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Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 07:16:39
October 27 2012 07:15 GMT
#26781
https://dotabuff.com/heroes/centaur-warrunner

Come on. DOTA2 aren't fun with how insanely good Centaur & Drow are right now.
Centaur worst matchup is vs the newly buffed Drow, even then Centaur has 54% winrate against his WORST matchup statistically.

Centaur needs fix
Mew Mew Pew Pew
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 27 2012 07:21 GMT
#26782
I remember the days when people raged uncontrollably about heroes like TA and AM that never had that high of a winrate ever...
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 27 2012 07:27 GMT
#26783
only 120k+ player base in beta, not statistically significant!!

He will get nerfed soon for sure, have fun instant pick him or go naix for now. I like to go undy to fck with him, so far 2:2 T_T
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
October 27 2012 07:34 GMT
#26784
On October 27 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
I don't understand why blizzard keeps changing hero models into uglier versions, dark seer is just wtf now.



On October 27 2012 16:05 FinestHour wrote:
I actually had to go and and find what you were talking about. His nose is missing, i mean seriously riot


Ok, is this some kind of a thing?
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 27 2012 07:38 GMT
#26785
I'm afraid to play pubs right now, because it'll be a stomp, either our way or theirs. I'm waiting for a patch that I hope will come real soon to dota2 because this is ridiculous. One of my favourite heroes, morph with a 30% winrate and centaur and drow both over 60%. Hell, cent is nearing 70%
You're not completely safe even in rd/sd, the modes I play on
Religion: Buckethead
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 27 2012 07:40 GMT
#26786
On October 27 2012 16:05 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 16:01 rabidch wrote:
On October 27 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
I don't understand why blizzard keeps changing hero models into uglier versions, dark seer is just wtf now.

he looks better. you just dont like looking at his nipples


I actually had to go and and find what you were talking about. His nose is missing, i mean seriously riot


HE'S MISSING THE NOSE HE NEVER HAD GUYS
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
October 27 2012 07:45 GMT
#26787
Centaur only loses if he is on my team.
Never make a hydralisk.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 27 2012 07:47 GMT
#26788
On October 27 2012 16:21 FinestHour wrote:
I remember the days when people raged uncontrollably about heroes like TA and AM that never had that high of a winrate ever...

TA is still dumb in Dota2. There's a difference between heroes that hardly get touched and heroes who just got a new shiny spell.

Around NDA lift (6.72), AM did have a ridiculous winrate and an absolute chore to play against.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 08:32:01
October 27 2012 08:30 GMT
#26789
On October 27 2012 16:34 ControlMonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
I don't understand why blizzard keeps changing hero models into uglier versions, dark seer is just wtf now.



Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 16:05 FinestHour wrote:
I actually had to go and and find what you were talking about. His nose is missing, i mean seriously riot


Ok, is this some kind of a thing?


yea

its going WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH OVA U
but mainly its just my flirting with rabid
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 27 2012 08:36 GMT
#26790
I think CW still holds a way higher win % than any of the other heroes in the game ever have. I mean at a certain point there's a "that hero is only good in pubs" like the old Treant when he had his 59% winrate (or our old friend Ursa) but CW at 67% is super pub friendly by design (high hp, easy to understand skills) and there's no reason to think he won't be a competitive pick. The ult in its current incarnation would be broken if given to any hero (hell, it would make more sense on SB).

After playing drow some I don't think trueshot aura is as bad as I thought it was going to be. If left on it just turns into a bad furion ult, half the people playing her don't even know to toggle it on. It takes some level of map awareness. I think the numbers on it need tweaked some but she's nowhere near the level of CW.
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
October 27 2012 08:42 GMT
#26791
On October 27 2012 17:30 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 16:34 ControlMonkey wrote:
On October 27 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
I don't understand why blizzard keeps changing hero models into uglier versions, dark seer is just wtf now.



On October 27 2012 16:05 FinestHour wrote:
I actually had to go and and find what you were talking about. His nose is missing, i mean seriously riot


Ok, is this some kind of a thing?


yea

its going WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH OVA U
but mainly its just my flirting with rabid

lewd
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
October 27 2012 08:43 GMT
#26792
I think the reason centaur is winning so hard right now is because no one knows how to play against him. Literally no one has played against his ult until now so I'm not surprised he's winning a lot. At least people knew how to play against the other heroes added into the pool since they were in wc3 DotA but this centaur is completely new.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 27 2012 08:48 GMT
#26793
What the fuck is about all those people whining about clockwerk?

And centaur is so bad now, we're nearing the point where only noobs will pick him, brace yourselves coz the hero is actually pretty hard to play
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 27 2012 08:49 GMT
#26794
On October 27 2012 17:48 Qbek wrote:
What the fuck is about all those people whining about clockwerk?

And centaur is so bad now, we're nearing the point where only noobs will pick him, brace yourselves coz the hero is actually pretty hard to play

"centaur warchief"
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 08:53:57
October 27 2012 08:50 GMT
#26795
On October 27 2012 17:43 Kishin2 wrote:
I think the reason centaur is winning so hard right now is because no one knows how to play against him. Literally no one has played against his ult until now so I'm not surprised he's winning a lot. At least people knew how to play against the other heroes added into the pool since they were in wc3 DotA but this centaur is completely new.

He is not a brand new hero. He is an old hero with a new ability that I will happily call broken. There is not much you can do against stampede, he can get you anywhere with it, even behind towers, thanks to the max movespeed without collision mechanic. It is on a relatively miniscule cooldown meaning he does not need to make choices of 'do I use it now to help kill this guy, or will I need it soon to get out of a tough spot?', he just has to press the button and it will be up in time later again. Someone mentioned to me that if pudge hooks someone and then stampede is activated, the someone will be close enough to interrupt the dismember that will come. The same will probably happen if enigma's blackhole does not catch centaur, the teammates will automatically stun him.

That is broken.

I was talking about a few ways to nerf it and I can either be by increasing the CD a huge amount (I'm talking blackhole kind of CD), or making it a localised aura instead of global. Someone suggested that it should only affect the Centaur without anyone else in the team but I feel having it affect teammates is still pretty cool, just within reason.
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 27 2012 08:53 GMT
#26796
Stampede is like a "I WIN" button, those have no place in dota. Eeven other big ultis like black hole or chronosphere have a decent chance of being a total fuck-up and they almost never have 100% efficiency (5 man black hole, 5 man chrono with no allies in it), while cent's ulti is on a very short cd, very low mana cost, and pretty damn hard to mess up. You don't even have to be there as cent to win a teamfight, just press your R button and it's done.
Religion: Buckethead
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 27 2012 08:56 GMT
#26797
On October 27 2012 17:49 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 17:48 Qbek wrote:
What the fuck is about all those people whining about clockwerk?

And centaur is so bad now, we're nearing the point where only noobs will pick him, brace yourselves coz the hero is actually pretty hard to play

"centaur warchief"

Don't call him CW FFS. Call him cent. He even is cheap atm
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 27 2012 08:57 GMT
#26798
On October 27 2012 17:42 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 17:30 FinestHour wrote:
On October 27 2012 16:34 ControlMonkey wrote:
On October 27 2012 15:58 FinestHour wrote:
I don't understand why blizzard keeps changing hero models into uglier versions, dark seer is just wtf now.



On October 27 2012 16:05 FinestHour wrote:
I actually had to go and and find what you were talking about. His nose is missing, i mean seriously riot


Ok, is this some kind of a thing?


yea

its going WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH OVA U
but mainly its just my flirting with rabid

lewd


Someone needs to make a TL community birthday thread for captain yomi the strongest, sexiest, slyest, and smartest captain of tldb there will ever be
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 27 2012 08:58 GMT
#26799
On October 27 2012 17:56 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 17:49 rabidch wrote:
On October 27 2012 17:48 Qbek wrote:
What the fuck is about all those people whining about clockwerk?

And centaur is so bad now, we're nearing the point where only noobs will pick him, brace yourselves coz the hero is actually pretty hard to play

"centaur warchief"

Don't call him CW FFS. Call him cent. He even is cheap atm

What's wrong with calling him CW? People don't get their panties twisted when people call skeleton king/sand king/terrorblade SK.
Moderator
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 27 2012 09:02 GMT
#26800
but nobody calls cent "cw"
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