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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 24 2012 23:42 GMT
#26321
It's too bad Ogre Magi and Centaur Warchief don't look like the neutral creeps anymore so you can't pull off those next level Ogre/Centaur ganks.

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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 24 2012 23:43 GMT
#26322
On October 25 2012 08:38 Rayeth wrote:
Dat new sniper is gonna be great in the pubs.

Also I can't wait to play Centaur. Some really interesting spells on that guy. Plus that new ult sounds redonkulous.


Tried centaur in dota1 today. He is truly a centaur WARCHIEF now, he was merely a centaur before the change rofl.

Protip: Necrobook is viable on centaur now :D
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
October 24 2012 23:45 GMT
#26323
On October 25 2012 08:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 08:26 Talron wrote:
Stampede incoming! This spell is so ridiculous. It's SotS-Tier.

#E: I really like his model. Thanks for posting the pics.
However comparing him and other newer models to older ones like Krobelus for example, let her appear really odd in terms of deatils and overall how "refined" the model is.

Valve have been reworking older models, adding better textures etc. The most recent one changed was Antimage, just 2 weeks ago I believe.

I know that, I was hoping that the other heroes, which are not AM, get an overhaul as well. Because AM is a **** hero you know. Nobody likes him. Not even the people, who play him regularly.

But this "warrunner" ... come on Valve! A simple "Centaur warrior" would've not even sound that odd.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 24 2012 23:58 GMT
#26324
Is return supposed to work on towers? kind of cool that it does.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 25 2012 00:01 GMT
#26325
On October 25 2012 08:58 PassiveAce wrote:
Is return supposed to work on towers? kind of cool that it does.

The skill description on PlayDota says "enemy units and structures", so yes.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 25 2012 00:05 GMT
#26326
sorry i just looked at the ingame tooltip while playing, just excited about the new hero i guess ;p
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 00:12:07
October 25 2012 00:11 GMT
#26327
About CM, you can also play veno, you miss the long range initiation but you have a very long duration slow + a half slow (your autoattacks), free vision everywhere, and a good ulti to stay relevant with levels.
Also, in pubs you'll often find an empty lane or jungle and you can easily farm with wards (just make sure to not plant your wards in the spawn box), so even if you're in 5th position you can easily get a mek and a forcestaff if you're a little map aware. I really like him a lot better than CM (and if you manage to get an agha you really do a LOT of damage)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 25 2012 00:14 GMT
#26328
On October 25 2012 09:11 MrCon wrote:
About CM, you can also play veno, you miss the long range initiation but you have a very long duration slow + a half slow (your autoattacks), free vision everywhere, and a good ulti to stay relevant with levels.
Also, in pubs you'll often find an empty lane or jungle and you can easily farm with wards (just make sure to not plant your wards in the spawn box), so even if you're in 5th position you can easily get a mek and a forcestaff if you're a little map aware. I really like him a lot better than CM (and if you manage to get an agha you really do a LOT of damage)

Not really a good comparison at all given that Veno has 450 auto range and much less burst damage nuking.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 00:28:21
October 25 2012 00:23 GMT
#26329
Yeah I know but I just feel he's more fun to play than CM with which you'll often end up as just food. I know it wasn't really the subject tho =)

I just read Centaur wiki, and I remembered the return ability as just
Returning Base Damage: 16/18/20/22
For me return was just that, and it was nice already to clear creepwaves for instance.

And I see now he got 50% of his str added? I guess I missed it in the patchnotes, or perhaps it was like that for a long time and was changed after I stopped following dota, but this is insane :o That will return easily 75 damage, and on a farmed Centaur could be about 125, this is insane.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 00:31:17
October 25 2012 00:31 GMT
#26330
Boots are 450 now FUCK YEAH
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 00:35:27
October 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#26331
On October 25 2012 09:23 MrCon wrote:
Yeah I know but I just feel he's more fun to play than CM with which you'll often end up as just food. I know it wasn't really the subject tho =)

I just read Centaur wiki, and I remembered the return ability as just
Returning Base Damage: 16/18/20/22
For me return was just that, and it was nice already to clear creepwaves for instance.

And I see now he got 50% of his str added? I guess I missed it in the patchnotes, or perhaps it was like that for a long time and was changed after I stopped following dota, but this is insane :o That will return easily 75 damage, and on a farmed Centaur could be about 125, this is insane.

The +str damage part is fairly old. So you probably just missed it.

#E: Thought it was just one year. seems to be more.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 00:37:30
October 25 2012 00:34 GMT
#26332
On October 25 2012 09:23 MrCon wrote:
Yeah I know but I just feel he's more fun to play than CM with which you'll often end up as just food. I know it wasn't really the subject tho =)

I just read Centaur wiki, and I remembered the return ability as just
Returning Base Damage: 16/18/20/22
For me return was just that, and it was nice already to clear creepwaves for instance.

And I see now he got 50% of his str added? I guess I missed it in the patchnotes, or perhaps it was like that for a long time and was changed after I stopped following dota, but this is insane :o That will return easily 75 damage, and on a farmed Centaur could be about 125, this is insane.


It used to do 12.5/25/37.5/50 before the str bonus, the base amount was lowered to make up for the change. It used to be 10 + an increasing % of your str, up to 50%, and it still got buffed.

On October 25 2012 09:33 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 09:23 MrCon wrote:
Yeah I know but I just feel he's more fun to play than CM with which you'll often end up as just food. I know it wasn't really the subject tho =)

I just read Centaur wiki, and I remembered the return ability as just
Returning Base Damage: 16/18/20/22
For me return was just that, and it was nice already to clear creepwaves for instance.

And I see now he got 50% of his str added? I guess I missed it in the patchnotes, or perhaps it was like that for a long time and was changed after I stopped following dota, but this is insane :o That will return easily 75 damage, and on a farmed Centaur could be about 125, this is insane.

The +str damage part is fairly old. So you probably just missed it.

#E: Thought it was just one year. seems to be more.


It was on 6.68, I think that's over 2 years ago.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 25 2012 00:38 GMT
#26333
How is cent played? A bit like brew in that he gets supported in lane then goes fighting? Solo mid (double edge AoE for clearing creeps :D)? Seems like he needs farm since he hurts himself and wants his huge str gain, so can't see him as solo offlane or support - am I wrong?

Tranq -->blink --> pipe --> heart?
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 25 2012 00:43 GMT
#26334
On October 25 2012 09:38 LAN-f34r wrote:
How is cent played? A bit like brew in that he gets supported in lane then goes fighting? Solo mid (double edge AoE for clearing creeps :D)? Seems like he needs farm since he hurts himself and wants his huge str gain, so can't see him as solo offlane or support - am I wrong?

Tranq -->blink --> pipe --> heart?

yeah something like that, tranq or phase to blink/jango, not sure how his new ultimate feels though
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 25 2012 00:47 GMT
#26335
On October 25 2012 08:42 TheYango wrote:
It's too bad Ogre Magi and Centaur Warchief don't look like the neutral creeps anymore so you can't pull off those next level Ogre/Centaur ganks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-sSDOMmvM


funfact, in dota .76 u can type -sleep and your heroes will perform the sleep animation with the zzzzzzz, which is a huge buff to those high level ganks
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 25 2012 01:08 GMT
#26336
Someone posted an amazing centaur game some hundred pages back. He went safe lane solo, I don't remember his boots I think tranquils then drums blink and I don't remember his late game items.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 25 2012 01:16 GMT
#26337
On October 25 2012 09:47 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 08:42 TheYango wrote:
It's too bad Ogre Magi and Centaur Warchief don't look like the neutral creeps anymore so you can't pull off those next level Ogre/Centaur ganks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-sSDOMmvM


funfact, in dota .76 u can type -sleep and your heroes will perform the sleep animation with the zzzzzzz, which is a huge buff to those high level ganks

LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 01:23:35
October 25 2012 01:20 GMT
#26338
See that Skeleton King's just bad because Centaur already leveled Return and he didn't notice the aura.

Gotta save those Return skill points, then level them all up at once when it's too late for him to get away.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 25 2012 01:25 GMT
#26339
Tested out new lion.... the mana drain range is pretty much INSANE. You can pretty much lane control with this shit now.... null talisman is now cheaper than wraith band which is weird. Sniper changes was not too significant imo since his first skill was always shit, the range buff means little to nothing. The 40% mini stun however means a LOT. Dont know how to test Witch doctor ulti but if it bounce like witch doctor stun, it could be a game(competitive wise) breaking buff.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 25 2012 01:27 GMT
#26340
Come watch me vs merlini and TL bumblebee on merlini stream right now
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