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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 25 2012 05:09 Kipsate wrote: Have 1 for each letter of the alphabet obviously. And the numbers 1-9. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
Just a couple of complaints. Hugely one sided games seem to be all I've been in. I also dislike that there's no way to surrender, and there is that 24 hr penalty thing. So you're stuck for 20 minutes in an unwinnable game. Maybe that's just the nature of the genre, but I'm not interested in wasting 20 minutes when there's no hope in hell of a win. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 25 2012 05:47 Zorkmid wrote: Dota is cool, but the matchmaker seems to suck ass. Just a couple of complaints. Hugely one sided games seem to be all I've been in. I also dislike that there's no way to surrender, and there is that 24 hr penalty thing. So you're stuck for 20 minutes in an unwinnable game. Maybe that's just the nature of the genre, but I'm not interested in wasting 20 minutes when there's no hope in hell of a win. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452 here you go, dont come here with that sort of problem really :-/ | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
On October 25 2012 05:47 Zorkmid wrote: The matchmaking gets better after several games. I'd say around 50-60% of my games are at least somewhat close now.Dota is cool, but the matchmaker seems to suck ass. Just a couple of complaints. Hugely one sided games seem to be all I've been in. I also dislike that there's no way to surrender, and there is that 24 hr penalty thing. So you're stuck for 20 minutes in an unwinnable game. Maybe that's just the nature of the genre, but I'm not interested in wasting 20 minutes when there's no hope in hell of a win. If you want a surrender option, you should look into league of legends. It's a sort of similar game but has a surrender option, but the game mechanics as well as the existence of a surrender option actually makes games much more one-sided because people give up sooner than in dota. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On October 25 2012 05:50 Attakijing wrote: The matchmaking gets better after several games. I'd say around 50-60% of my games are at least somewhat close now. If you want a surrender option, you should look into league of legends. It's a sort of similar game but has a surrender option, but the game mechanics as well as the existence of a surrender option actually makes games much more one-sided because people give up sooner than in dota. I've played League. People don't tend to give up even when the option is there, so even if they stuck it into Dota2 I don't think that it would help much with the complaint I have. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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hooahah
3752 Posts
horrible attack animation and damage utterly useless ult the global mana passive is nice but a waste of a skill slot imo, and doesn't seem to transition well into the lategame which leaves her with a semi-good nuke and a crappy stun she's also frail as hell and really slow. Windrunner just seems better in every possible way. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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NaUj
United States47 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 25 2012 06:32 hooahah wrote: can someone explain to me what the hell is good about Crystal Maiden? I like playing Support but she just seems god awful horrible attack animation and damage utterly useless ult the global mana passive is nice but a waste of a skill slot imo, and doesn't seem to transition well into the lategame which leaves her with a semi-good nuke and a crappy stun she's also frail as hell and really slow. Windrunner just seems better in every possible way. You seem to have no idea what a support is. So I think you should first find that out before you start making judgements on heroes. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 25 2012 06:40 NaUj wrote: CM is one of the strongest early game supports. She falls off very fast in the mid/late game, and is situationally strong in late game as BKBs make her useless. Her nuke has a huge range, and does more damage at it levels, which is good for harassing or bursting someone down. It also is a huge aoe slow. Her Freeze is just good all around for disables that scales decently. It's also good for taking out neutrals in the mid game when you need to catch up on farm. So all in all, she's very strong early, does decent mid game but is fragile all game. So with her, you have to make yourself useful and impactful in the early game and try to get as much of a lead as you can and ride on it. Pretty much this. One thing I'll add is that she has 600 attack range, which, while much more common than it used to be, is still nonetheless a valuable quality for a support to have, and one which a lot of other common supports don't have. Her teamfight power is mediocre, but in terms of the things you'd want a support to accomplish early game, she has most of them (probably only lacking pushing power). Decent damage nukes and reliable disables means that she is a powerful roaming ganker. Long attack range, long-range nukes, and mana regeneration aura means she's strong on lane. Frostbite's increased duration against creeps means she can farm jungle very quickly to level up if none of these things are practical. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
that means I'm free to ignore her forever as for the role of the support, as far as I know: buy courier, wards, counterwarding, carry the smoke/dust/whatever feed your carries as much as possible (this means no last hitting, saving them when possible, setting up kills, if possible letting them get the kills) try to die as little as possible help in teamfights obviously stacking neutrals, pulling am I missing something? edit: as for her being a really good early game ganker, I can see why but isn't she just...well, too slow? with wards/courier I have no money for boots/TP without last hitting as for jungling, how does this fare with mana? because god knows her regular attack does close to 0 damage and constantly nuking sounds like a huge drain on the mana | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 25 2012 07:03 hooahah wrote: so basically her nuke is really good, neat that means I'm free to ignore her forever as for the role of the support, as far as I know: buy courier, wards, counterwarding, carry the smoke/dust/whatever feed your carries as much as possible (this means no last hitting, saving them when possible, setting up kills, if possible letting them get the kills) try to die as little as possible help in teamfights obviously am I missing something? edit: as for her being a really good early game ganker, I can see why but isn't she just...well, too slow? with wards/courier I have no money for boots/TP without last hitting no last hitting is overgeneralizing. The pull camp farm is almost always given to the support so they can pick up some levels/gold, although in a trilane that would be given to #4 instead of CM who is more often played at the #5. CM is strong at roaming early game. Make your money off kill gold by setting up ganks. In the last patch CM Morph was an incredibly strong mid lane. Anyone who can burst can easily get kills off the CM spells. | ||
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