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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 24 2012 22:09 GMT
#26301
CM is an early game lane killer. If she doesn't contribute early to destroy lanes or gank then she's pretty worthless like you said. Her whole point is to insure that your team has an advantage headed into the midgame that you can ride out like a wave. If she fails, gets far behind etc., she's going to be fodder.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 22:14:30
October 24 2012 22:11 GMT
#26302
On October 25 2012 07:09 crms wrote:
CM is an early game lane killer. If she doesn't contribute early to destroy lanes or gank then she's pretty worthless like you said. Her whole point is to insure that your team has an advantage headed into the midgame that you can ride out like a wave. If she fails, gets far behind etc., she's going to be fodder.


well, this explains why I hated playing as her then, I was playing her wrong. Thanks for explaining.

On October 25 2012 07:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 07:03 hooahah wrote:
so basically her nuke is really good, neat

that means I'm free to ignore her forever

as for the role of the support, as far as I know:

buy courier, wards, counterwarding, carry the smoke/dust/whatever
feed your carries as much as possible (this means no last hitting, saving them when possible, setting up kills, if possible letting them get the kills)
try to die as little as possible
help in teamfights obviously

am I missing something?

edit: as for her being a really good early game ganker, I can see why but isn't she just...well, too slow? with wards/courier I have no money for boots/TP without last hitting


no last hitting is overgeneralizing. The pull camp farm is almost always given to the support so they can pick up some levels/gold, although in a trilane that would be given to #4 instead of CM who is more often played at the #5. CM is strong at roaming early game. Make your money off kill gold by setting up ganks. In the last patch CM Morph was an incredibly strong mid lane. Anyone who can burst can easily get kills off the CM spells.


did not know that about pulling the creep camp, good to know. Also good to know about her good synergy with burst, though I doubt pubs will have that much teamwork
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 22:13:05
October 24 2012 22:11 GMT
#26303
On October 25 2012 07:03 hooahah wrote:
edit: as for her being a really good early game ganker, I can see why but isn't she just...well, too slow? with wards/courier I have no money for boots/TP without last hitting

She's pretty much the only support that can initiate ganks from outside of Smoke of Deceit break range with a slow/disable that can catch targets reliably at 1025+ range. Every other non-ult support disable at similar range entails some level of unreliability e.g. Shackleshot needing to piggyback off a creep to latch at that range, Fissure animation being long, and therefore avoidable (or at least, will once they fix Jakiro's Ice Path targeting to not follow the target when you target-click them).
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 24 2012 22:24 GMT
#26304
Merlini streaming.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 22:45:00
October 24 2012 22:44 GMT
#26305
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=59732

- Added Centaur
- Implemented 6.76b gameplay changes

UI
- Fixed XP going the other way if you're leveled up with a command.
- Fixed scoreboard not updating properly after a hero swap
- Added party invite ignore options to the party invite dialog and settings screen
- Visual updates to spell button states


VISUALS & AUDIO
- Fixed several "missing lane" line bugs for Puck, Mirana, Meepo, Lina, Keeper, Shadow Demon, and Windrunner.
- Fixed spell button sounds triggering on mouse clicks only and not hotkey press
- Fixed certain effects on workshop items that were incorrect or missing

Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
October 24 2012 22:46 GMT
#26306
Awwwww no medusa
Dota 3hard5me
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
October 24 2012 22:47 GMT
#26307
On October 25 2012 07:44 NB wrote:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=59732

Show nested quote +
- Added Centaur
- Implemented 6.76b gameplay changes

UI
- Fixed XP going the other way if you're leveled up with a command.
- Fixed scoreboard not updating properly after a hero swap
- Added party invite ignore options to the party invite dialog and settings screen
- Visual updates to spell button states


VISUALS & AUDIO
- Fixed several "missing lane" line bugs for Puck, Mirana, Meepo, Lina, Keeper, Shadow Demon, and Windrunner.
- Fixed spell button sounds triggering on mouse clicks only and not hotkey press
- Fixed certain effects on workshop items that were incorrect or missing



omfg blizz where is my dusa ;_;

Can't wait till we get to play bumper cars with Centaur and Rubick :D
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 24 2012 22:59 GMT
#26308
XP bar fix, looks like meepo won't have part of the mini map missing now.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 24 2012 23:05 GMT
#26309
Is centaur in CM?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 24 2012 23:07 GMT
#26310
No, unless the patch specifically said otherwise.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
October 24 2012 23:11 GMT
#26311
On October 25 2012 08:05 Nevuk wrote:
Is centaur in CM?


You mean in warcraft 3 dota?. Yes, he is.
Haee
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
522 Posts
October 24 2012 23:15 GMT
#26312
I don't understand like is there some secret unknown love for Medusa that people are craving for all of a sudden? I've never known people loved the hero that much before....
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 24 2012 23:16 GMT
#26313
Medusa is the ultimate rice rice rice hero.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 24 2012 23:26 GMT
#26314
Centaur in game models.
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is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 23:29:02
October 24 2012 23:26 GMT
#26315
Stampede incoming! This spell is so ridiculous. It's SotS-Tier.

#E: I really like his model. Thanks for posting the pics.
However comparing him and other newer models to older ones like Krobelus for example, let her appear really odd in terms of deatils and overall how "refined" the model is.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
October 24 2012 23:27 GMT
#26316
Can't wait to play the new sniper.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
October 24 2012 23:28 GMT
#26317
war... runner...

._.
Hates Fun🤔
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
October 24 2012 23:31 GMT
#26318
He got a sweet axe.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 24 2012 23:32 GMT
#26319
On October 25 2012 08:26 Talron wrote:
Stampede incoming! This spell is so ridiculous. It's SotS-Tier.

#E: I really like his model. Thanks for posting the pics.
However comparing him and other newer models to older ones like Krobelus for example, let her appear really odd in terms of deatils and overall how "refined" the model is.

Valve have been reworking older models, adding better textures etc. The most recent one changed was Antimage, just 2 weeks ago I believe.
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Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
October 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#26320
Dat new sniper is gonna be great in the pubs.

Also I can't wait to play Centaur. Some really interesting spells on that guy. Plus that new ult sounds redonkulous.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
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