General Discussion - Page 1299

On October 22 2012 03:09 Erasme wrote:
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462907
best guide imo

On October 22 2012 02:34 EatMySpell wrote:
What kind of bullshit graphs is that? No goddamn way HoN is over DotA2/LoL in Poland.

On October 22 2012 05:53 SilverStar wrote:
G-1 League has ingame ticket now: http://www.dota2.com/store/itemdetails/91338596

On October 22 2012 07:56 NB wrote:
that price is totally out of my range... jesus, thats $8 dollars @_@... I mean if they have items drop like TI2 may be it might be worth it -_-... but no ~_~

On October 22 2012 07:58 SilverStar wrote:

Over 60 games and 50k prize pool and lan finals. Worth it for me @_@

On October 22 2012 07:53 Mataza wrote:
And the last game of the Starladder 3 final is why Midas is a fucking bad item.

Buying midas gives up so much momentum. With a weaker early game you get less kill/gank potential, less map control, meaning you actually can farm less with a midas because the other team can just run up and kill your team.
Why did Empire get Midas on Doom and Furion. It makes no sense. Furi could have got the Mek 10 minutes earlier, Doom could have actually mattered in any teamfight ever if he had bought real items instead of Midas.

Sorry, I´m a bit pent up about Midas because in my terribad Guide all the comments are "herp derp get a midas on naix to so rokcz".
I think it would have been better if I had written a guide about the concept of momentum, but I don´t really feel I am able to do the importance of the concept justice with my subpar writing skills.

Basically in a serious DotA game there is continual pressure, and the team that loses the ability to be threatening will get hilariously outplayed like Empire.
Ars-Art got a fucking Sange&Yasha on Bane and Dendi built a Manta Style on Pudge, at one time fountainhooking his own illusion.
Midas is the "I lose button", I tell you.

On October 22 2012 08:04 Firebolt145 wrote:

When two people on a team get it against a team riding on mid game strength/push with Pudge/Bat/Chen/Bane/CK, it becomes silly. If you're untouched in the jungle, left to your own devices with 4 other strong midgame heroes in your team against a team that is unlikely to attempt to exert midgame dominance, midas becomes an excellent option. It's a situational item, just like any other.

On October 22 2012 08:20 Mataza wrote:

I just don´t see such a specific situation.
Your team is strong enough to make up for you buying a midas. That is possible.
But how likely is it that getting a proper item instead of Midas would not dramatically increase your chance to win?
A Midas itself adds 30 IAS. In a vacuum, it needs 13-18(being generous here) minutes to pay for itself.

People play 4 protect 1 and the game is often decided by how fast the 1 can get his core up. During TI2, it was often AM that would farm for 25-30 minutes before getting his core up.
Midas, at its very best, puts your item progression on a halt for 10 minutes. If you force your team to play 4v5 for 10 minutes and then only show up with the exact same items(+30 IAS) you would have had without midas, that´s a pretty terrible situation.

Tell me a single situation were Midas allows you to win a game, but no other item would allow you to win it more convincingly. I just don´t see it. People don´t play that passive anymore.

On October 22 2012 08:35 Talron wrote:
So I got this extra Dota2 gift [?] now and I can simply send this to someone who doesn't have Dota2 yet?