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On October 21 2012 14:16 TheYango wrote:I don't know why Icefrog keeps buffing this hero in ways that do more to make him even more obnoxious in 1v1s than to actually help him in real games.
Tbh this change is better mid game than in lane.
On October 21 2012 15:35 SilverStar wrote:
I'm confused with the Clockwork changes.
Basically, his pre-patch ags ult is now his normal ult, and ags just reduces cd (even more).
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On October 21 2012 18:27 cheeseosaur wrote:
Question. How much damage is needed to cancel a healing salve? I know the salve will work for level 1 venomous gale.. but is there any other exceptions? Same question for urn charges.
Damage taken less than 20 will not cancel Healing Salve.
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physical damage always cancels salve and hp removal(urn,wave of terror) will never cancel salve
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
Wow how did you have the focus for one huge 165 minute game, I'm impressed.
Regarding the patch, I expected more done to Lanaya from what v1lat was talking about. The optimal build for Sniper is now quite obvious, 1 point in headshot, max shrapnel + take aim. Jakiro's Ice Patch nerfed slightly which was expected, it was ridiculously strong before. I don't know what Chen's changes are meant to achieve, I don't think people will ever consider getting Penitence earlier because Test of Faith's secondary ability and Holy Persuasion are obvious priorities.
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The optimal build for Sniper is now quite obvious, 1 point in headshot, max shrapnel + take aim
You mean the build that already was the optimal build?
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Or you could just EG.Fear it and get 1 level take aim -> max headshot and stat. Damn good imo.
The chen change is just slight buff in compensate with the recent nerf he received so he could scale into late game a bit better, nothing worth mention.
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
Lots of people still skipped shrapnel, me included, even if it probably wasn't the best build. Now with headshot being static % chance and static stun duration, it is REALLY obvious.
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On October 21 2012 18:24 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 18:22 pap0t wrote:
Gyro without DPS items like buriza mkb is a sad Gyro gyro had 3 divines at one point in the game
LOL... 3 divines and still lose  ( that makes it even more crazy
About the healing salves cancellation. Not 100% sure but it got be 20+ damage.
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Clockwerk
- Hookshot now pulls Clockwerk to allies instead of getting blocked by them
aw yiss.
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Boots of Speed
- Price decreased from 500 to 450
- Move speed bonus from 55 to 50
On one hand this make's my Lone Druid jungle happy (Get boots and Vlad's faster); and on the other having bear even slower pre-rabid will be annoying for early game (I like to go full Bear/Synergy/+1 True Form before putting any points in Rabid)
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This will actually help your bear more than hinder it,as everyone's slower by 5, and rabid is percentage based, so the bear will be faster than before, compared to heroes
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Netherlands45349 Posts
I think the boots are fine, everyone and their mother with boots and drums running at an incredible speed was kinda meh.
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On October 21 2012 21:24 ReignSupreme. wrote:Show nested quote +Boots of Speed
- Price decreased from 500 to 450
- Move speed bonus from 55 to 50 On one hand this make's my Lone Druid jungle happy (Get boots and Vlad's faster); and on the other having bear even slower pre-rabid will be annoying for early game (I like to go full Bear/Synergy/+1 True Form before putting any points in Rabid)
Catching up to heroes will probably stay the same, as long as there aren't any MS increase auras involved like track, EH or drums.
I really like the overall boots ms nerf.
Other things that I really like:
Krobelus
- Exorcism base ghost count increased from 4/10/18 to 4/12/21
That's 27 ghosts in total now with witchcraft. I wonder how often IceFrog has to buff this hero, until players realize how strong she's been all the time.
Lina
- Laguna Blade cooldown rescaled from 90/70/50 to 70/60/50
If she isn't a top pick now in EU scene as well I don't know. She was frequently picked in the chinese scene already, this makes her even stronger. This might be a bit exaggerated, but we might even see her solo mid.
Witch Doctor
- Death Ward Aghanim's upgrade changed from 3 target split attack to 5 target bounce
- Death Ward multi attack bounce AoE increased from 550 to 650
- Death Ward cooldown decreased from 90 to 80
Best ASU in the game.
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:50 Talron wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 21:24 ReignSupreme. wrote:Boots of Speed
- Price decreased from 500 to 450
- Move speed bonus from 55 to 50 On one hand this make's my Lone Druid jungle happy (Get boots and Vlad's faster); and on the other having bear even slower pre-rabid will be annoying for early game (I like to go full Bear/Synergy/+1 True Form before putting any points in Rabid) Catching up to heroes will probably stay the same, as long as there aren't any MS increase auras involved like track, EH or drums. I really like the overall boots ms nerf. Other things that I really like: That's 27 ghosts in total now with witchcraft. I wonder how often IceFrog has to buff this hero, until players realize how strong she's been all the time. If she isn't a top pick now in EU scene as well I don't know. She was frequently picked in the chinese scene already, this makes her even stronger. This might be a bit exaggerated, but we might even see her solo mid. Show nested quote + Witch Doctor
- Death Ward Aghanim's upgrade changed from 3 target split attack to 5 target bounce
- Death Ward multi attack bounce AoE increased from 550 to 650
- Death Ward cooldown decreased from 90 to 80 Best ASU in the game.
That's the beauty of this game. There are so many heroes that we look at and think 'why the hell isn't this hero a top pick?'
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
I just got the extra copies for DotA2 to share, are those 2 invites or just one ?
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What are the Best Heroes to use for Moving up from Normal MMR? I pick Support then our carries build weird ass items , I pick Carry , then our Supports are more interested in Stealing my farm and going for kills...So Frustrating.
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Are the games less retarded in higher ratings or same bs ?
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On October 21 2012 22:07 EatMySpell wrote:
I just got the extra copies for DotA2 to share, are those 2 invites or just one ?
It's only one invite in your inventory, even tho the email says "copies"
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On October 21 2012 23:14 pyro19 wrote:
What are the Best Heroes to use for Moving up from Normal MMR?
The best hero would a friend on skype.
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On October 21 2012 23:14 pyro19 wrote:
What are the Best Heroes to use for Moving up from Normal MMR? I pick Support then our carries build weird ass items , I pick Carry , then our Supports are more interested in Stealing my farm and going for kills...So Frustrating.
Storm, TA, akasha etc... If you feel like you are in a lower pool than you should, then it will be easy to rape with these heroes and you'll have a better chance of winning games.
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