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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
October 20 2012 18:08 GMT
#25821
On October 21 2012 02:32 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 02:26 KillerSOS wrote:
On October 21 2012 01:12 NB wrote:
kids, when you try to make a point in this thread, make sure you have a fucking math degree.... its all badass around here and you most likely will get crushed -_-...

So my question is: if lorthar works with jinada, does it also work with Gyro 3rd skill?


Who cares about the marginal amount of extra damage it does when its a flat single item. Deso applies on every hit and 1 shotting supports is not what you want to do with BH. I heard track is his best skill.

Also BH hardly gains from AS, thereby wasting an entire stat.

I can't believe people are actually trying to argue that Lothars is a good item on BH.


people in this thread aren't necessarily trying to play optimally in pub games, I'd say that Lothar's on BH is extremely funny when I use it in pubs. (flaming is just the icing, especially when you start owning with it)


Thats funny cause I get a different reaction when I see a BH going lothars. Im like "shit guys, start carrying dust and hold hands."
Skol
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
October 20 2012 18:24 GMT
#25822
Do you guys understand that shikyo can utilize the lothars bh build? That alone makes it top tier. I await the day we see it in a competitive game.
High Risk Low Reward
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 20 2012 18:33 GMT
#25823
Dust is pointless if you die in oneshot

sentries everywhere.
WriterXiao8~~
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
October 20 2012 18:37 GMT
#25824
On October 21 2012 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
Dust is pointless if you die in oneshot

sentries everywhere.

Can't you just eat two supports and then buy a gem? Poorest, saddest, supports ever on the enemy team. Gotta fight dirty.
you gotta dance
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
October 20 2012 18:41 GMT
#25825
On October 21 2012 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
Dust is pointless if you die in oneshot

sentries everywhere.


Tell me about it
the last time I went lothar's bounty, this was the map:

[image loading]

It still works though, all the haters should try it. It's actually the most fun I've had playing dota in a while :D


Also hi killersos/richard hag! I totally knew your name rang a bell from somewhere! I'm ilia on dota ! Fun running into you guys a few times yesterday
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 20 2012 18:42 GMT
#25826
On October 21 2012 02:26 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 01:12 NB wrote:
kids, when you try to make a point in this thread, make sure you have a fucking math degree.... its all badass around here and you most likely will get crushed -_-...

So my question is: if lorthar works with jinada, does it also work with Gyro 3rd skill?


Who cares about the marginal amount of extra damage it does when its a flat single item. Deso applies on every hit and 1 shotting supports is not what you want to do with BH. I heard track is his best skill.


Because it's not like you're able to track them before killing them...
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 20 2012 18:44 GMT
#25827
Dem multicasts in that game
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 20 2012 18:53 GMT
#25828
Last time I went lothar BH, they just bought a gem and played 5 men doto and we lost terribly. On the other hand we had one disconnect after picks and one boot first wisp.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 19:00:41
October 20 2012 19:00 GMT
#25829
On October 21 2012 03:42 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 02:26 KillerSOS wrote:
On October 21 2012 01:12 NB wrote:
kids, when you try to make a point in this thread, make sure you have a fucking math degree.... its all badass around here and you most likely will get crushed -_-...

So my question is: if lorthar works with jinada, does it also work with Gyro 3rd skill?


Who cares about the marginal amount of extra damage it does when its a flat single item. Deso applies on every hit and 1 shotting supports is not what you want to do with BH. I heard track is his best skill.


Because it's not like you're able to track them before killing them...


Yeah when I get oneshotting capability, I usually windwalk up to them, track, lothars->1shot->windwalk away.
Or just track from a distance, lothars in, ww out. Whatever works.

Lothar+ww stacking only adds 120dmg anyway, it's not that good imo
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 19:08:42
October 20 2012 19:08 GMT
#25830
On October 21 2012 03:41 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
Dust is pointless if you die in oneshot

sentries everywhere.


Tell me about it
the last time I went lothar's bounty, this was the map:

[image loading]

It still works though, all the haters should try it. It's actually the most fun I've had playing dota in a while :D


Also hi killersos/richard hag! I totally knew your name rang a bell from somewhere! I'm ilia on dota ! Fun running into you guys a few times yesterday


Finest is on here as well, he plays on a team with me and Richard.

I tried Lothars BH in a match. Played solo suicide and didn't manage to get lothars until about 16, even with some track assists. While I was 2 shotting people around then it fell off for a good bit midgame until I got my deso. There were def some kills I could have wrapped up if I went drums before getting a lothars.

Basically it is a fun pub troll build but the build doesn't capitalize on the reasons teams pick BH.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 20 2012 19:24 GMT
#25831
On October 21 2012 03:41 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2012 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
Dust is pointless if you die in oneshot

sentries everywhere.


Tell me about it
the last time I went lothar's bounty, this was the map:

[image loading]

It still works though, all the haters should try it. It's actually the most fun I've had playing dota in a while :D


Also hi killersos/richard hag! I totally knew your name rang a bell from somewhere! I'm ilia on dota ! Fun running into you guys a few times yesterday

That is actually really funny :D
OFCORPSE
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden355 Posts
October 20 2012 19:51 GMT
#25832
I just got a steam gift of dota 2, first one I've gotten and I've had the game a long time.

Already gave it to a friend, but you may want to check your inventory if you still have friends waiting for an invite!
Liquor saved me from sports.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 20 2012 20:12 GMT
#25833
--- Nuked ---
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 20 2012 20:16 GMT
#25834
On October 21 2012 05:12 Dattish wrote:
Wonder if the massive amounts of keys being given away and the announcement of Perfect World means that release is close.

I wouldn't expect a release before TI3.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 20:20:43
October 20 2012 20:20 GMT
#25835
I would expect a release before TI3. Probably not for a few months (guessing 6) but realistically they're adding lan, porting heroes, team matchmaking, and customizations. Team matchmaking seems the closest of the first 3 goals. I almost expect LAN before another hero at this point. Customizations are just hey, hats.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 20 2012 20:22 GMT
#25836
They will never release lan before the game is released
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 20:31:31
October 20 2012 20:29 GMT
#25837
I heard being math major makes you a total badass, so I check at which values deso is actually "better" for a single jinada hit than Lothars.
At 10 armor roughly ~350, at 20 armor ~550, at 30 armor it´s a respectable ~750
Credits ofc to yoshi, as his post saved me the effort to actually think about this.
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 21 2012 01:00 Yoshi- wrote:
Deso should never pass lothars http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot (1-( 0.06 * (x-6) ) / (1 + 0.06 * (x-6))) * (60* 2.25) = (1-( 0.06 * (x) ) / (1 + 0.06 * (x))) * (30 + 150) * 2.25 0<x<1000

That is only for positive armor values though

+ Show Spoiler [just replace the 10 in the equation fo…] +
Linky



I wonder about the people in this thread, in which bracket do your replays usually appear?
I checked once and had about 30% of all my replays in high, rest normal, which makes me feel quite bad. I didn´t play Dota for 6-8 years before that but still.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 20 2012 21:10 GMT
#25838
For those who have fallen asleep. Starladder Empire vs GD Studio is live now.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 20 2012 21:12 GMT
#25839
Don't feel bad. Look at the dates. I can still find games of mine in normal if I extend the range enough even though I've long since left normal behind
Religion: Buckethead
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2012 21:22 GMT
#25840
On October 21 2012 05:22 Yoshi- wrote:
They will never release lan before the game is released

Not even for a tournament-only version?
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