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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 20 2012 08:32 GMT
#25761
I recall him saying in an interview that he prefers playing WR to zeus now.

And yeah I remember him primarily for zeus + jungle BM + and puck, though he did feed a lot of games with puck :D
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
October 20 2012 08:34 GMT
#25762
I am interested in trying out DotA2, I just have one (perhaps completely stupid, but for me important) question:

I tried out LoL, but having to move with right click, attack with richt click, freaks me out. You can't even map it to left mouse.

So: Can you use left mouse clicking to move, attack and so on (a bit like diablo series, starcraft and if I remember correctly the original DotA)??
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 20 2012 08:37 GMT
#25763
? in starcraft you attack and move with right click, same as war3 and therefor dota1.

To answer your question im pretty sure you can bind those actions to left click, but im not sure if you can do it in the client options or if you have to use the console.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#25764
On October 20 2012 17:34 testthewest wrote:
I am interested in trying out DotA2, I just have one (perhaps completely stupid, but for me important) question:

I tried out LoL, but having to move with right click, attack with richt click, freaks me out. You can't even map it to left mouse.

So: Can you use left mouse clicking to move, attack and so on (a bit like diablo series, starcraft and if I remember correctly the original DotA)??

Huh, left click move was in red alert 1, not in starcraft :|
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 20 2012 08:50 GMT
#25765
Left click move is so weird :/
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
October 20 2012 08:58 GMT
#25766
Left click movement has been used in almost all CNC games (or is it really all of them?). My guilty pleasure is playing Generals Zero Hour and it always feels weird when switching between the two.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
CptHandsome
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark95 Posts
October 20 2012 09:18 GMT
#25767
On October 20 2012 12:53 frucisky wrote:
Just played a couple of games and I got flamed for a few things.

1. Shadowblade BH - tbh I was two shotting the enemy jugg and one shotting the enemy rubick. My team considered me the "carry", Trouble is I went shadowblade desolator for max burst damage but I will die instantly if I actly try to get into a 1v1 fight :S

2. Crystal Maiden - I maxed frostbite and nova and only got 1 point in aura at level 2. Thing is, there was an enemy AM and anyway, I find that w the advent of soul ring and mana boots, the aura is kinda useless.

3. Shadowblade Bara - Trust me, this is awesome. It helps to add 150 to the initation charge stun and burst. And once your done charging into enemy lines to get the kill the shadowblade helps me to get away. Even if the enemy has dust, Baras aura + 20% shadowblade movespeed means its easy to run away. Plus the increased AS = more greater bash. Also the invis during charge helps to charge across lanes unnoticed.

Do I deserve to be flamed for any of the above builds??


If you were not trolling, you need to be flamed for shadow blade BH(and if you were, I guess you need to be flamed as well)

1) You don't need additional invis on BH - a lot of the cost of shadowblade goes towards the invis. Insted making a pure dmg item increasing your damage from jinada would be the way to go. BH isn't in serious games considered a carry but picked solely for his ultimate which nets his team quite a good sum.

2) I would say you did the right thing for the wrong reasons. Whether or not there is an antimage or the team has mana regen, your build should mainly rely on the TYPES of heroes on your team. If you have a team of str(very low int, hence very low mana regen) the extra set mana regeneration would benefit them IMMENSELY, whereas if you're just playing with a carry +3 other int heroes... then one level is probably enough. Usually it is enough to get one level and focus a bit more on combat utility like you did.

3) Barathrum really isnt a super serious hero.... go shadowblade for all I care ^^
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2012 09:21 GMT
#25768
On October 20 2012 18:18 CptHandsome wrote:
1) You don't need additional invis on BH - a lot of the cost of shadowblade goes towards the invis. Insted making a pure dmg item increasing your damage from jinada would be the way to go. BH isn't in serious games considered a carry but picked solely for his ultimate which nets his team quite a good sum.

lol

You do realize that Lothar's is the most cost-effective item to increase Jinada damage in the game, right?
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 20 2012 09:24 GMT
#25769
I'm more and more of the opinion that shadowblade is slowly becoming a legit item on bh
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Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
October 20 2012 09:25 GMT
#25770
On October 20 2012 12:53 frucisky wrote:


3. Shadowblade Bara - Trust me, this is awesome. It helps to add 150 to the initation charge stun and burst. And once your done charging into enemy lines to get the kill the shadowblade helps me to get away. Even if the enemy has dust, Baras aura + 20% shadowblade movespeed means its easy to run away. Plus the increased AS = more greater bash. Also the invis during charge helps to charge across lanes unnoticed.


I thought that % base movement speed buffs didn't stack.
So Empowering Haste and Shadow blade wouldn't stack or is it just me that is wrong?
"Yeah buddy"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2012 09:27 GMT
#25771
On October 20 2012 18:25 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 12:53 frucisky wrote:


3. Shadowblade Bara - Trust me, this is awesome. It helps to add 150 to the initation charge stun and burst. And once your done charging into enemy lines to get the kill the shadowblade helps me to get away. Even if the enemy has dust, Baras aura + 20% shadowblade movespeed means its easy to run away. Plus the increased AS = more greater bash. Also the invis during charge helps to charge across lanes unnoticed.


I thought that % base movement speed buffs didn't stack.
So Empowering Haste and Shadow blade wouldn't stack or is it just me that is wrong?

Everything stacks, additively but practically speaking, Bara's easily going to hit the MS cap without Lothar's.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 20 2012 09:29 GMT
#25772
On October 20 2012 18:25 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 12:53 frucisky wrote:


3. Shadowblade Bara - Trust me, this is awesome. It helps to add 150 to the initation charge stun and burst. And once your done charging into enemy lines to get the kill the shadowblade helps me to get away. Even if the enemy has dust, Baras aura + 20% shadowblade movespeed means its easy to run away. Plus the increased AS = more greater bash. Also the invis during charge helps to charge across lanes unnoticed.


I thought that % base movement speed buffs didn't stack.
So Empowering Haste and Shadow blade wouldn't stack or is it just me that is wrong?

MS buffs stack like crazy. As long as they are from different sources they work
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
October 20 2012 09:44 GMT
#25773
On October 20 2012 18:21 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:18 CptHandsome wrote:
1) You don't need additional invis on BH - a lot of the cost of shadowblade goes towards the invis. Insted making a pure dmg item increasing your damage from jinada would be the way to go. BH isn't in serious games considered a carry but picked solely for his ultimate which nets his team quite a good sum.

lol

You do realize that Lothar's is the most cost-effective item to increase Jinada damage in the game, right?

Desolator is only 1.1k more expensive and has a similar buildup in terms of difficulty since 6.75, with 30 extra damage and the -6 armor applied BEFORE the attack means your jinada will do similar damage, but it also helps the team to focus down heroes/buildings.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 20 2012 09:46 GMT
#25774
uh lothars has 120 damage over deso
and 1.1k is like 30% lol
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 20 2012 09:49 GMT
#25775
AS long as you are tracking all kills and your team isn't failing completely, getting both on BH should be super easy. And actually let you one shot supports, which is bad coz you want a moment to track them
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 20 2012 09:54 GMT
#25776
But how does lothar interact with ww? can you lothar while in ww to get bonus damage from both?
If it does, if you have a buriza also and those are basically 4 damage increasing effects with jinada. Put a deso on and you'd easily crit more than mortred
Religion: Buckethead
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2012 10:01 GMT
#25777
On October 20 2012 18:54 Incze wrote:
But how does lothar interact with ww? can you lothar while in ww to get bonus damage from both?
If it does, if you have a buriza also and those are basically 4 damage increasing effects with jinada. Put a deso on and you'd easily crit more than mortred

Crits don't stack. One can proc when the other doesn't but since Jinada is a 100% crit when it's up, there's zero reason to get Buriza.

Wind Walk and Lothar's have no interaction. The difference is that Lothar's 150 bonus damage is multiplied by crits while Wind Walk's isn't, which is what makes Lothar's BH good.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 20 2012 10:16 GMT
#25778
Just check out this guide for all the lothars BH information: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369089
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 20 2012 10:25 GMT
#25779
I heard that you can activate both at the same time and during the fade ttime they don't cancel (in the same way you can invis from bottle and take a sip as well).
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#25780
You get extra burst that way but you'll use up both your invis so unless the target is alone you'll probably die
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