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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 06:09:06
October 16 2012 06:02 GMT
#25221
Honestly, I just use random gold to buy the things that, if it were a "serious game" someone else should be buying anyway but won't because it's a pub. Courier, Flying Courier, Wards as a solo hard laner, Smoke of Deceit, etc.

It's just especially nice as a hard laner because I don't get screwed if the support decides to buy Gauntlets instead of wards for me.

I'll support no random gold the day I can guarantee that I won't get screwed by a support that refuses to buy courier/wards. Which will never happen.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 16 2012 06:13 GMT
#25222
On October 16 2012 15:02 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, I just use random gold to buy the things that, if it were a "serious game" someone else should be buying anyway but won't because it's a pub. Courier, Flying Courier, Wards as a solo hard laner, Smoke of Deceit, etc.

It's just especially nice as a hard laner because I don't get screwed if the support decides to buy Gauntlets instead of wards for me.

I'll support no random gold the day I can guarantee that I won't get screwed by a support that refuses to buy courier/wards. Which will never happen.

you can alway go play hon
free courier 100g wards~
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
October 16 2012 06:18 GMT
#25223
Is there a way to read up on stuff to get better at picking heroes, or even to get better as a captain?
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 16 2012 06:20 GMT
#25224
On October 16 2012 15:13 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 15:02 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, I just use random gold to buy the things that, if it were a "serious game" someone else should be buying anyway but won't because it's a pub. Courier, Flying Courier, Wards as a solo hard laner, Smoke of Deceit, etc.

It's just especially nice as a hard laner because I don't get screwed if the support decides to buy Gauntlets instead of wards for me.

I'll support no random gold the day I can guarantee that I won't get screwed by a support that refuses to buy courier/wards. Which will never happen.

you can alway go play hon
free courier 100g wards~

See why would I do that when HoN has no random gold and I could just get those things with random gold?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 16 2012 06:25 GMT
#25225
On October 16 2012 15:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 15:13 Dead9 wrote:
On October 16 2012 15:02 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, I just use random gold to buy the things that, if it were a "serious game" someone else should be buying anyway but won't because it's a pub. Courier, Flying Courier, Wards as a solo hard laner, Smoke of Deceit, etc.

It's just especially nice as a hard laner because I don't get screwed if the support decides to buy Gauntlets instead of wards for me.

I'll support no random gold the day I can guarantee that I won't get screwed by a support that refuses to buy courier/wards. Which will never happen.

you can alway go play hon
free courier 100g wards~

See why would I do that when HoN has no random gold and I could just get those things with random gold?

ilu yangers
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 06:29:54
October 16 2012 06:29 GMT
#25226
On October 16 2012 15:18 heishe wrote:
Is there a way to read up on stuff to get better at picking heroes, or even to get better as a captain?

Learn how every hero works. Like what spells they have, or what position they play(carry,support,etc). I am not sure if there is a definitive guide out there, but imo the best way of learning is doing.
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
October 16 2012 06:49 GMT
#25227
On October 16 2012 15:29 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 15:18 heishe wrote:
Is there a way to read up on stuff to get better at picking heroes, or even to get better as a captain?

Learn how every hero works. Like what spells they have, or what position they play(carry,support,etc). I am not sure if there is a definitive guide out there, but imo the best way of learning is doing.

I found the best way to improve in every area of dota was to play with people who are better then me. They called the strats, plays etc (and I tried not to feed).
Road to 6sange
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 16 2012 07:14 GMT
#25228
HoN did that and i lost interest to that game very quickly after that. I just found that I picked tryhard heroes all day and my hero pool somehow became 'static'. Don't tell me that I could still random when there is no bonus gold given, everyone still want to win the game in the end of day so why the hell would i risk on randoming bad hero for the team. That decision is one of the biggest proofs that S2 dev are bunch of monkeys, way to kill the fun of the game.

It is damn fun to play different hero in different games and more so you need to be creative enough to make the shitty line up works sometimes (i remember my mek+treads+arcane on SF not long ago because of some BH last picked). And it feels good when you knew that you can play many different heroes at a decent level too. personally I really don't like seeing long time players who only play limited amount of heroes and refuse to try out/learn other heroes, they are just like those picky eaters irl, such a waste if you missed some of the best dished out there. hmmmm, i am hungry now.

is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 07:25:21
October 16 2012 07:21 GMT
#25229
On October 16 2012 15:02 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, I just use random gold to buy the things that, if it were a "serious game" someone else should be buying anyway but won't because it's a pub. Courier, Flying Courier, Wards as a solo hard laner, Smoke of Deceit, etc.

It's just especially nice as a hard laner because I don't get screwed if the support decides to buy Gauntlets instead of wards for me.

I'll support no random gold the day I can guarantee that I won't get screwed by a support that refuses to buy courier/wards. Which will never happen.

If there's only 1 set of 250 gold, then that's fine, but the way I see it, there're always at least couple people on each team playing random, and most of the time people use those gold to do some shenanigan stuffs, such as Jugg first boot with regen and gg branch, sf with almost 550 hp and +12 damage level 1, enigma/darkseer with full soul ring,.....

It's nice if people are actually noob, go random to actually learn the game and don't have a clue what to do, but that seems to not be the case anymore. Most of the time you are on the back foot, and it's their game to lose the lane. Free gold is meant to assist people to learn the game, not for those i-can-play-every-heroes-so-i-go-random-but-hey-got-free-gold-too type of people.

I also think HoN's free courier, no random gold is better if your reason to go random is to get money to buy those.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 16 2012 07:37 GMT
#25230
Damn it! Singsings thread and the LGD.int are totally stealing my show . Can someone please make a pity submission for my contest so I don't feel so bad about it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375753
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 16 2012 08:13 GMT
#25231
On October 16 2012 16:21 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 15:02 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, I just use random gold to buy the things that, if it were a "serious game" someone else should be buying anyway but won't because it's a pub. Courier, Flying Courier, Wards as a solo hard laner, Smoke of Deceit, etc.

It's just especially nice as a hard laner because I don't get screwed if the support decides to buy Gauntlets instead of wards for me.

I'll support no random gold the day I can guarantee that I won't get screwed by a support that refuses to buy courier/wards. Which will never happen.

If there's only 1 set of 250 gold, then that's fine, but the way I see it, there're always at least couple people on each team playing random, and most of the time people use those gold to do some shenanigan stuffs, such as Jugg first boot with regen and gg branch, sf with almost 550 hp and +12 damage level 1, enigma/darkseer with full soul ring,.....

It's nice if people are actually noob, go random to actually learn the game and don't have a clue what to do, but that seems to not be the case anymore. Most of the time you are on the back foot, and it's their game to lose the lane. Free gold is meant to assist people to learn the game, not for those i-can-play-every-heroes-so-i-go-random-but-hey-got-free-gold-too type of people.

I also think HoN's free courier, no random gold is better if your reason to go random is to get money to buy those.

most of the time you can overcome the slight laning disadvantage pretty easily by picking a decent lineup
like boots first jugg gets harassed out of lane really easily if you have double ranged, and if he spins on you can just autoattack him to death if you're positioned properly and he doesn't have a shield. +12 damage is only +4 more than normal for sf, and full soul ring enigma/ds isn't even good lol
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 16 2012 08:18 GMT
#25232
People buy stupid shit in pubs regardless of if they have random gold or not.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 16 2012 08:26 GMT
#25233
Maelk's tweet


Alright, alright... D K S K B B M
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
October 16 2012 08:26 GMT
#25234
On October 16 2012 17:18 Unleashing wrote:
People buy stupid shit in pubs regardless of if they have random gold or not.


Meh I do it sometimes. Can be fun.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 08:53:38
October 16 2012 08:53 GMT
#25235
From the g1-league thread:

On October 16 2012 17:47 ldDOTA wrote:
Just a head's up, tonight's matches will actually be streamed out over fengyunzhibo, the chinese platform that G-1 League is planning to use for the main event. You'll be able to find the stream here!

If you aren't able to watch the games live, don't worry, I will be making local recordings and uploading them to youtube, so you can at least catch up the action via VODs.

Please give us as much feedback as possible regarding the stream quality: how long it takes to load, how spiky it is, what the picture quality is like, and any other good or bad feedback you have as to how your viewing experience is. Also, when posting your feedback, please let us know where you are located geographically and include some info about your internet connection!

Go help the boys!
Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=374959&currentpage=23
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 09:03:46
October 16 2012 09:01 GMT
#25236
what are the games being played tonight? i thought EG already qualified last night? so tonight is 3rd and 2nd place?

edit: nvm got it, not sure if its worth to stay up only for a bo3....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#25237
Only 3rd place decider no need for a final game
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 09:03:41
October 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#25238
On October 16 2012 18:01 NB wrote:
what are the games being played tonight? i thought EG already qualified last night? so tonight is 3rd and 2nd place?


Flash and EG qualified yesterday

Flash > For Love
EG > SQL

For Love and SQL will play off for the last spot today.
DrSchneehase
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany15 Posts
October 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#25239
On October 16 2012 15:18 heishe wrote:
Is there a way to read up on stuff to get better at picking heroes, or even to get better as a captain?


I only know about this guide:
Drafting in DotA -cm

It might be a little outdated, but if you just want to start playing CM/drafting as a captain, you should take a look into it.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 16 2012 09:19 GMT
#25240
Jesus Christ this game is frustrating. Sometimes it takes between 5-15 minutes to start a game, that is if everyone accepts plus nobody fails to load, apparently that is a lot to ask for. Granted, I haven't played a lot yet, but today has been nothing but frustration, like I said, 5-15 minutes to find a game, then you play until one team gets a clear advantage and the other team basically gives up/somebody leaves. If you're on the losing team, you either wait for the opposing team to kill you, which can take anywhere between 10-30 minutes, or you go AFK. No matter what you do, it is a frustrating and time consuming ordeal to play several games in a row.
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