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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 16 2012 09:22 GMT
#25241
Funny, i've had the direclty opposite experience lately.
Finding games super fast and only one out of 9 have been one-sided.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
October 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#25242
That sounds nice, wish I could enjoy the game as well.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 16 2012 10:20 GMT
#25243
never play dota under time pressure. DotA is like a good cup of tea/coffee, you need to drink it slowly to be able to smell all the smell, taste each drop of the drink to it fullest meaning. Rushing is nothing more than horrible toxicated tap water. Play during the weekend if you have a busy job, weekdays it would be best to get more sleep on yourself.

while queue, i often just tab out and multitask other things. Staring into the game screen is nothing more than wasting your life :-/... May i recommend /r/gonewild?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
October 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#25244
^ LMFAO!
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 11:58:18
October 16 2012 11:58 GMT
#25245
I usually chat on msn and skype, browse /d2g/ and check the news while waiting if i have to wait.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 12:47:20
October 16 2012 12:33 GMT
#25246
So I've been testing some more razes with SF and it seems to me that there's different speeds with which SF casts razes. It's not just slow/fast.
Here's an example: + Show Spoiler +

Example of the fastest I could do:+ Show Spoiler +


One thing I couldn't replicate is the very LAST raze(in the first video), it's cast nearly instantly. SF's hands animation still begins but the raze is cast super super fast, haven't seen it cast so fast ever. Maybe it was lag? Anyone seen anything like it before?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#25247
On October 16 2012 15:18 heishe wrote:
Is there a way to read up on stuff to get better at picking heroes, or even to get better as a captain?

Read Wagamama's guide in the strategy forum !
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
October 16 2012 13:06 GMT
#25248
iceiceice streaming meepo games with insane micro
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 16 2012 13:33 GMT
#25249
After reading both 14553's and wagamama's guide to CM I'm still hopeless. I've no idea how they can make such accurate calls and predictions. They even know from the first few picks what the lanes will be and what other heroes they'll pick.
I think I'll just keep playing rd and sd until very high, which should come soon enough if I keep my winrate and then just ask my team what to pick. Hopefully some day I'll meet puppey on ladder, that guy's an absolute genius at cm
Religion: Buckethead
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
October 16 2012 13:50 GMT
#25250
On October 16 2012 22:33 Incze wrote:
After reading both 14553's and wagamama's guide to CM I'm still hopeless. I've no idea how they can make such accurate calls and predictions. They even know from the first few picks what the lanes will be and what other heroes they'll pick.
I think I'll just keep playing rd and sd until very high, which should come soon enough if I keep my winrate and then just ask my team what to pick. Hopefully some day I'll meet puppey on ladder, that guy's an absolute genius at cm

Most teams will pick 1 hero that's suited for mid (invoker, TA, rubick), if there's 2 then it's usually the one who isn't really effective in other lanes.
The suicide lanes are usually solo with pretty obvious candidates (tide, brood, BH), occasionally the lane is run with 2 people but it's more common to run a trilane safe lane or duo safe + jungler.
Junglers are pretty obvious: Chen, enchantress, enigma, furion..
Then on the safe lane, it's usually the hard carry and the hard support (who's usually ranged to help harass). Sometimes there's 2 supports here to facilitate pulling and to double up on the harass.

With more experience, you can guess the strats of your opponents pretty well. The first 3 picks + 2 bans involve the more popular heroes, with the second ban stage most important. I'm not entirely sure of the current picking strategies after 6.75, but there's still trends. Do the 3 picks of the opponent lack push/counterpush? A hard carry? Hard supports? Junglers? Then ban accordingly in order to screw with them as best as possible.
=Þ
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 13:55:36
October 16 2012 13:55 GMT
#25251
I just love all those subtle things that pro captains seem to understand very well. While watching TI2 I saw that most of the time teams would start wandering around the map before the creeps spawned and the interesting thing was that almost every time the 2 teams met some place, either top or bottom and clashed at level 1 if they saw fit or ran away. There were even some lvl 1 smoke ganks which are always exciting. It's really something at the next level compared to most people playing this game

grammar
Religion: Buckethead
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 16 2012 13:55 GMT
#25252
On October 16 2012 22:33 Incze wrote:
After reading both 14553's and wagamama's guide to CM I'm still hopeless. I've no idea how they can make such accurate calls and predictions. They even know from the first few picks what the lanes will be and what other heroes they'll pick.
I think I'll just keep playing rd and sd until very high, which should come soon enough if I keep my winrate and then just ask my team what to pick. Hopefully some day I'll meet puppey on ladder, that guy's an absolute genius at cm


It all comes down to experience. You learn from playing and watching better players. Chance are if you do see one of them on ladder they won't respond, because they get a fanboy every game who won't shut up and play.
if you can believe you can concieve
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
October 16 2012 14:27 GMT
#25253
Here's a random thought that has nothing to do with what people are currently discussing:

I was just recently playing pudge listening to some awesome metal, and the thought occurred to me: What do other people listen to while playing dota, and does it vary with heroes? What genres work best for you?

Like I said, I always listen to metal when playing pudge (Pantera, dreamtheatre, system of a down, Rage Against the Machine all work pretty well, but there is something stupidly satisfying with hooking people to "let the bodies hit the floor").

For other heroes, though, I usually like to play to rap with a decent beat (dunno why, for whatever reason it works for me).

What music do you guys like to listen to when killing other heroes?
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 16 2012 14:30 GMT
#25254
Kpop
Jpop
Blue Stahli
Queen

Doesn't really matter.
WriterXiao8~~
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 16 2012 14:30 GMT
#25255
I like listening to Iron Maiden when playing. They have everything and I love heavy metal.
Pudge is especially good with "hooks in you" although they're not really related
Religion: Buckethead
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
October 16 2012 14:41 GMT
#25256
--- Nuked ---
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 16 2012 14:45 GMT
#25257
I generally listen to my playlist that is limited to a very personal choice from those bands: Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Machine Head, Judas Priest and Metallica.

But every once in a while I have this song on a loop and trip out while being 100% sober
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 15:17:00
October 16 2012 15:16 GMT
#25258
maybe I'm imagining it, but whenever I play with metal/game songs I play worse.

The opposite is, thankfully, also true - Frank Sinatra's "My Way" is absolutely amazing

edit: ^ I fully support playing with Infected Mushroom music
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
October 16 2012 15:52 GMT
#25259
I love this game so much. Playing it, watching it, reading about it, chatting to people about it...For months now I have not touched SC2 at all and haven't watched a tourney since MLG with Flash/JD co. And I don't miss it at all. This game is so much more fun. I feel like no game can be same to other, because there are 10 players with 10 different heroes with something like 30-40 abilities.

Anyone having a similar experience with DoTA here?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
October 16 2012 15:56 GMT
#25260
You have to listen to Dota by Basshunter when playing this game. Such a classic Dota song.
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