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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 19 2012 01:11 GMT
#21121
STOP IT PLEASE
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:16:25
September 19 2012 01:15 GMT
#21122
On September 19 2012 09:56 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:50 Judicator wrote:
His Charge needs to be reworked to something like it starts off at max then drops off at some rate rather than the other way around. His Greater Bash could be re-worked to actually apply some minor ms debuff (like Slardar's Crush) so opposing heroes just can't Drum and vroom vroom away if Strike is down.

Also does anyone know if he still works the same way he did in Dota 1, namely his damage on the first hit coming out of Charge? The de facto build on him for a long time was to rush BoT for the insane damage coming out of Charge.

so... spirit breaker doesn't work anything like you think he does anymore..



his charge is a flat speed it doesn't ramp up at all anymore it also auto bashes anyone nearby him as he's charging (like roar pushes aside in the path inbetween). caps out at 650 speed (from start)

his greater bash gives him a 15% movespeed buff every time it procs for 3 seconds..


Guys. EG used SB against fnatic and WON so this shit is legit. I am disappointed that there are no graphs, how else am i supposed to follow the conversation.
High Risk Low Reward
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 19 2012 01:17 GMT
#21123
On September 19 2012 10:15 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:56 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 19 2012 09:50 Judicator wrote:
His Charge needs to be reworked to something like it starts off at max then drops off at some rate rather than the other way around. His Greater Bash could be re-worked to actually apply some minor ms debuff (like Slardar's Crush) so opposing heroes just can't Drum and vroom vroom away if Strike is down.

Also does anyone know if he still works the same way he did in Dota 1, namely his damage on the first hit coming out of Charge? The de facto build on him for a long time was to rush BoT for the insane damage coming out of Charge.

so... spirit breaker doesn't work anything like you think he does anymore..



his charge is a flat speed it doesn't ramp up at all anymore it also auto bashes anyone nearby him as he's charging (like roar pushes aside in the path inbetween). caps out at 650 speed (from start)

his greater bash gives him a 15% movespeed buff every time it procs for 3 seconds..


Guys. EG used SB against fnatic and WON so this shit is legit. I am disappointed that there are no graphs, how else am i supposed to follow the conversation.

What does that have to do with anything you quoted?
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
September 19 2012 01:20 GMT
#21124
I think they should make his ult a normal ability and make greater bash an ultimate skill with a cooldown like jinada instead of % proc. Nether strike always seemed like a disappointing ability for an ultimate to me.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 01:24:07
September 19 2012 01:21 GMT
#21125
+ Show Spoiler +


Some actually real impressive team fights in that game against a very potent wombo combo (naga, ds, tide, lesh and aa). In spoiler.

Anyway after watching that game is made me think of abaddon as a hard laner with his skill set (especially with the non stop talking about bara the great offlaner...)
He can pretty much keep himself alive with his heal and negate damage with his shieldy thing which in turn does damage. Maybe not as strong as DS on the hard lane but still pretty good.
Any thoughts?

Actually just googled his skill set. Can he cast heal on himself? And his shield at low level has a poor cd =/. Guess that screws that offlane up. Regardless I could see him as a cool support.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
September 19 2012 01:24 GMT
#21126
On September 19 2012 10:21 Benjef wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4MyesYYeE&feature=plcp


Some actually real impressive team fights in that game against a very potent wombo combo (naga, ds, tide, lesh and aa). In spoiler.

Anyway after watching that game is made me think of abaddon as a hard laner with his skill set (especially with the non stop talking about bara the great offlaner...)
He can pretty much keep himself alive with his heal and negate damage with his shieldy thing which in turn does damage. Maybe not as strong as DS on the hard lane but still pretty good.
Any thoughts?

Actually just googled his skill set. Can he cast heal on himself? And his shield at low level has a poor cd =/. Guess that screws that offlane up. Regardless I could see him as a cool support.


why not just run omni?
High Risk Low Reward
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 19 2012 01:26 GMT
#21127
no he can't heal himself
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 19 2012 01:27 GMT
#21128
On September 19 2012 10:15 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 09:56 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 19 2012 09:50 Judicator wrote:
His Charge needs to be reworked to something like it starts off at max then drops off at some rate rather than the other way around. His Greater Bash could be re-worked to actually apply some minor ms debuff (like Slardar's Crush) so opposing heroes just can't Drum and vroom vroom away if Strike is down.

Also does anyone know if he still works the same way he did in Dota 1, namely his damage on the first hit coming out of Charge? The de facto build on him for a long time was to rush BoT for the insane damage coming out of Charge.

so... spirit breaker doesn't work anything like you think he does anymore..



his charge is a flat speed it doesn't ramp up at all anymore it also auto bashes anyone nearby him as he's charging (like roar pushes aside in the path inbetween). caps out at 650 speed (from start)

his greater bash gives him a 15% movespeed buff every time it procs for 3 seconds..


Guys. EG used SB against fnatic and WON so this shit is legit. I am disappointed that there are no graphs, how else am i supposed to follow the conversation.

+ Show Spoiler [is that good enough?] +
[image loading] I think my point is proven
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 19 2012 01:28 GMT
#21129
On September 19 2012 10:24 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:21 Benjef wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4MyesYYeE&feature=plcp


Some actually real impressive team fights in that game against a very potent wombo combo (naga, ds, tide, lesh and aa). In spoiler.

Anyway after watching that game is made me think of abaddon as a hard laner with his skill set (especially with the non stop talking about bara the great offlaner...)
He can pretty much keep himself alive with his heal and negate damage with his shieldy thing which in turn does damage. Maybe not as strong as DS on the hard lane but still pretty good.
Any thoughts?

Actually just googled his skill set. Can he cast heal on himself? And his shield at low level has a poor cd =/. Guess that screws that offlane up. Regardless I could see him as a cool support.


why not just run omni?

Yeh after learning his skill set properly omni would be the better choice. Would be nice if he could heal himself =/. Well that screws that plan up !
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 19 2012 01:39 GMT
#21130
omni cant really last hit safely tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 19 2012 01:42 GMT
#21131
Theorycrafting Abaddon is pretty pointless, as I'm pretty sure Icefrog is gonna remake the hero before he gets ported to DotA 2.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 19 2012 01:44 GMT
#21132
On September 19 2012 10:42 TheYango wrote:
Theorycrafting Abaddon is pretty pointless, as I'm pretty sure Icefrog is gonna remake the hero before he gets ported to DotA 2.

Isn't that implying we'll be having 6.75 pretty soon? Unless they take like half a year to finish the game -.- How can Valve be so slow, anyway...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 19 2012 01:46 GMT
#21133
? It isn't valve, it's icefrog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 19 2012 01:53 GMT
#21134
On September 19 2012 10:46 Erasme wrote:
? It isn't valve, it's icefrog

Hmm he takes that long thinking about how heroes should look? o_O As they have all their animation speeds, skills and stats ready to go.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#21135
Pretty sure icefrog said he was waiting till after TI2 to release .75 so it can't be too much longer.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 19 2012 02:03 GMT
#21136
On September 19 2012 10:53 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:46 Erasme wrote:
? It isn't valve, it's icefrog

Hmm he takes that long thinking about how heroes should look? o_O As they have all their animation speeds, skills and stats ready to go.

maybe that's what make dota a balanced game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 19 2012 02:14 GMT
#21137
On September 19 2012 11:03 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:53 Shikyo wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:46 Erasme wrote:
? It isn't valve, it's icefrog

Hmm he takes that long thinking about how heroes should look? o_O As they have all their animation speeds, skills and stats ready to go.

maybe that's what make dota a balanced game

That has nothing to do with that sigh ._.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#21138
On September 19 2012 11:03 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 10:53 Shikyo wrote:
On September 19 2012 10:46 Erasme wrote:
? It isn't valve, it's icefrog

Hmm he takes that long thinking about how heroes should look? o_O As they have all their animation speeds, skills and stats ready to go.

maybe that's what make dota a balanced game


you subtle sneaky man you see what you tryin to do
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 19 2012 02:30 GMT
#21139
Abaddon was always my favorite melee support though. I really hope they leave his shield/death coil untouched. He could possibly use a remake in the sense that his ult can be absurd and his passive just didn't make sense with his skill set.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#21140
TC, phoenix, pit and abba all are in the remake waiting list. Personally i just wish that they release magnus, pit and tc sooner, while for the rest, i dont care much. May be slark too. ohohoho. hoho.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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