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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:43 TheYango wrote: I'm curious why TC is still on the remake list, seeing as the hero's proven to be quite reasonable. pretty sure it's that TCs wasn't functioning the way icefrog envisioned so he's remaking. | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
every pub i play and he gets picked, he owns the shit out of everyone. he just rdm appears out of nowhere because his charge goes through terrain and thats pretty freaking op if you ask me lol | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:03 Terranlover wrote: whats so bad about bara? every pub i play and he gets picked, he owns the shit out of everyone. he just rdm appears out of nowhere because his charge goes through terrain and thats pretty freaking op if you ask me lol You know the charge gives a debuff within a certain range to the target that is being charged. If you are paying attention to the debuffs, you will have plenty of time to just tp to a safe location if you chose to. | ||
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YODA_
593 Posts
I present to you.....14-0 necrolyte rape. + Show Spoiler + Randomed necro first, call mid, because mid necro is pretty decent. Team picks...as you can see, a bunch of 1/2s. I say screw them, i called mid, I'm going mid, don't pick such crappy lane heroes next time when I call mid right off the bat, before you even pick. Go mid...rape.....more rape. Game ends. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wKahD.jpg) Ok.....I feel better now. Laugh at me, call me n00b, whatever, that was the most hilarious game I have played yet. <3 Dota 2. | ||
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Fullback
Argentina170 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:46 YODA_ wrote: Maybe this isn't the place for this, but as someone who doesn't get that many great carry or support games, I just had the LOL game of my entire dota/Hon/Dota 2 life, as sad as that may be. I've had more kills/assists/gpm with carries, but not like this. I present to you.....14-0 necrolyte rape. + Show Spoiler + Randomed necro first, call mid, because mid necro is pretty decent. Team picks...as you can see, a bunch of 1/2s. I say screw them, i called mid, I'm going mid, don't pick such crappy lane heroes next time when I call mid right off the bat, before you even pick. Go mid...rape.....more rape. Game ends. Ok.....I feel better now. Laugh at me, call me n00b, whatever, that was the most hilarious game I have played yet. <3 Dota 2. Actually, necrolyte was commonly picked as a 2/3rd position semi-carry with some anti-carry potential (assuming the other team was running a 4-1 lineup). Err.. so yeah.. he can carry well. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
you may now pat yourself on the back ill see you at ti3 | ||
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
on the topic of morphling, why wasn't AA used to coutner him verse the chinese? AA was never banned and fuctions well in a dual lane with another stun. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On September 19 2012 13:02 flamewheel wrote: i don't see rikimaru in there though he's in another 25 man dungeon | ||
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YODA_
593 Posts
On September 19 2012 12:48 Fullback wrote: Actually, necrolyte was commonly picked as a 2/3rd position semi-carry with some anti-carry potential (assuming the other team was running a 4-1 lineup). Err.. so yeah.. he can carry well. Hmmm....I have literally never seen him played like that, in dota or in his HoN version. He can be a sick mid vs some heroes though. Vs lesh in this game for instance.....yeah, not even close. That nuke spammage is painful stuff around level 3. | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On September 19 2012 11:57 PrinceXizor wrote: pretty sure it's that TCs wasn't functioning the way icefrog envisioned so he's remaking. But he is functioning and he is awesome, what does it matter what IF envisioned? Nothing like the feeling when you manage to catch a whole team in his combo, watching the ground crumble beneath their feet. The only thing about him is the somewhat poor scaling of his ult | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 19 2012 13:07 YODA_ wrote: Hmmm....I have literally never seen him played like that, in dota or in his HoN version. He can be a sick mid vs some heroes though. Vs lesh in this game for instance.....yeah, not even close. He's lost popularity recently, but typically he was picked as a 2nd/3rd position hero that builds defensive team items. DK picked him a few times for Burning in some games at the end of 2011/early 2012 in DotA 1. On September 19 2012 13:09 Appendix wrote: But he is functioning and he is awesome, what does it matter what IF envisioned? Nothing like the feeling when you manage to catch a whole team in his combo, watching the ground crumble beneath their feet. The only thing about him is the somewhat poor scaling of his ult I would hardly call a skill that does damage based on % max HP as having "poor scaling". And Natural Order is a pretty damn powerful skill lategame. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On September 19 2012 13:07 YODA_ wrote: Hmmm....I have literally never seen him played like that, in dota or in his HoN version. He can be a sick mid vs some heroes though. Vs lesh in this game for instance.....yeah, not even close. That nuke spammage is painful stuff around level 3. Old Necrolyte (before the Vanguard nerf) was employed a lot by Chinese teams. Basi, Treads, Vanguard/Mekansm, Hood -> Pipe, and then Hex/Shiva's makes him a pretty tough bastard to kill. Was pretty good at killing Alchemist back when Alchemist was top tier ban/pick (I'm not joking about this either Alchemist used to be a badass) since Heartstopper Aura negates a large chunk of Alchemist's HP regeneration and once you get Alchemist down to half life you just kill him with Scythe. | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
On September 19 2012 13:15 flamewheel wrote: Old Necrolyte (before the Vanguard nerf) was employed a lot by Chinese teams. Basi, Treads, Vanguard/Mekansm, Hood -> Pipe, and then Hex/Shiva's makes him a pretty tough bastard to kill. Was pretty good at killing Alchemist back when Alchemist was top tier ban/pick (I'm not joking about this either Alchemist used to be a badass) since Heartstopper Aura negates a large chunk of Alchemist's HP regeneration and once you get Alchemist down to half life you just kill him with Scythe. nah, necro used to be a fucking badass hero in dota 1 and now he is pretty lame  I want my purpleish attacks animations again. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 19 2012 13:17 flamewheel wrote: Also he doesn't scream "AUGHHHHH" when releasing pulses anymore. #1 thing I miss about DotA 1 Necrolyte On September 19 2012 12:59 SirMilford wrote: on the topic of morphling, why wasn't AA used to coutner him verse the chinese? AA was never banned and fuctions well in a dual lane with another stun. Was discussed during the International. Essentially, hard to fit in a 3-1-1 metagame. Very level dependent and levels too slowly as part of trilanes (and has poor farming ability so has a hard time catching up midgame after a rough early game). Can't handle mid very well against many of the common mid picks (Invoker, Rubick, QoP, etc.). Can't farm solo hard lane. So overall hard to fit him anywhere when games are dominated by 3-1-1 play. Carries a certain usefulness against Morphling and Chen, but overall still awkward to pick if you can't lane him somewhere where he can comfortably get levels. He's much more comfortable in 2-1-2 setups, and was much more common in Chinese DotA 1 in the earlier half of the year when 2-1-2 setups were more common (playing well with Sand King or Earthshaker as a hard lane duo). | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On September 19 2012 13:09 Appendix wrote: But he is functioning and he is awesome, what does it matter what IF envisioned? Nothing like the feeling when you manage to catch a whole team in his combo, watching the ground crumble beneath their feet. The only thing about him is the somewhat poor scaling of his ult I would hardly call a skill that does damage based on % max HP as having "poor scaling". And Natural Order is a pretty damn powerful skill lategame.[/QUOTE] Yes of course, his ult even gets better as the game drags on. What I meant was the scaling between level 1/2/3. Is it even worth it skilling level 2 and 3 before maxing out Natural Order? | ||
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