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On January 30 2011 09:57 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:On January 30 2011 06:29 therockmanxx wrote:
Eventhough there were only 3 games, this was way better than Jaedong vs Flash last finals !!
Its good that at least each of the kong line members receive a gold !!
I still feel bad for stork 3 0 ouch !!
Welcome to the Era of Fantas y !!! How was this better than Flash vs JD? Because we got 3 amazing games in 1 series rather than only 2 games in 3 finals that non-biased fans could enjoy as in Flash vs JD(FS and Zergliner were the only 2 good games). Face it, for those other than Flash fans eager to see him win, those finals sucked for having the 2 best players.
The Flash versus Fantasy and Jaedong versus Light semifinals from last year were far better than the Flash versus Jaedong finals. Fantasy versus Stork was quite short but we got to see some pretty elegant play.
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I really wanted Stork to win, but in this final it was inevitable that you'd feel great for the winner and bad for the loser. However, now that Fantasy has his gold, it's Stork's turn to reascend!
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Nice to see SlayersBoxer keeping in touch with BW somewhat 
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How much money did he won ?
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i asked that foreigners part question. i went to the final as a press from Japan.
i want let him know there are many fans outside of Korea... it seemed im the only foreigner at the press room! lol
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heheeh, stork is 2nd, how's that :D
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On February 01 2011 00:03 nok.jp wrote:
i asked that foreigners part question. i went to the final as a press from Japan.
i want let him know there are many fans outside of Korea... it seemed im the only foreigner at the press room! lol
kudos!
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On February 01 2011 10:51 nayumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 00:03 nok.jp wrote:
i asked that foreigners part question. i went to the final as a press from Japan.
i want let him know there are many fans outside of Korea... it seemed im the only foreigner at the press room! lol kudos!
Thanks! I feel sorry for ppl outside usa and japan... .
I have no intention to ignore other countries, it's all because of my poor korean.
I mis-pronounced the word of "foreign country", I should have said"woe-guk" but I did"wi-guk" which sounds like usa"mi-guk".
So fantasy thought it was usa... I gotta work hard to study korean ;-(
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The S-class rule is that they're favored to win against anyone not also S-class.
The same is true about King of Silver.
Fantasy: You fail at failing to win starleagues. Stork still Supreme Commander of 2nd place :3
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On January 30 2011 09:57 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:On January 30 2011 06:29 therockmanxx wrote:
Eventhough there were only 3 games, this was way better than Jaedong vs Flash last finals !!
Its good that at least each of the kong line members receive a gold !!
I still feel bad for stork 3 0 ouch !!
Welcome to the Era of Fantas y !!! How was this better than Flash vs JD? Because we got 3 amazing games in 1 series rather than only 2 games in 3 finals that non-biased fans could enjoy as in Flash vs JD(FS and Zergliner were the only 2 good games). Face it, for those other than Flash fans eager to see him win, those finals sucked for having the 2 best players.
Aren't you a Fantasy fan trying to hype his games? The first game was like watching Bisu making crappy mistake and the last 2 games were a one sided rape like most of the Flash/Jaedong finals so how was it amazing again? Oh yeah because you're an skt/fantasy fan.
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On February 02 2011 11:42 Monkeyshark wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 09:57 Lightwip wrote:On January 30 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:On January 30 2011 06:29 therockmanxx wrote:
Eventhough there were only 3 games, this was way better than Jaedong vs Flash last finals !!
Its good that at least each of the kong line members receive a gold !!
I still feel bad for stork 3 0 ouch !!
Welcome to the Era of Fantas y !!! How was this better than Flash vs JD? Because we got 3 amazing games in 1 series rather than only 2 games in 3 finals that non-biased fans could enjoy as in Flash vs JD(FS and Zergliner were the only 2 good games). Face it, for those other than Flash fans eager to see him win, those finals sucked for having the 2 best players. Aren't you a Fantasy fan trying to hype his games? The first game was like watching Bisu making crappy mistake and the last 2 games were a one sided rape like most of the Flash/Jaedong finals so how was it amazing again? Oh yeah because you're an skt/fantasy fan.
I actually like Stork more than Fantasy. Personal attacks are pretty cool though. Also, not sure why you felt it necessary to incorporate Bisu bashing into your post, trying to troll me perhaps?
But as an SKT fan, I think I should defend him from unwarranted criticism. Quite frankly, I only wrote hype for him because I was sick of all the people predicting Stork 3-0 and disrespecting his ability to prepare and his strong TvP skill. And now that he won, too many people here are talking about him being oov's puppet and only doing well with special builds. Even as a Stork fan, I think his fans have been getting absolutely ridiculous lately.
The games were good because they were fun to watch, especially game 3. Fantasy locked Stork down pretty well in Game 1. He lost stuff to mines, yes, but why are you only talking about how badly Stork stepped on mines and not about Fantasy's placement of mines and use of observer sniping to his advantage? Game 1 was as standard of a game as can be, and Fantasy won straight up. Give him the credit he deserves.
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These games were quite similar to the Flash vs JD MSL final that went 3-0. One player completely outsmarted, outprepared and smashed the other player in every way. They were not one bit more enjoyable to watch. This is not about giving credit to Fantasy or not, he totally deserved that win, this is about the games being entertaining from an objective perspective. Remember when you whined about Flash's games being boring because they were one-sided?
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On February 02 2011 17:00 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 11:42 Monkeyshark wrote:On January 30 2011 09:57 Lightwip wrote:On January 30 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:On January 30 2011 06:29 therockmanxx wrote:
Eventhough there were only 3 games, this was way better than Jaedong vs Flash last finals !!
Its good that at least each of the kong line members receive a gold !!
I still feel bad for stork 3 0 ouch !!
Welcome to the Era of Fantas y !!! How was this better than Flash vs JD? Because we got 3 amazing games in 1 series rather than only 2 games in 3 finals that non-biased fans could enjoy as in Flash vs JD(FS and Zergliner were the only 2 good games). Face it, for those other than Flash fans eager to see him win, those finals sucked for having the 2 best players. Aren't you a Fantasy fan trying to hype his games? The first game was like watching Bisu making crappy mistake and the last 2 games were a one sided rape like most of the Flash/Jaedong finals so how was it amazing again? Oh yeah because you're an skt/fantasy fan. I actually like Stork more than Fantasy. Personal attacks are pretty cool though. Also, not sure why you felt it necessary to incorporate Bisu bashing into your post, trying to troll me perhaps? But as an SKT fan, I think I should defend him from unwarranted criticism. Quite frankly, I only wrote hype for him because I was sick of all the people predicting Stork 3-0 and disrespecting his ability to prepare and his strong TvP skill. And now that he won, too many people here are talking about him being oov's puppet and only doing well with special builds. Even as a Stork fan, I think his fans have been getting absolutely ridiculous lately. The games were good because they were fun to watch, especially game 3. Fantasy locked Stork down pretty well in Game 1. He lost stuff to mines, yes, but why are you only talking about how badly Stork stepped on mines and not about Fantasy's placement of mines and use of observer sniping to his advantage? Game 1 was as standard of a game as can be, and Fantasy won straight up. Give him the credit he deserves.
I did not away Fantasy's credit in my post. All I did was compare how you said the finals of JD and Flash was not amazing like this series but it's the same if you look at it from a non fan boy way.
You watched this series as a fan boy so you thought it was amazing but from a non fanboy(myself) it was so one sided that it was boring. Stork never did anything to make the game even so how is that amazing?
Did I criticize fantasy in my post? How did you think I criticize fantasy in my post when I was just comparing the series? I defended fantasy in the SKT vs Samsung thread and stork in the Jan PR thread so I don't think I'm criticizing anyone here.
I also did not bash bisu, I'm just comparing stork to him in game one but is that wrong to compare to another player?
I do admit that in my post it was a personal attack so I'm sorry about that.
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On February 03 2011 07:24 Monkeyshark wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 17:00 Lightwip wrote:On February 02 2011 11:42 Monkeyshark wrote:On January 30 2011 09:57 Lightwip wrote:On January 30 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote:On January 30 2011 06:29 therockmanxx wrote:
Eventhough there were only 3 games, this was way better than Jaedong vs Flash last finals !!
Its good that at least each of the kong line members receive a gold !!
I still feel bad for stork 3 0 ouch !!
Welcome to the Era of Fantas y !!! How was this better than Flash vs JD? Because we got 3 amazing games in 1 series rather than only 2 games in 3 finals that non-biased fans could enjoy as in Flash vs JD(FS and Zergliner were the only 2 good games). Face it, for those other than Flash fans eager to see him win, those finals sucked for having the 2 best players. Aren't you a Fantasy fan trying to hype his games? The first game was like watching Bisu making crappy mistake and the last 2 games were a one sided rape like most of the Flash/Jaedong finals so how was it amazing again? Oh yeah because you're an skt/fantasy fan. I actually like Stork more than Fantasy. Personal attacks are pretty cool though. Also, not sure why you felt it necessary to incorporate Bisu bashing into your post, trying to troll me perhaps? But as an SKT fan, I think I should defend him from unwarranted criticism. Quite frankly, I only wrote hype for him because I was sick of all the people predicting Stork 3-0 and disrespecting his ability to prepare and his strong TvP skill. And now that he won, too many people here are talking about him being oov's puppet and only doing well with special builds. Even as a Stork fan, I think his fans have been getting absolutely ridiculous lately. The games were good because they were fun to watch, especially game 3. Fantasy locked Stork down pretty well in Game 1. He lost stuff to mines, yes, but why are you only talking about how badly Stork stepped on mines and not about Fantasy's placement of mines and use of observer sniping to his advantage? Game 1 was as standard of a game as can be, and Fantasy won straight up. Give him the credit he deserves. I did not away Fantasy's credit in my post. All I did was compare how you said the finals of JD and Flash was not amazing like this series but it's the same if you look at it from a non fan boy way. You watched this series as a fan boy so you thought it was amazing but from a non fanboy(myself) it was so one sided that it was boring. Stork never did anything to make the game even so how is that amazing? Did I criticize fantasy in my post? How did you think I criticize fantasy in my post when I was just comparing the series? I defended fantasy in the SKT vs Samsung thread and stork in the Jan PR thread so I don't think I'm criticizing anyone here. I also did not bash bisu, I'm just comparing stork to him in game one but is that wrong to compare to another player? I do admit that in my post it was a personal attack so I'm sorry about that.
Bisu is probably the second best PvT player right now, it's really a bit of an odd choice to talk about how he fails. Though he does do it, so do a lot of other players, except more frequently.
I'll concede that "amazing" wouldn't describe any of the games except maybe game 3. Yet these games are a hell of a lot better than most of Flash JD in terms of entertainment value.
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In your quite subjective view.
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On February 03 2011 10:25 Holgerius wrote:
In your quite subjective view.
Yours is no better my Flash-loving friend. Though I doubt you could argue that the 3-0 series was better than this one, even as a Flash fan. One use of ultra greed, one timing attack, and one hydra < mech game, all quite underwhelming.
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No, I'd argue that they were roughly equal from an objective perspective. My problem is that you dislike Flash's ''ability to make a hyped game less than what I'd want it to be'' and that you ''certainly don't want to see a single final that ends like those again''. Well, that is pretty much exactly what happened here. If you were consistent with your previous statements you'd be quite pissed off at Fantasy here.
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I'd disagree with you that they are equal(what would you use to argue that they are equal anyway?), none of the games from that series were interesting to watch. This does have some interesting games, even if it's less than what it could be as a 3-0 series.
Fantasy series are usually more entertaining than Flash series anyway. Those series vs Jaedong are only among many "ruined" series. It wins, and that is important, but if it's not interesting, I won't be too happy about it.
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This is going pretty far off-topic, so I'm gonna stop argue here and take it to PM instead.
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