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On October 26 2010 12:19 ReighT wrote:Gosh, IdrA is such a serious player. While I think that if everyone 4 gated and 6 pooled in a tournament, it wouldn't be fun, but every once in a while I think it actually kind of makes the tourny a bit more interesting. But props to IdrA anyways, he's a good player. 
Man your right, all he does is win. No fun at all.
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Idra could not be more right. I honestly always thought Idra had a bad attitude, but the more I'm watching him play and the more interviews I read from he, I find it very hard to disagree with what he says. Huk threw away that game, and while the mothership is very cool, its not worth throwing games away and especially not when there is money on the line.
As far as I'm concerned, I would rather watch Idra dominate players with pure skill, then seeing some gay cheese from HuK that he cant even win with. Good play will always get you far and lately Idra is looking invincible.
+ Show Spoiler +With Real Boxer and Fruitdealer out of the tourney, I think Idra's chance of winning went up by a long shot. He is a very smart guy and he will not lose to Fake Boxer the way that fruitdealer did after studying those games. And for the people making fun of fake boxer, the guy can play. The games against babywerra were painful to watch, but I think he is more comfortable in a tournament environment, and taking out the previous GSL winner in swift fashion will definently help.
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On October 28 2010 00:38 cangiz wrote:Idra could not be more right. I honestly always thought Idra had a bad attitude, but the more I'm watching him play and the more interviews I read from he, I find it very hard to disagree with what he says. Huk threw away that game, and while the mothership is very cool, its not worth throwing games away and especially not when there is money on the line. As far as I'm concerned, I would rather watch Idra dominate players with pure skill, then seeing some gay cheese from HuK that he cant even win with. Good play will always get you far and lately Idra is looking invincible. + Show Spoiler +With Real Boxer and Fruitdealer out of the tourney, I think Idra's chance of winning went up by a long shot. He is a very smart guy and he will not lose to Fake Boxer the way that fruitdealer did after studying those games. And for the people making fun of fake boxer, the guy can play. The games against babywerra were painful to watch, but I think he is more comfortable in a tournament environment, and taking out the previous GSL winner in swift fashion will definently help.
+ Show Spoiler +Real boxer isn't out of the tourney
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On October 26 2010 14:22 tarian wrote:Show nested quote +MLG: So, the Mothership is viable against bio, although obviously not the safest choice.
HuK: Well, yeah, it’s not like I haven’t ever Mothership rushed before, and had I not lost my natural and actually used it intelligently I could’ve won. I’ve done it before against good Terrans. It’s definitely possible to do. I don’t think when Boxer was Nuke rushing people it was the "smartest" or "safest" build, but he did it anyway and won. I’ve just got to work on that second part [laughs]. Maybe not Mothership rushing every time, but I definitely want to be able to threaten my enemy with every unit/strategy. HuK did not give up at all. Source: http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/316371/Mothership-Down-MLG-Interviews-HuK-after-His-Showstopping-Performance-in-D-C
Ye, clearly intelligent play against what select was doing.. Let me put this in lamen terms. He Teched to a unit on a map with wide open spaces while fast expanding against a 2 rax expand build into 3 rax. Now even blizzard claimed that terran > toss in the early game. What selects doing is not a harass and i can't believe huk would even try to classify it into that category. At any period in the game a bio force that has not been weakened is going to fuck you sideways to next tuesday if you dont have the proper Tech/units to handle it. after Expanding and then deciding to fast tech off what 2-3 gateways against a terran doing this strategy is just stupid and no player at his level would even consider this anything but a crowd pleaser, And he has the balls to turn around say that it was part of his strategy? Now i know huk is a smart player and he does not believe what he says. I really enjoyed watching huk until after this interview, but lying to us just seems to me like he takes me for a common idiot. If this had been on a different map where he had a strategy to deffend vs early bio aggression while he teched to mothership i would have said, wow thats pretty genius. but we didn't see that here.
I'll continue watching huk in excitement for more plays like this(as long as he has a solid plan to deal with aggression like i mentioned) . However i would much appreciate it if he does not treat his fans like a bunch of idiots when he says that this was part of his strategy.
:best of luck in the gsl Huk
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On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.
This may be correct but the truth is he didn't. So this just makes his build even more stupid the fact that it boiled down to 1 misclick.
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On October 28 2010 12:14 .Carnage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game. This may be correct but the truth is he didn't. So this just makes his build even more stupid the fact that it boiled down to 1 misclick.
It was a big misclick. It's like trying to Storm right on the ramp of your natural only to found out that you stormed your mineral lines.
Ergo, HTs suck?
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I'm a big fan of spectating sc2 now that I don't really have time to play anymore and I just have to say I disagree with all the Huk hate and IdrA love. Huk made two huge mistakes in the mothership game, he didn't scout select busting the rocks and he missed vortex bad, minus those mistakes and he wins that game. IdrA is a super solid player, probably the most consistent Zerg player atm, at least against T players for sure, we need to see him against some top P's and Z's to see how he fares, but he is boring to watch imo. He does the same builds and has the same reactions all the time like a robot (with the exception of that awesome hydra/spine push on steppes). He's a really good example of how to play Zerg atm, but he's not gonna stay a top level player for long. He's easy to figure out. I actually want him to do well and am glad he's representing foreigners and the US, but his attitude toward the game and predictable play are going to be his downfalls.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 28 2010 07:02 FindingPride wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2010 14:22 tarian wrote:MLG: So, the Mothership is viable against bio, although obviously not the safest choice.
HuK: Well, yeah, it’s not like I haven’t ever Mothership rushed before, and had I not lost my natural and actually used it intelligently I could’ve won. I’ve done it before against good Terrans. It’s definitely possible to do. I don’t think when Boxer was Nuke rushing people it was the "smartest" or "safest" build, but he did it anyway and won. I’ve just got to work on that second part [laughs]. Maybe not Mothership rushing every time, but I definitely want to be able to threaten my enemy with every unit/strategy. HuK did not give up at all. Source: http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/316371/Mothership-Down-MLG-Interviews-HuK-after-His-Showstopping-Performance-in-D-C Ye, clearly intelligent play against what select was doing.. Let me put this in lamen terms. He Teched to a unit on a map with wide open spaces while fast expanding against a 2 rax expand build into 3 rax. Now even blizzard claimed that terran > toss in the early game. What selects doing is not a harass and i can't believe huk would even try to classify it into that category. At any period in the game a bio force that has not been weakened is going to fuck you sideways to next tuesday if you dont have the proper Tech/units to handle it. after Expanding and then deciding to fast tech off what 2-3 gateways against a terran doing this strategy is just stupid and no player at his level would even consider this anything but a crowd pleaser, And he has the balls to turn around say that it was part of his strategy? Now i know huk is a smart player and he does not believe what he says. I really enjoyed watching huk until after this interview, but lying to us just seems to me like he takes me for a common idiot. If this had been on a different map where he had a strategy to deffend vs early bio aggression while he teched to mothership i would have said, wow thats pretty genius. but we didn't see that here. I'll continue watching huk in excitement for more plays like this(as long as he has a solid plan to deal with aggression like i mentioned) . However i would much appreciate it if he does not treat his fans like a bunch of idiots when he says that this was part of his strategy. :best of luck in the gsl Huk
You aren't a fan of HuK if you write a large paragraph of hate speech like that. You don't have to worry about "how he treats his fans."
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that mothership rush was worth losing the game if it pleased the fans
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On October 26 2010 13:03 phant wrote:
I would love to see Huk defeat Idra with a mothership rush and then ask his opinion of it.
this is also my opinion. i think huk is a great player, if he managed to disrupt Idra's macro machine. he would have a decent chance, and motherships would defiantly be a very fan oriented way to win.
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Huk is better than Idra and if you mix it up you might catch someone off guard. But if you don't like it then you can keep doing your "standard builds" and grind out your games
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