EPT[News] MBC on MBC-Gretech talks - Page 3
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
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nas
Canada33 Posts
On October 20 2010 07:44 maybenexttime wrote: So much for blizzard fanboys saying KeSPA did not respect blizzard IP rights from the very beginning... I think it's insane that Blizzard figures it has any right to control what people do with the game after they bought it. Copyright ensures they get paid for their work if anyone wants to play the game. Why should those rights transfer to video of people playing the game? Adobe does not have any right to images created by Photoshop and I think that's a pretty fair analogy. Guess I'm old fashioned. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
so KeSPA DOES have the broadcasting rights. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
I'm just saying that they may not seem as altruistic as it seems. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aonvZ.jpg) Then again, we've known for a while that MBCGame was pretty poor. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
10 million won is about $9,000 so if its for each season of the MSL/OSL it seems pretty reasonable, however if its for each time it airs that seems like it could get pretty steep. I am assuming its per episode which is what is haltering the negotiations but its not specified in the translation. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On October 20 2010 12:30 moopie wrote: The original article also had this table showing the IP fees paid by MBC over the past 3 years as well as the leagues operated over the years, the IP Status associated with them and who had Rights from Blizzard. Then again, we've known for a while that MBCGame was pretty poor. A translation would be awesome, because at the moment I don't understand what the fuck that graph means. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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BCH
Philippines88 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
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00-03 | KPGA Tour, MSL, OSL | Korean Progamers Association, Hanbitsoft | Hanbitsoft | X | X 04-06 | MSL OSL MBC Team League OGN Proleague | KeSPA, various sponsors | Hanbitsoft, Weicos, Son-Oh-Gong | X | X 07-10 | MSL OSL PL | KeSPA, various sponsors | Blizzard Korea | X | O After 2010 8. | MSL OSL PL | KeSPA, various sponsors | Gretech | O | O That's the first one. Second one (StarCraft Leagues Broadcasting Fees for last 4 years) Categories 07 08 09 10 Total Range of Broadcast(?) 50% etc Fee 250m won 310m 410 BLANK 970m + TV Production purchase price(?) 150m won 190m 230m 570m + ??? 100m won 120m+80m 180m+120m 150m 750m Notes (last row) blank blank blank only upto August blank Notes (this is below chart 2) 1: MBC negotiations ongoing 2: The above broadcasting stuff was done by IEG on behalf of KeSPA gtg, I don't know all the terms so someone else should do a proper translation. | ||
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Linx_101
Canada166 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On October 20 2010 13:00 Linx_101 wrote: Isn't the broadcasting fee 100 million won, instead of 10 million? oops, yes it is. sorry I mistyped ;;; | ||
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Ryo
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aru
183 Posts
On October 20 2010 10:55 dukethegold wrote: So the problem in the end is that MBC simply doesn't have the money to pay for what Gretech is asking without going into the reds. Despite the fact that Gretech is not asking for a lot. I would like to see OGN's profit numbers. I would appear that Gretech is asking for more than they said. On October 20 2010 07:36 ]343[ wrote: Their fee for the live broadcasting of individual league matches on just Friday was reasonable, but their asking price for broadcasting twice a week was far too expensive, making it hard for us to agree with them. | ||
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b_unnies
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
On October 20 2010 07:47 Lightwip wrote: I think they're trying to force Gretech to better terms via PR. But I certainly hope this ends well. I didn't know MBC isn't doing so well. Maybe they need some additional form of revenue.. It was starting to become evident around the NATE MSL though I'm sure the problems ran deep before that. A lot of the NATE MSL broadcasting seemed kind of rushed in terms of trying to broadcast it in as little airtime as possible (cutting off intros, camera angles, etc). It just felt a little less formal than what we've seen MSLs traditionally is. Compared to OGN, MBCGame seems to be faltering quite a bit though they've seem to have found a new balance for now. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
Does GSL even use the original sound track for a second option? | ||
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FishForThought
Canada88 Posts
On October 20 2010 12:01 nas wrote: I think it's insane that Blizzard figures it has any right to control what people do with the game after they bought it. Copyright ensures they get paid for their work if anyone wants to play the game. Why should those rights transfer to video of people playing the game? Adobe does not have any right to images created by Photoshop and I think that's a pretty fair analogy. Guess I'm old fashioned. Photoshop/AutoCad/3DsMax have commercial licenses that allows you to make money off the work that you create with those tools. Technically, without the commercial license, you are not allow to sell your work for profit. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
On October 20 2010 13:13 b_unnies wrote: lol MBC, just because you have money problems doesnt mean you're exempt from paying. -.- they said the price for 1 day is reasonable but from the sounds of it gretech massively upped the price for a 2nd day (which a starleague really needs) just to reduce the competition for GSL. If you want bullshit PR just read some of gretech's releases, they aren't acting in the interest of e-sports by trying to eliminate competition. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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