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frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 19:13:24
February 21 2009 19:10 GMT
#181
Just had a talk with Hanzo, FD's owner, he pretty much doesn't deal with the "euro stuff" and lets flyy deal with those issues (flyy: http://fragdominant.com/user/11054/ ). He said he would look into the ladder abuse and if it is true, he would remove ToaD from his organization.

kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 20:17:47
February 21 2009 20:08 GMT
#182
On February 22 2009 01:14 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 01:00 kemoryan wrote:
Wow, so much hate against this guy saying there are others who deserve it more. Hey, it's a freaking contract between this gaming company and him, it's not like a public charity or something where a rich guy gets paid instead of a poor guy. Or, did Idra deserve the progaming license more than any of those koreans who spend 12 hrs a day in a clan house? So don't talk about dedication or courage, this has nothing to do with that, it's just being in the right place in the right time. The most you can do is blame FD for being ignorant about the scene and the player itself.

I mean, what if FD or w/e came to you and payed you for staying in Korea and mingle with "the right people". Would you say: "No, I'm just D+ there are others who deserve it more!!"?

Time will tell whether it's all a big fail (most probably) or something interesting comes out, but there's no reason to feel so offended...


Uh.. yes i would say that? And if i didn't; I would be fine with expect other people to call me out for being a bitch..?
There's a HUGE reason to feel offended some trash player comes up and takes what should belong to people who've actually worked.
You present a rational, yet ignorant argument. at least TRY to play SC competitively and you will easily see why it's such a big deal.
Show nested quote +

Or, did Idra deserve the progaming license more than any of those koreans who spend 12 hrs a day in a clan house?

What do u know about Idra ? You his friend? you know everything about him right? , do you have any clue of what he sacrificed? Me neither, and likewise with you. (granted , it was indirectly through a metaphor), but don't talk shit about him? jesus


Ok first of all when did I talk shit about Idra? Read again and don't invent stuff please. Actually you are the one who called that french guy TRASH, do you know everything about him, are you his friend?

I was pointing out that telling who deserves what and who doesn't makes no sense, there are a lot of people that have worked hard to be good at starcraft, so does that mean we should make a ranking to tell who deserves it the most? It's just pointless, and even more pointless to get so mad about it. That french guy was lucky enough to get a contract with FD, that is all.
Freedom is a stranger
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
February 21 2009 21:14 GMT
#183
I'm sorry but if a company wishes to get involved in a market that they see potential growth in 2009 for maybe they should do some research into the market.

If I pick up the wall street journal, look at current exchange rates and spend a couple thousand on gold without researching it and it turns out that gold is losing value .... I would be an idiot.

If a company makes a very ignorant decision and comes up looking like idiots then who am I to say they don't deserve it.

TBH, if this late in the scene for starcraft your idea is that a non-korean college student can show up in korea and recruit pro gamers while training to be one and training others is laughable and those who made the decisions should be laughed at.

I'm sorry but they weren't smart enough to do it correctly. It gives future non-korean companys a bad name. Its funny because simple google searches can answer any starcraft related question esp pro-gaming related...

Good job on making your company look stupid and pissing off an entire community.

CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
February 21 2009 21:39 GMT
#184
i feel bad for his gf.
SNSD fan
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51416 Posts
February 21 2009 22:14 GMT
#185
On February 22 2009 06:39 CapO wrote:
i feel bad for his gf.


hahahahaha
i'd laugh if she decided to dump him.
came all the korea to 'study with her' then ends up lonely in korea all alone

poetic justice.
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Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 22:23:49
February 21 2009 22:22 GMT
#186
On February 22 2009 06:39 CapO wrote:
i feel bad for his gf.


"Hai honey im gunna be a progamer and live with you in korea cus a european team wants me as a scout"

"scouts are useless..ㅠㅠ;;"
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
February 21 2009 22:23 GMT
#187
ToaD for next bonjwa
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
February 21 2009 22:34 GMT
#188
ToasT
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
February 21 2009 22:36 GMT
#189
I think we got our message heard by Frag fairly well

any more flaming / cursing beyond this point is frankly unnecessary
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 22:39:55
February 21 2009 22:37 GMT
#190
Lol D+ with abuse.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
February 21 2009 22:41 GMT
#191
On February 22 2009 07:23 StRyKeR wrote:
ToaD for next bonjwa

+1
I feel like pwning noobs
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
February 21 2009 22:48 GMT
#192
On February 22 2009 07:36 StRyKeR wrote:
I think we got our message heard by Frag fairly well

any more flaming / cursing beyond this point is frankly unnecessary


Yes, they should be pretty much aware of the whole situation by now by reading their own thread http://fragdominant.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4464 and the various gaming sites (SCforall, TL).
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 21 2009 22:53 GMT
#193
On February 22 2009 07:48 Schnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 07:36 StRyKeR wrote:
I think we got our message heard by Frag fairly well

any more flaming / cursing beyond this point is frankly unnecessary


Yes, they should be pretty much aware of the whole situation by now by reading their own thread http://fragdominant.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4464 and the various gaming sites (SCforall, TL).

Awesome possum.
Super serious.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
February 21 2009 23:22 GMT
#194
this is so unbelievable.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
February 21 2009 23:23 GMT
#195
LOL man... I love how this manager dude at FD tries to back out of it by saying he was meant to be a "scout" . Loooooooooooooool. YAOK

-----

[quote="joN"]

Again, this brings me back to my first post stating Pierre was going to be a scout for us; someone to look over the scene and keep us up to date on different happenings.
[/quote]

Oh ya, a scout! Sorry for two posts on the same topic but this is really funny. Why would a scout write this in his own self-created self-promotion group on facebook:


who is going to pwn the world with Protoss?
who is going to pwn the korean starcraft pro-gamer scene after february?
who is going to pwn YOU and YOUR ASS pussies?

it's him
the only one
the master of disaster
PIERRE-JEAN ORGUES
ToaD


Why would a "scout" pwn my ass? Since when do "scouts" pwn the korean starcraft pro-gamer scene?

Frag Dominant in my opinion, is a joke.

--------

Biggest bullshit I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen a so-called professional organization managed so poorly. If they can't even do market research properly what hope do they have of survival.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
February 21 2009 23:26 GMT
#196
On February 22 2009 00:59 closed wrote:
I think he is supposed to be a talent scout.Unfortunately, some idiots though that they might make him a progamer.
As I understand it, they will pay him some relatively cheap money to search for SC (or rather SC2) talents. Personally I believe he might fail.
But on the other hand - you bash the guy; he fucking sucks at starcraft, but he is smart enough to abuse his way to D+! Maybe he will be able to abuse some idiotic 12 year old kroean to join "frag dominant". I think that's their plan
Of course they also think that someone who never achieved anything (LOL D+ rank) can become great quickly. I dont think he can even get the B rank... and progamers are above A rank easily..

I think he used to be a top wc3 player so I assume he should be able to reach B- in a year or so with proper training.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51416 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 23:27:00
February 21 2009 23:26 GMT
#197
;p
Commentator
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 21 2009 23:34 GMT
#198
Xeris just beat them up on their site. Hilarious to see how the vice-president tries to defend their stupid decision. They just made Frag Dominant a big joke. lol
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 23:56:27
February 21 2009 23:46 GMT
#199
no he was never a top wc3 player, i've never even heard of him hes just a fanboy

edit: Guys stop flaming so much theres no need at all and you're giving starcraft players a bad reputation, you might even put them off investing in starcraft/starcraft 2 all together which will only hurt eSports imo if you don't tone it down
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany597 Posts
February 21 2009 23:59 GMT
#200
On February 22 2009 07:41 liger13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 07:23 StRyKeR wrote:
ToaD for next bonjwa

+1


+2. ToaD is the best foreigner in Korea at the moment.
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