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Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 22:51:24
October 08 2008 22:50 GMT
#21
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Korean Royalty marry their children off when they were like even as young as 9 or 10?

Edit: Oh I forgot, they didn't have kids when they were that young :/
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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 08 2008 22:52 GMT
#22
Or the bible was written by men who make mistakes? The bible isnt literally the word of god, its written by men who often "fuck up".
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 08 2008 22:55 GMT
#23
Why point something like this out and not stuff like the whoring of daughters, murdering of homosexuals/people in general, etc.
No I'm never serious.
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 22:57:43
October 08 2008 22:56 GMT
#24
Interesting observation!

Well...just because it is recorded in the Bible does not necessitate that it is a reflection of Christian views.

Genesis 19:30-38 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)


Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
[NIV at IBS] [International Bible Society] [NIV at Zondervan] [Zondervan]

Lot and His Daughters
30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is no man around here to lie with us, as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let's get our father to drink wine and then lie with him and preserve our family line through our father."

33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, "Last night I lay with my father. Let's get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and lie with him so we can preserve our family line through our father." 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went and lay with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot's daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab [a] ; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi [b] ; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.


Does that mean Christians practice, or condone incest?

I hardly think so.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
October 08 2008 22:56 GMT
#25
On October 09 2008 07:36 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 07:29 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Okay now that I think, this was before Jesus was born (whoever believes that). So everything was "legal" before that (because official there wasn't religion yet) :D

Then again 10 year old kids having sex isn't illegal today so...


You can say you dont believe jesus was the son of god, or a did any miracles, but to outright deny his existance ?

I mean, the bible is not the only thing that talks about the guy you know ...

Actually there are no credible 1st hand sources of the same time mentioning the person. Mostly just mentions of christians and who they worship, texts that are written years after jesus died.

Sorry that I went off topic and I hope I dont start a flamewar by this. Just want you too look it up and see for yourself.
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 08 2008 22:58 GMT
#26
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but I'm fairly sure it's ok in christianity (at least back then) for 10 year olds to have sex, as long as they are married. I think marital status was more important than age.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 23:03:59
October 08 2008 23:00 GMT
#27
On October 09 2008 07:30 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 07:20 zer0das wrote:
Uh... you realize in times past people used to die pretty young? It wasn't uncommon for people to procreate when they were young (and often), because they died young too.


no


Okay? 10-11 is on the very low end of things, but it isn't unthinkable. Given that he was the king in the making, his diet was probably a lot better than the average person, so I don't see why an early age of puberty wouldn't be possible.

On October 09 2008 07:15 Too_MuchZerg wrote:So Christianity accepts 10-11 years old to have sex? Unless I totally misunderstood what these lines did mean.


To answer this question, an isolated Old Testament verse is not going to tell you what Christians believe. Notice what it says immediately following... "he did not do what was right in the eyes of the LORD his God." So that should tell you something right there. Not to mention that kings over the ages have tended to indulge themselves sexually. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the case here.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
October 08 2008 23:02 GMT
#28
On October 09 2008 07:58 CDRdude wrote:
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but I'm fairly sure it's ok in christianity (at least back then) for 10 year olds to have sex, as long as they are married. I think marital status was more important than age.


Christianity didn't exist before Christ... -_-
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
October 08 2008 23:05 GMT
#29
On October 09 2008 07:38 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 07:36 D10 wrote:
On October 09 2008 07:29 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Okay now that I think, this was before Jesus was born (whoever believes that). So everything was "legal" before that (because official there wasn't religion yet) :D

Then again 10 year old kids having sex isn't illegal today so...


You can say you dont believe jesus was the son of god, or a did any miracles, but to outright deny his existance ?

I mean, the bible is not the only thing that talks about the guy you know ...


what the hell can you read? he said "before jesus was born"

he is probably not denying jesus' existence


He said whoever belives that as if whoever belives theres even a jesus so that the passing of years could be counted on him
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 08 2008 23:06 GMT
#30
On October 09 2008 07:38 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 07:36 D10 wrote:
On October 09 2008 07:29 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Okay now that I think, this was before Jesus was born (whoever believes that). So everything was "legal" before that (because official there wasn't religion yet) :D

Then again 10 year old kids having sex isn't illegal today so...


You can say you dont believe jesus was the son of god, or a did any miracles, but to outright deny his existance ?

I mean, the bible is not the only thing that talks about the guy you know ...


what the hell can you read? he said "before jesus was born"

he is probably not denying jesus' existence

"Whoever believes that" implies disbelief.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 08 2008 23:10 GMT
#31
They just wrote down some random numbers. They obviously didn't even check it afterwards.

Why did you? Don't you know what the bible is?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
October 08 2008 23:11 GMT
#32
On October 09 2008 08:06 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 07:38 ]343[ wrote:
On October 09 2008 07:36 D10 wrote:
On October 09 2008 07:29 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Okay now that I think, this was before Jesus was born (whoever believes that). So everything was "legal" before that (because official there wasn't religion yet) :D

Then again 10 year old kids having sex isn't illegal today so...


You can say you dont believe jesus was the son of god, or a did any miracles, but to outright deny his existance ?

I mean, the bible is not the only thing that talks about the guy you know ...


what the hell can you read? he said "before jesus was born"

he is probably not denying jesus' existence

"Whoever believes that" implies disbelief.


Yeh I don't believe any religion.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 23:14:32
October 08 2008 23:12 GMT
#33
On October 09 2008 08:10 BlackStar wrote:
They just wrote down some random numbers. They obviously didn't even check it afterwards.

Why did you? Don't you know what the bible is?


As OP says, this was so called internet thing.

Oh and I think there is part where they list some guys as 500-700 years old before they die, there was explanation for that too but can't remember anymore. This way humans reproduced pretty fast pace.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
October 08 2008 23:22 GMT
#34
you are surprised christians support children having sex? Obviously you need to read up on catholic priests. Having sex with young boys is pretty much policy.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 08 2008 23:25 GMT
#35
On October 09 2008 08:22 Mastermind wrote:
you are surprised christians support children having sex? Obviously you need to read up on catholic priests. Having sex with young boys is pretty much policy.


cool so if 10 atheists are murderers all atheists are murderers good logic
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
October 08 2008 23:30 GMT
#36
On October 09 2008 08:25 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2008 08:22 Mastermind wrote:
you are surprised christians support children having sex? Obviously you need to read up on catholic priests. Having sex with young boys is pretty much policy.


cool so if 10 atheists are murderers all atheists are murderers good logic



But atheists don't murder especially young boys. They are more open minded.
Resistance ain't futile
I_are_n00b
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
196 Posts
October 08 2008 23:35 GMT
#37
Open minded like Stalin, Mao, good thing they followed that whole "Religion is the opium of the masses," Karl Marx communist stuff or else they would've been evil.
lookatmyname
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 08 2008 23:38 GMT
#38
Well guess all there's left is to make some retarded analogy about Hitler and we have another successful religion topic going on TL.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
October 08 2008 23:41 GMT
#39
yeh mods can close this topic, thanks.
Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
October 08 2008 23:43 GMT
#40
10 year old boy doesnt have sperm yet....
at least i didnt have
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