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from: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/275535/0
bm ftw? even though i didnt post that or have had the slight inclination to post in that thread, i'd surely love to know who was the childish retard who thid such an act of immature-ness and "what's mine is mine" baby attitude.
come out of that shell asshole, don't put "teamliquid" at the end.
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It was supposed to be a picture of Midas made by TL, and one of the guys, not a staff member of GG.net, just a simple, random user posted that picture on that thread, and one of the TL staff members edited the Midas picture and wrote that there like same way my little baby sister would do. If the picture was posted in a GG news i would understand the reason the hobo did that, but since it was in a thread, and posted by some random user, i got mad and decided to post this as an act of public humilliation. TL makes pictures and w/e yes, but does TL get any profit from them? Doesn't an URL show up when you right click on a picture saying http://TEAMLIQUID.NET/etc/etc? Those pictures are acts of free public service, i'm not paying you to make them, so why go gay over it and demand that no other site uses them?
Retarded.
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8748 Posts
EsX_Raptor you are providing the tl.net link to the image, so none of us can see what you're complaining about. It's simply a picture of Midas right now...
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Belgium9947 Posts
On August 08 2008 03:34 EsX_Raptor wrote:It was supposed to be a picture of Midas made by TL, and one of the guys, not a staff member of GG.net, just a simple, random user posted that picture on that thread, and one of the TL staff members edited the Midas picture and wrote that there like same way my little baby sister would do. If the picture was posted in a GG news i would understand the reason the hobo did that, but since it was in a thread, and posted by some random user, i got mad and decided to post this as an act of public humilliation. TL makes pictures and w/e yes, but does TL get any profit from them? Doesn't an URL show up when you right click on a picture saying http://TEAMLIQUID.NET/etc/etc? Those pictures are acts of free public service, i'm not paying you to make them, so why go gay over it and demand that no other site uses them? Retarded. youre wrong.
GosuGamers once almost literally transscribed a news post of mani's, even using the same pictures. So now, when you direct link to pictures on TL's server from GosuGamers, they get replace by that paint picture
edit: proof: if you go to the link he provided to GG first, you get to see the paint writings, if you visit this first you get to see the real picture
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It is not a picture of midas dude, explain to me what the hell is this then:
I don't see any midas in there but rather a bm message of shit.
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Belgium8305 Posts
hahahaha
besides that, do you think bandwidth is free
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8748 Posts
ah EsX_Raptor now you actually saved the image yourself and hosted it yourself so people can see. Your original post didn't make any sense
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On August 08 2008 03:41 vGl-CoW wrote: hahahaha
besides that, do you think bandwidth is free
free speech, free photos for all lARGUGHHHH
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On August 08 2008 03:38 RaGe wrote: GosuGamers once ...
I'm not talking about the "once" here man, im talking about the fucking now and why the hell did they do that to that picture on that post by that random user?
If you want to avoid those problems go ahead and start watermarking your pictures, i have no problem with that and i dont care or give a slight fuck, but don't do such acts of mental retardedness and display them to the entire public please, this just simply lowers the impression TL gives and im all the way back down here in the forgotten Venezuela.
EDIT: ROFL, that means you arent willing to host the pictures in your own TL.net because it's too expensive? I wonder what does ToT or other people say about others LINKING their pictures on other sites x'DDDDDDD
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lol. I think that's pretty funny. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to webpages but isn't it possible just to disable direct linking?
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Maybe you should look at the image url "http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Manifesto7/ShinHanOSLwk8/game1midasface.jpg"
The poster on GG.net is hotlinking.
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On August 08 2008 03:45 EsX_Raptor wrote:I'm not talking about the "once" here man, im talking about the fucking now and why the hell did they do that to that picture on that post by that random user? If you want to avoid those problems go ahead and start watermarking your pictures, i have no problem with that and i dont care or give a slight fuck, but don't do such acts of mental retardedness and display them to the entire public please, this just simply lowers the impression TL gives and im all the way back down here in the forgotten Venezuela.
That's a city in Mexico, right??
What the hell are you pissed about? Swiping pictures and sucking bandwith is lame, and GG always does it.
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*sigh*
As vGI-CoW has said, bandwidth isn't free and this is not an image hosting site.
How did you know that that was done intentionally and not by a "server rule" that redirects hot-linked images to that "paint picture"?
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Hawk, dude, please read again the quote you have on that post and read again why am I pissed. I'll give you a clue: "...this just simply lowers the impression TL gives..."
dyodyo, please man use your brain not your keyboard: I'm sure a bot didn't decide one day to open up MS Paint and write that itself.
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Calgary25980 Posts
This is great, that's what it is.
Fuck off and stop linking our content.
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Dude, wtf? I don't even think you're talking to the right person here, I'm just another random user here ROFL XDDD
Looks like you're talking to your computer monitor and the wall behind it.
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Calgary25980 Posts
I'm talking to people who steal our content.
As for you, you have no idea what you're talking about and have no understanding of the situation. We understand your concern for TL looking professional, but it was outweighed by the annoyance of GG.net being oblivious to our requests. In the end, protecting our content won out over upholding absolute professionalism.
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Uh...
That is like MS Paint?
If this was like some yubee stuff or another sick banner it would be big deal, but cmon dude its some writing in MS Paint?
W/e i dont have to stamina to care.
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You do realize there might be a (long) story behind this you don't know? We've always had problems with GG.net stealing our content, posting our news as though it was theirs. Not letting them hotlink's one way to keep that problem under control.
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You can't really argue or tell people how to run their website. They are paying for it, and they decide what should be done.
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Calgary25980 Posts
Ugh why must everything go on and on... Here's the timeline:
- GG.net copy / pastes everything we write and doesn't source anything. - We tell them to stop. - They stop for a few days. - GG.net copy / pastes everything we write and doesn't source anything. - We tell them to stop. - They stop for a few days. - GG.net copy / pastes everything we write and doesn't source anything. - We tell them to stop. - They stop for a few days. - GG.net copy / pastes everything we write and doesn't source anything. - We tell them to stop. - They stop for a few days. - GG.net copy / pastes everything we write and doesn't source anything. - We tell them to stop. - They stop for a few days. - GG.net copy / pastes everything we write and doesn't source anything. - We tell them to stop. - They stop for a few days. - We get fed up. - We discuss possible solutions in MiR, eventually deciding we will not allow hotlinking from gosugamers.net. - Fakesteve makes a sample banner. - We decide it's hillarious and actually decide to use it. - GG.net sees it a few times and now cites their sources properly. - Everyone is happy. - Random GG.net user links to a TL image. - TL poster oblivious to everything I just wrote up there takes offense to it and makes this blog.
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On August 08 2008 04:00 SCC-Faust wrote: You can't really argue or tell people how to run their website. They are paying for it, and they decide what should be done.
Being in charge doesn't mean you're immune to criticism.
Though that doesn't stop him from being completely wrong.
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it might be true, i dont have complete understanding of the situation, but i do know what i see and im sure that which i see is what everyone else who doesn't "understand the situation" sees, which is roughly about 99.99% of the people who visit this site and gg.net.
Just watermark your pictures from now on and learn from your mistakes, in the end, we're all humans and thus not perfect.
But remember that Manners > All, I imagine what a football team would do to someone who stole their property, stuff, etc if they didn't act professionally, or what the National Destructive Weapons Association would do.
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Calgary25980 Posts
On August 08 2008 04:03 EsX_Raptor wrote: Just watermark your pictures from now on and learn from your mistakes, in the end, we're all humans and thus not perfect.
But remember that Manners > All, I imagine what a football team would do to someone who stole their property, stuff, etc if they didn't act professionally, or what the National Destructive Weapons Association would do.
Thank you for your feedback. In the end we have decided to move forward in another direction. Although you seem very strong-willed about your suggestion, we unfortunately do not agree with your conclusions and thus must take other actions.
Again, thank you for your concerns on this matter.
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I think you should just get over it, really.
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What's going on in dis thread guyz??
Certainly no image stealing, thats for sure.
(never steals pictures)
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United States22883 Posts
All you need to do is save the picture and upload it to imageshack. Holy crap.
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OMG, you had a chance to GOATSE GG.net and you wasted it...
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According to me ( and it's REALLY obvious ), this thread doesn'T exist for the right thing. This thread should be about waht Midas look like on this pic. GG.net isn't the one that posted that pic. If you really wanted to protect your content, the coder of this website could have done it and they know how, simple and easy. You are right, we don't have to steal your content, but if you really look at the news on gg.net, you will see there is less content FROM teamliquid.net, for news or gosubet. So to come back to the beginning, gg.net isn't responsible for the behavior of the users. If we see fit to nuke a comment, we do it, that's it, that's all.
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i thank you too for understanding my views. whichever way you guys want to go to address this issue is totally fine with me, not a problem. its just that i take sc and everything related to it too much by heart (exrtremely) and it saddens me seeing such actions because i then start thinking "sc is then, just another little game" and my view of it: a bad-ass professional, mannered sport, gets totally anihilated.
that's it, thx again
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can you please quote the context of where your anger and sentiment comes from!
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On August 08 2008 04:12 Stealthunter wrote: According to me ( and it's REALLY obvious ), this thread doesn'T exist for the right thing. This thread should be about waht Midas look like on this pic. GG.net isn't the one that posted that pic. If you really wanted to protect your content, the coder of this website could have done it and they know how, simple and easy. You are right, we don't have to steal your content, but if you really look at the news on gg.net, you will see there is less content FROM teamliquid.net, for news or gosubet. So to come back to the beginning, gg.net isn't responsible for the behavior of the users. If we see fit to nuke a comment, we do it, that's it, that's all.
The irony in this name/thread is funny
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Calgary25980 Posts
On August 08 2008 04:12 Stealthunter wrote: According to me ( and it's REALLY obvious ), this thread doesn'T exist for the right thing. This thread should be about waht Midas look like on this pic. GG.net isn't the one that posted that pic. If you really wanted to protect your content, the coder of this website could have done it and they know how, simple and easy. You are right, we don't have to steal your content, but if you really look at the news on gg.net, you will see there is less content FROM teamliquid.net, for news or gosubet. So to come back to the beginning, gg.net isn't responsible for the behavior of the users. If we see fit to nuke a comment, we do it, that's it, that's all.
He's asking why that image exists and is in use. I told him. It's because GG.net used to steal our news and images and were dodgy when we called them on it. We got fed up. That has nothing to do with how GG.net operates now.
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On August 08 2008 04:13 EsX_Raptor wrote: i thank you too for understanding my views. whichever way you guys want to go to address this issue is totally fine with me, not a problem. its just that i take sc and everything related to it too much by heart (exrtremely) and it saddens me seeing such actions because i then start thinking "sc is then, just another little game" and my view of it: a bad-ass professional, mannered sport, gets totally anihilated.
that's it, thx again
huh? "issue"? where? gtfo
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Poll: petition to gallery this blog (Vote): yes (Vote): no
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United States5210 Posts
Lots of sites have far worse images to discourage hotlinking from their sites pictures.
As people have said bandwidth is not free; why wouldn't you (or them) just link to their article?
If people are too lazy to do that, they get what they deserve (and it could be farrrrrrr worse).
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that comment wasnt directed to you anderoo, it was directed to chill, thus you don't, and won't get its true meaning unless you take your time to actually READ the blog.
chill answered my questions, i don't have anything else to say.
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i dont think you got this but multiple people have stated this
there's code that makes the image appear as that mspaint writing if its loaded in gosugamers.net
for people who went to this blog before they went to that gosugamers.net page, the image loads normally, it hadn't been changed manually. and after that image is in their cache, it'll appear normally even on the gosugamers page.
the converse is also true. if someone goes to the gosugamer page and sees that no-hotlinking paint image, it'll save in their cache as that image and if they view it in tl.net, as you did, it'll still appear as the paint image. don't believe me? clear your cache, refresh this page, then go to the gosugamers page.
the mspaint was never switched in to personally humiliate that one user, but its a cover-all anti hotlinking code against gosugamers.net in general. it's an easier solution than watermarking because the code only has to be written in once instead of like a watermark placed on every single image captured by tl.net
that is all
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yeah i got that when dyodyo made his comment on page 1. thx
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On August 08 2008 03:51 EsX_Raptor wrote: dyodyo, please man use your brain not your keyboard: I'm sure a bot didn't decide one day to open up MS Paint and write that itself. this didnt make it look like you understood
anyway im done
have fun
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lol, he seriously makes the title "TL WTF ... is this shit?" then expects no retribution from the site e's trying to mock ; when apparently he's only trying to address the mods
that comment wasnt directed to you anderoo, it was directed to chill, thus you don't, and won't get its true meaning unless you take your time to actually READ the blog.
...lack of knowing PM system... doesn't lack the "BM" ;of course; while trying to portray someone else as BM
and even when all his questions are allegedly answered he's still in the blog, reading every comment (because he's got nothing left to say of course ) and making snide remarks (when he has nothing else to say =/) makes me think he does have something to say 
for example,
that's it, thx again
i don't have anything else to say.
either way the sooner this thing gets closed/ galleried; the better
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Calgary25980 Posts
[13:36] Ben: and i'd rather have our content on our servers than get rehosted on imageshack [13:37] Blake: yea id take it down [13:37] Blake: imo
Hooray your lobbying has worked it seems!
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i have nothing else to say about the issue, but not about the ignorance of others.
and yes i made a mistake, i shouldve taken this on pm, that way everyone here including you wouldve never answered my blog or even known that i exist, not something worthy imo.
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On August 08 2008 04:37 Chill wrote: [13:36] Ben: and i'd rather have our content on our servers than get rehosted on imageshack [13:37] Blake: yea id take it down [13:37] Blake: imo
Hooray your lobbying has worked it seems! Haha yeah, in the most indirect way possible.
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Yes, please close this now.
I think this will go in no other way than to just piss of each side or humiliate anyone further.
Yes, some editors took up on the habit of copying pics from TL.net, TL.net made fun of us over that. Not a professional way imo, but we were at fault from the start so we can't really argue about it.
Unfortunately it affected a random gg.net user, but that is more funny and stupid for tl.net than anything else. No need to keep fighting over it.
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that way everyone here including you wouldve never answered my blog or even known that i exist, not something worthy imo.
sarcasm doesn't transfer over internet im afraid (forgive me if i assume the same condescending manner of speech as portrayed in the title/OP/ and nearly every post made in this blog) ; i'll give you the benefit of the doubt in any case
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On August 08 2008 04:41 Lord_of_Chaos wrote: Yes, please close this now.
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On August 08 2008 04:22 EsX_Raptor wrote: that comment wasnt directed to you anderoo, it was directed to chill, thus you don't, and won't get its true meaning unless you take your time to actually READ the blog.
chill answered my questions, i don't have anything else to say.
Before this gets closed, I did read the thread. An "issue" is another way of saying "problem" in which if this blog was never created no one here would have a problem. Which means to me it's your problem, and no one else's so by "gtfo" I meant stop making your problems everybody else's
In other news: gg.net blows. Suck it
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United States7488 Posts
I'd guess you missed it because it was a blog
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MURICA15980 Posts
Yeah. Can I still ban him even though it's a blog? He's totally incoherent and argues like a kid. Meh.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On August 09 2008 16:46 Klogon wrote: Yeah. Can I still ban him even though it's a blog? He's totally incoherent and argues like a kid. Meh.
I was tempted too, if it makes you feel any better... but I think this one is done.
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