EPTROFL to all you D+'s on ICCUP - Page 7
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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KwarK
United States44012 Posts
On July 04 2008 07:28 EnergyTraction wrote: Every thread about people who do this on ICCUP turns into a clan x17 east forum kinda of topic it's really sad. And why do you even care? Did he beat you? That's usually the reason this shit comes up It's also funny that nobody ever said anything to Kwark despite being 250-100 B- playing all D's Simply not true. Fuck you. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
2.) Our prerogative has never been to bring people back to SC by giving poor advice. It has always been to produce the best English coverage we can, and to make it as accessible as possible. 3.) We have never made any statement claiming Combat's skill or SC achievements. 4.) And most importantly, most SC2GG members are also TL members. We don't troll here in hopes of finding some juicy, inflammatory thread. We browse the TL forums just like we do our own. Any time you work at something, you notice when people are critical of it. The allegations against Combat are unfortunate, but I fail to see how they should bring so much hate to SC2GG. I apologize outright for anything we've done to upset the bulk of the TL membership, and really hope that one day this ridiculous seperation in the community can go away. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 24 2008 05:59 intrigue wrote: sc2gg guys are you all fucking trolls or something I guess admitting they just want free views from combat and they don't have any integrity is harder than making up some bullshit excuse for it. | ||
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Kurotoss
Canada11 Posts
2. I'm going to investigate this and make sure it's either true or not true. 3. If we do find out he has been abusing there will definitely be a consequence for Combat on both iCCup and SC2GG (I am the head over at SC2GG and a SA over at iCCup) and a formal apology on behalf of SC2GG to the community. 4. If he hasn't been abusing then I expect the same in return. EDIT: Hey Plexa, it's Edwin, would you mind closing this thread until I get the investigation finished? Thanks. | ||
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KwarK
United States44012 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:49 Koltz wrote: Last season was worse, but this shows the picture as well I think. (I don't mean to belittle kwark at all, I am just pointing out that kwark and combat are similar in this aspect) http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) And then look at the date. When that was taken it was 2 weeks into the season and I was the highest ranked foreigner (and also the player with most games, the two facts being somewhat related). You try and find a game at B- at European times when there is no non Korean B- and only 4 non Korean C+s. Now look at my account more recently and you will find I only play my own rank, I don't dodge good stats and I still fucking hold my own. I got a high B rank last season and I will exceed it this. I am in no way comparable to Combat-Ex who does what he does because he can't beat his own rank. When there are no people of your own rank, or even of one rank below you, online then you have little choice. So don't just post your screenshots out of context when you know exactly what was going on. Oh, and two weeks into the season half those C rank guys I was playing there were B rank guys who just hadn't played that many games. Playing C ranks that early in the season is not noob-bashing. Half of them owned me and took 150 points off me for it. | ||
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Kurotoss
Canada11 Posts
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tiffany
3664 Posts
On July 05 2008 07:49 Koltz wrote: Last season was worse, but this shows the picture as well I think. (I don't mean to belittle kwark at all, I am just pointing out that kwark and combat are similar in this aspect) http://i26.tinypic.com/2eaou87.png (Just look at the changes collumn, you get 130~ for beating someone on your rank) irony? | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: good luck with the investigation He wants proof? Take a fucking look at this. There's nothing you can deny about it. Guilty as fuck, why would you even want to hear his story except for comedy purposes? He's just gonna lie his ass off. ![[image loading]](http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7664/abuseep0.jpg) | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:56 Frits wrote: why would you even want to hear his story except for comedy purposes? I don't think there is any other reason :D | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On July 23 2008 18:45 SCC-Faust wrote: He must have used hacks recently though. http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/f5da12 That is a replay that I've played with him before, and I have a lot others that were not uploaded, but to be honest he was not that great. I'd say he would peak at D+. Maybe Combat-Ex neglected him and now he wants to climb the corporate ladder the same way naughty business men do to get his deserved attention. yes, hes not great at all, and its a shame he hacked and was spotted. what a shame. i hate losing to all-ins.  | ||
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Ryot
Canada316 Posts
Anyways, what this guy does on iccup unfortunately isn't his own business, and reflects very badly on SC2GG. The most important thing in pushing Starcraft popularity as an e-sport is integrity, and this guy just doesn't have it. I remember like 5 months ago seeing a few of his vids, and I used to this he was jesus. But really after I came to TL and started learning SC more I realized...wtf? This guy is mediocre at best. What's worse is that my friends who are trying to learn the game are getting shitty advice from his videos, despite me telling them how the advice is pretty bad and he's mostly noob bashing. "But nobody else makes FPVODs!" Wrong. Not only are there others out there, but they aren't arrogant assholes and they actually show good game knowledge. Here's a few: http://www.youtube.com/user/wazdawg http://www.youtube.com/user/coky18 (I think there's more but I forgot) Not to mention that if you don't need English commentary and still want FPVODs, there's a ton of actual progamer FPVODs: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73377 tl;dr - combat is a bad reflection of any Starcraft community, and there are much better answers out there for FPVODs. | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
Facts: Combat's ego is ridiculously huge He think's he's better than he is (B-) He's actually C-C+ rank He did make it to CAN B legit Myths: He's not just a random newbie (though most of you think he is) he's not ALL that bad, his attitude totally fucks up his portrayal, his boasting makes it worse EX/Combat aren't hackers (one person doesn't reflect the whole clan?) He's not a dodger, his computer is really having problems. He gladly plays people of greater skill, I've seen him do it. In addition: SC2GG shouldn't be liable for him abusing on ICCUP. His FPVODS are good for beginners (he does say some basic basic knowledge), and more importantly he's the only (constant) supply of FP Vods with commentary. Most of the advice he says isnt going to HINDER your gameplay, but its not anything ADVANCED. I dont understand what the big deal is, so he thinks hes a lot better than he is, there are million of people that are like this. Why cant we collectively ignore it, it's not like he's being BM towards ANY of us? | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
[Who cares if it's voluntarily? His advice is fucking worthless, he doesn't know shit about the game. Second of all he isn't doing it to do us a service, he just likes to attention whore, he's done fuck all for the community. He isn't doing anything for the community because he's too fucking shitty to do anything for the community, he's just some d+ guy who abused to B- and is now giving terrible advice. Christ even I could own shit out of his pathetic protoss. Well, considering that thousands of people who watch his videos, D- n00bs or not, that's still thousands of more people watching starcraft. They're also thousands of people who are probably tuning into the GomTV Intel Classic every weekend and boosting ratings for Gretech - whom, I might add, is currently paying Nick Plott, a TL icon, a fair wage to live a fucking dream and cast Starcraft in English to everyone. Combat could be teaching them the antithesis of good Starcraft tactics and they could be the worst players on the face of the Earth, but they're still interested in Starcraft and the ones who care about getting better will - all by themselves, I guarantee you. In the meanwhile, he's still pumping more customers directly at Tasteless, so to say he's done fuck all is perhaps a bit harsh. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 24 2008 07:41 Koltz wrote: He's not a dodger, his computer is really having problems. He gladly plays people of greater skill, I've seen him do it. Man, I would gladly play a game against Jaedong or sAviOr, where's my ticket to CAN-B? Hell, even playing a few games against a C+ on iCCup would be sweet. Could he please make another account and try playing his way to C legitimately? This means, no MSNing people with "hey lose to me so I get C-", because if he has to do that, there's no way in hell he's really C/C+. Even people like NonY, who can reach the A ranks, don't ask people to lose to them in order to skip the easy ranks. | ||
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GoShox
United States1844 Posts
On July 24 2008 06:19 Kurotoss wrote: 1. Everyone stop talking shit without knowing all the details. 2. I'm going to investigate this and make sure it's either true or not true. 3. If we do find out he has been abusing there will definitely be a consequence for Combat on both iCCup and SC2GG (I am the head over at SC2GG and a SA over at iCCup) and a formal apology on behalf of SC2GG to the community. 4. If he hasn't been abusing then I expect the same in return. EDIT: Hey Plexa, it's Edwin, would you mind closing this thread until I get the investigation finished? Thanks. The details about the abuse are right there on iCCup for everyone to see. I'm serious, go to his game list and click 'details'. That's really all you need to know to call abuse. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
Its not like he parades around saying IM B- IM BETTER THAN YOU publically Maybe he was gearing up to play gosus at the B- level before his computer broke Sigh, guess the community cant just move on So hard to ignore a child is it | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 24 2008 07:59 Koltz wrote: Its not like he parades around saying IM B- IM BETTER THAN YOU publically Have you watched his fucking FPVODs? I forced myself to watch half of one and he said repeatedly "Don't do this, it only works because I'm better than you." | ||
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