On June 23 2008 02:15 kemoryan wrote:
So I've been watching some very interesting documentaries which prove that there is no federal law in the US that forces a citizen to pay a tax for its wages (labour).

I wanted to know what you think about it (and specially americans). Did you know that people are illegally sent to jail for not paying income tax? And that the tax that you pay is not actually used to redistribute wealth or any kind of public service, but they give it to the Federal Reserve (PRIVATE financial entity) to pay the debt.

Why isn't this on your (or any other countries') mass media?
It's so spine-chilling, I mean US is supposed to represent freedom... so where's the freedom in that... and worst of all, why are there so few people who complain about it?

This is one of the documenatries:

http://www.documentarywire.com/america-from-freedom-to-fascism/

There is definitely a gray area. However, don't be fooled by these "documentaries" that are telling you it's a simple issue.

The whole thing is somewhat shaky and the law isn't clear on it. Most of the people who bitch about it are the same ones who think the Jewish banking cartel runs the world. In other words, nut cases.

Mindcrime

United States6899 Posts

June 24 2008 04:45 GMT

#66

On June 24 2008 08:04 HeadBangaa wrote:

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They'd been collecting the tax for some time at that point.

No, they hadn't.

HeadBangaa

United States6512 Posts

June 24 2008 05:10 GMT

#67

Yes, they had.

Mindcrime

United States6899 Posts

June 24 2008 05:13 GMT

#68

As I said before, the modern federal income tax was implemented in 1913 after the passage of the 16th amendment. Before that, there had not been a federal income tax since the 1895 when the manner in which that particular income tax was collected was struck down as unconstitutional.

HeadBangaa

United States6512 Posts

June 24 2008 05:17 GMT

#69

Oh you're right.

pyogenes

Brazil1401 Posts

June 24 2008 05:22 GMT

#70

On June 23 2008 06:47 Jibba wrote:

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There used to be another poster named gwho who always made threads about abolishing the fed, switching back to the gold standard, 9/11 conspiracies, magical cures for AIDS/diabetes that the government is hiding, etc. I think he got banned a couple weeks ago after another retarded 9/11 thread.

That is why we are tired with the Fed conspiracy theory talk. If this were the first time we'd seen this, there'd probably be 5x the amount of discussion and people proving you wrong.

You type much better than him, so maybe you aren't him. crabapple's post has gwho written all over it though.

yea but then again, there was tech~psylo who was into the 9/11 conspiracy shit too, and he knew a lot more about world politics than basically 99% of the people flaming him in the thread

UmmTheHobo

United States650 Posts

June 24 2008 05:30 GMT

#71

The government needs income tax to hide the fact that they have the cure for AIDS, diabetes, andromeda strain, anthrax (wtf??), cancer, sickle cell anemia, oldness, post traumatic shock, and death.

(USER WAS CANNED FOR THIS ROAST)

VabuDeltaKaiser

Germany1107 Posts

February 02 2010 01:04 GMT

#72

aaron russo researched, income taxes are illegal

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198#docid=-1656880303867390173

simply best docu out there concering this issue.
rip, aaron russo fighting, maybe this broke his neck, so watch before judge, this is serios.

jello_biafra

United Kingdom6638 Posts

February 02 2010 01:06 GMT

#73

This has been proven a myth time and time again, of course you have to pay income tax.

dcberkeley

Canada844 Posts

February 02 2010 01:13 GMT

#74

The same guy who said 9/11 was a fraud. Oh my. Why necro this thread?

Mystlord

United States10264 Posts

February 02 2010 01:23 GMT

#75

No idea who the hell is propogating this myth. Read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Oh hey look! It also says collect.

JeeJee

Canada5652 Posts

February 02 2010 01:26 GMT

#76

what a joke
i find it hilarious that people can believe something that's so easily disproven by, say, reading the damn thing yourself

vRoOk

United States1024 Posts

February 02 2010 01:32 GMT

#77

On June 23 2008 02:20 Hawk wrote:
I DONT WANNA PAY INCOME TAX, BUT I SURE LIKE USING ALL THESE PUBLIC ROADWAYS, SEWER SYSTEM, WATER, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ETC.

This is up there with the 9/11 bullshit.

QFT

United States3249 Posts

February 02 2010 02:00 GMT

#78

I guarantee you everyone in this thread saying it's real that you don't have to pay taxes are paying taxes (unless they don't have income).

United States3249 Posts

February 02 2010 02:01 GMT

#79

On February 02 2010 10:32 vRoOk wrote:

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QFT

There are many more ways you pay the government outside of income tax. A rich person who owns a mansion pays more in property tax per year than a lower-class person pays in income tax.

MamiyaOtaru

United States1687 Posts

February 02 2010 02:17 GMT

#80

On June 23 2008 02:59 Skye_MyO wrote:
I personally the view the income tax as a repugnant form of theft from the government.

I don't think it's as bad as the invisible taxation imposed on us by them printing money (bailout) which devalues the money we already have. We lose money, they get money but no one notices. At least income tax is straight forward and not hidden