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On June 24 2008 07:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: to everyone on the freakshow side of the fence:
GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP Excuse me, the Americans are trying to have a discussion here. Thanks.
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On June 24 2008 08:06 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2008 07:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: to everyone on the freakshow side of the fence:
GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP Excuse me, the Americans are trying to have a discussion here. Thanks.
maybe the americans should SHUT UP AND GO TO WORK
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On June 24 2008 08:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2008 08:06 HeadBangaa wrote:On June 24 2008 07:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: to everyone on the freakshow side of the fence:
GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP Excuse me, the Americans are trying to have a discussion here. Thanks. maybe the americans should SHUT UP AND GO TO WORK
just wow. popping nuts here huh?
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Why should I go to work when they take all my goddamn money and give it to the mexicans and welfare babies?
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On June 23 2008 02:15 kemoryan wrote:So I've been watching some very interesting documentaries which prove that there is no federal law in the US that forces a citizen to pay a tax for its wages (labour). I wanted to know what you think about it (and specially americans). Did you know that people are illegally sent to jail for not paying income tax? And that the tax that you pay is not actually used to redistribute wealth or any kind of public service, but they give it to the Federal Reserve (PRIVATE financial entity) to pay the debt. Why isn't this on your (or any other countries') mass media? It's so spine-chilling, I mean US is supposed to represent freedom... so where's the freedom in that... and worst of all, why are there so few people who complain about it? This is one of the documenatries: http://www.documentarywire.com/america-from-freedom-to-fascism/
There is definitely a gray area. However, don't be fooled by these "documentaries" that are telling you it's a simple issue.
The whole thing is somewhat shaky and the law isn't clear on it. Most of the people who bitch about it are the same ones who think the Jewish banking cartel runs the world. In other words, nut cases.
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On June 24 2008 08:04 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2008 02:39 Funchucks wrote:On June 23 2008 15:06 HeadBangaa wrote: Income tax is unapportioned and thus unconstitutional.
16th ammendment came about after the tax was already implemented: "We've become accustomed to garnering this money from you, and we'd be fucked without it at this point, so now we are going to make it officially legal. Hello # 16!"
The whole thing should be thrown out and reimplemented legally. ...such as by adding a 16th amendment to the constitution? They'd been collecting the tax for some time at that point.
No, they hadn't.
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As I said before, the modern federal income tax was implemented in 1913 after the passage of the 16th amendment. Before that, there had not been a federal income tax since the 1895 when the manner in which that particular income tax was collected was struck down as unconstitutional.
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On June 23 2008 06:47 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2008 06:30 kemoryan wrote:On June 23 2008 04:09 GeneralStan wrote:On June 23 2008 02:38 kemoryan wrote:
"2. The Internal Revenue Code is not Law There is a distinction between "positive law" and "prima facie law." Positive law is law. Prima facie law appears to be law, but isn't. The Internal Revenue Code consists of administrative rules, not law. If you examine the title page of the United States Code, you will find that some "titles" are preceded by an asterisk (*), and some not. The legend states. "* This title has been enacted as positive law." There is no asterisk in front of Title 26 (Internal Revenue Code) because Title 26 is not law.
The Internal Revenue Code couldn't be enacted into positive law, because it would violate the U.S. Constitution which prohibits direct taxes on individuals. This is one reason why the IRS resorts to deception and terror-tactics to brainwash people that they have to pay income taxes." Really, it's time for you to shut up Excuse me? I'm only trying to prove a point here with information, I hadn't read the website someone here has pointed out which proves this law truly exists (hence my point is wrong). Now that I've read it I apologize if I sounded harsh, but the documentary seemed pretty convincing. If there's something in my post wrong, the right way to answer is by proving its wrong. You should learn some basic manners man. On June 23 2008 03:32 vGl-CoW wrote: i just saw this really interesting documentary and i will defend it to the death till another documentary says something else Am I defending it to death? This is just my third post in the subject. Can't we have a decent debate without pointless ad-hominem? There used to be another poster named gwho who always made threads about abolishing the fed, switching back to the gold standard, 9/11 conspiracies, magical cures for AIDS/diabetes that the government is hiding, etc. I think he got banned a couple weeks ago after another retarded 9/11 thread. That is why we are tired with the Fed conspiracy theory talk. If this were the first time we'd seen this, there'd probably be 5x the amount of discussion and people proving you wrong.  You type much better than him, so maybe you aren't him. crabapple's post has gwho written all over it though.
yea but then again, there was tech~psylo who was into the 9/11 conspiracy shit too, and he knew a lot more about world politics than basically 99% of the people flaming him in the thread
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The government needs income tax to hide the fact that they have the cure for AIDS, diabetes, andromeda strain, anthrax (wtf??), cancer, sickle cell anemia, oldness, post traumatic shock, and death.
(USER WAS CANNED FOR THIS ROAST)
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This has been proven a myth time and time again, of course you have to pay income tax.
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The same guy who said 9/11 was a fraud. Oh my. Why necro this thread?
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Mystlord
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what a joke i find it hilarious that people can believe something that's so easily disproven by, say, reading the damn thing yourself
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On June 23 2008 02:20 Hawk wrote: I DONT WANNA PAY INCOME TAX, BUT I SURE LIKE USING ALL THESE PUBLIC ROADWAYS, SEWER SYSTEM, WATER, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ETC.
This is up there with the 9/11 bullshit.
QFT
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I guarantee you everyone in this thread saying it's real that you don't have to pay taxes are paying taxes (unless they don't have income).
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On February 02 2010 10:32 vRoOk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2008 02:20 Hawk wrote: I DONT WANNA PAY INCOME TAX, BUT I SURE LIKE USING ALL THESE PUBLIC ROADWAYS, SEWER SYSTEM, WATER, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ETC.
This is up there with the 9/11 bullshit. QFT
There are many more ways you pay the government outside of income tax. A rich person who owns a mansion pays more in property tax per year than a lower-class person pays in income tax.
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On June 23 2008 02:59 Skye_MyO wrote: I personally the view the income tax as a repugnant form of theft from the government. I don't think it's as bad as the invisible taxation imposed on us by them printing money (bailout) which devalues the money we already have. We lose money, they get money but no one notices. At least income tax is straight forward and not hidden
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