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HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
June 23 2008 23:06 GMT
#61
On June 24 2008 07:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
to everyone on the freakshow side of the fence:

GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP

Excuse me, the Americans are trying to have a discussion here. Thanks.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 23 2008 23:37 GMT
#62
On June 24 2008 08:06 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2008 07:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
to everyone on the freakshow side of the fence:

GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP

Excuse me, the Americans are trying to have a discussion here. Thanks.


maybe the americans should SHUT UP AND GO TO WORK
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
memmypoker
Profile Joined May 2008
119 Posts
June 23 2008 23:52 GMT
#63
On June 24 2008 08:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2008 08:06 HeadBangaa wrote:
On June 24 2008 07:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
to everyone on the freakshow side of the fence:

GO TO WORK AND SHUT UP

Excuse me, the Americans are trying to have a discussion here. Thanks.


maybe the americans should SHUT UP AND GO TO WORK


just wow. popping nuts here huh?
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
June 24 2008 00:06 GMT
#64
Why should I go to work when they take all my goddamn money and give it to the mexicans and welfare babies?
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
June 24 2008 00:45 GMT
#65
On June 23 2008 02:15 kemoryan wrote:
So I've been watching some very interesting documentaries which prove that there is no federal law in the US that forces a citizen to pay a tax for its wages (labour).

I wanted to know what you think about it (and specially americans). Did you know that people are illegally sent to jail for not paying income tax? And that the tax that you pay is not actually used to redistribute wealth or any kind of public service, but they give it to the Federal Reserve (PRIVATE financial entity) to pay the debt.

Why isn't this on your (or any other countries') mass media?
It's so spine-chilling, I mean US is supposed to represent freedom... so where's the freedom in that... and worst of all, why are there so few people who complain about it?


This is one of the documenatries:

http://www.documentarywire.com/america-from-freedom-to-fascism/


There is definitely a gray area. However, don't be fooled by these "documentaries" that are telling you it's a simple issue.

The whole thing is somewhat shaky and the law isn't clear on it. Most of the people who bitch about it are the same ones who think the Jewish banking cartel runs the world. In other words, nut cases.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 24 2008 04:45 GMT
#66
On June 24 2008 08:04 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2008 02:39 Funchucks wrote:
On June 23 2008 15:06 HeadBangaa wrote:
Income tax is unapportioned and thus unconstitutional.

16th ammendment came about after the tax was already implemented: "We've become accustomed to garnering this money from you, and we'd be fucked without it at this point, so now we are going to make it officially legal. Hello # 16!"

The whole thing should be thrown out and reimplemented legally.

...such as by adding a 16th amendment to the constitution?

They'd been collecting the tax for some time at that point.


No, they hadn't.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
June 24 2008 05:10 GMT
#67
Yes, they had.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 24 2008 05:13 GMT
#68
As I said before, the modern federal income tax was implemented in 1913 after the passage of the 16th amendment. Before that, there had not been a federal income tax since the 1895 when the manner in which that particular income tax was collected was struck down as unconstitutional.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
June 24 2008 05:17 GMT
#69
Oh you're right.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
pyogenes
Profile Joined May 2003
Brazil1401 Posts
June 24 2008 05:22 GMT
#70
On June 23 2008 06:47 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2008 06:30 kemoryan wrote:
On June 23 2008 04:09 GeneralStan wrote:
On June 23 2008 02:38 kemoryan wrote:


"2. The Internal Revenue Code is not Law
There is a distinction between "positive law" and "prima facie law." Positive law is law. Prima facie law appears to be law, but isn't. The Internal Revenue Code consists of administrative rules, not law. If you examine the title page of the United States Code, you will find that some "titles" are preceded by an asterisk (*), and some not. The legend states. "* This title has been enacted as positive law." There is no asterisk in front of Title 26 (Internal Revenue Code) because Title 26 is not law.

The Internal Revenue Code couldn't be enacted into positive law, because it would violate the U.S. Constitution which prohibits direct taxes on individuals. This is one reason why the IRS resorts to deception and terror-tactics to brainwash people that they have to pay income taxes."


Really, it's time for you to shut up


Excuse me?


I'm only trying to prove a point here with information, I hadn't read the website someone here has pointed out which proves this law truly exists (hence my point is wrong). Now that I've read it I apologize if I sounded harsh, but the documentary seemed pretty convincing.

If there's something in my post wrong, the right way to answer is by proving its wrong.
You should learn some basic manners man.

On June 23 2008 03:32 vGl-CoW wrote:
i just saw this really interesting documentary and i will defend it to the death till another documentary says something else



Am I defending it to death? This is just my third post in the subject.

Can't we have a decent debate without pointless ad-hominem?
There used to be another poster named gwho who always made threads about abolishing the fed, switching back to the gold standard, 9/11 conspiracies, magical cures for AIDS/diabetes that the government is hiding, etc. I think he got banned a couple weeks ago after another retarded 9/11 thread.

That is why we are tired with the Fed conspiracy theory talk. If this were the first time we'd seen this, there'd probably be 5x the amount of discussion and people proving you wrong.

You type much better than him, so maybe you aren't him. crabapple's post has gwho written all over it though.


yea but then again, there was tech~psylo who was into the 9/11 conspiracy shit too, and he knew a lot more about world politics than basically 99% of the people flaming him in the thread
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
June 24 2008 05:30 GMT
#71
The government needs income tax to hide the fact that they have the cure for AIDS, diabetes, andromeda strain, anthrax (wtf??), cancer, sickle cell anemia, oldness, post traumatic shock, and death.




(USER WAS CANNED FOR THIS ROAST)
...
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
February 02 2010 01:04 GMT
#72
aaron russo researched, income taxes are illegal

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198#docid=-1656880303867390173

simply best docu out there concering this issue.
rip, aaron russo fighting, maybe this broke his neck, so watch before judge, this is serios.
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
February 02 2010 01:06 GMT
#73
This has been proven a myth time and time again, of course you have to pay income tax.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
February 02 2010 01:13 GMT
#74
The same guy who said 9/11 was a fraud. Oh my. Why necro this thread?
Moktira is da bomb
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 02 2010 01:23 GMT
#75
No idea who the hell is propogating this myth. Read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.


Oh hey look! It also says collect.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 01:26:25
February 02 2010 01:26 GMT
#76
what a joke
i find it hilarious that people can believe something that's so easily disproven by, say, reading the damn thing yourself
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
February 02 2010 01:32 GMT
#77
On June 23 2008 02:20 Hawk wrote:
I DONT WANNA PAY INCOME TAX, BUT I SURE LIKE USING ALL THESE PUBLIC ROADWAYS, SEWER SYSTEM, WATER, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ETC.

This is up there with the 9/11 bullshit.


QFT
Breaking Bad
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
February 02 2010 02:00 GMT
#78
I guarantee you everyone in this thread saying it's real that you don't have to pay taxes are paying taxes (unless they don't have income).
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
February 02 2010 02:01 GMT
#79
On February 02 2010 10:32 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2008 02:20 Hawk wrote:
I DONT WANNA PAY INCOME TAX, BUT I SURE LIKE USING ALL THESE PUBLIC ROADWAYS, SEWER SYSTEM, WATER, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ETC.

This is up there with the 9/11 bullshit.


QFT


There are many more ways you pay the government outside of income tax. A rich person who owns a mansion pays more in property tax per year than a lower-class person pays in income tax.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
February 02 2010 02:17 GMT
#80
On June 23 2008 02:59 Skye_MyO wrote:
I personally the view the income tax as a repugnant form of theft from the government.

I don't think it's as bad as the invisible taxation imposed on us by them printing money (bailout) which devalues the money we already have. We lose money, they get money but no one notices. At least income tax is straight forward and not hidden
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