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Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 07 2008 19:31 GMT
#781
Wait... I'm confused.

Who is the giant douche, and who is the turd sandwich?
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 07 2008 19:39 GMT
#782
haha, i chuckled hawk
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 07 2008 19:49 GMT
#783
On March 08 2008 04:28 Hawk wrote:
Somethin I swiped from my friend's away message. Dunno where he got it from, but it's pretty funny.

Clinton's path to the nomination, then, involves the following steps: kneecap an eloquent, inspiring, reform-minded young leader who happens to be the first serious African American presidential candidate (meanwhile cementing her own reputation for Nixonian ruthlessness) and then win a contested convention by persuading party elites to override the results at the polls. The plan may also involve trying to seat the Michigan and Florida delegations, after having explicitly agreed that the results would not count toward delegate totals. Oh, and her campaign has periodically hinted that some of Obama's elected delegates might break off and support her. I don't think she'd be in a position to defeat Hitler's dog in November, let alone a popular war hero.


QFT

Also, a source concerning pledged delegate poaching:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
March 07 2008 20:19 GMT
#784
There's not much Clinton can do at this point without dirty politics. According to some news articles I've read in order to erase Obama's lead in pledged delegates by the convention she would have to win every contest from here on out at 80% to 90% of the vote. It simply can't happen. The only way Clinton can win the nomination is if she convinces the superdelegates to override the will of the people or Barack Obama drops dead.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 07 2008 20:24 GMT
#785
IMO, this really exemplifies how much of a 'team player' she is. She could give a flying fuck about the party, she just wants to go down in history as the first chic in office. Whoopty doo.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 07 2008 20:28 GMT
#786
btw hawk, i was reading my usual political sites and i came across the original article for that quote

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=ba30ff16-a5af-4035-a883-cf15ffee406c
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 07 2008 20:38 GMT
#787
that's a really good article.

man eveyrthing is pissing me off more and more about this election. id have never guessed 6 months ago that the republicans would have a prayer, but more and more, it looks like they've got a good shot because of hsit like that
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Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-07 21:10:30
March 07 2008 20:39 GMT
#788
Considering how unpopular Bush is now, and how his stink sticks to the whole Republican party, the Democrats ought to be coasting.

What do they do? After sending forth white men since forever, they suddenly put up a woman vs. a young black man, leaving little doubt in the public mind that the woman was chosen for her sex, and the man was chosen for his race, and then let them fight it out in nasty backstabbing contest.

Meanwhile, the Republicans quietly and calmly present their distinguished war hero and experienced statesman. (...who, for those calculating PC armor points, is a cripple, but not in a blatant, unsightly way)

I'm not seeing a Democrat in the White House this time around.

So, the big question is: who ever thought it would be a good idea to support an ex-First-Lady as a presidential candidate? Let alone her.

edit: And Jesus Christ... Barack Hussein Obama, son of an immigrant, who spent years of his childhood in Islam-dominated Indonesia, is now a member of a self-proclaimed "Africentric" church, and looks like a dorky kid.

Just a poster of him grinning his dorky grin, with "Barack Hussein Obama, son of a Kenyan, raised in Indonesia, worships at the "Africentric" Trinity Church" underneath ought to be enough to torpedo his whole campaign. Who really thinks he has a shot in the popular election?

Can you imagine any candidate having a hope in hell if he went to a church that openly advertised racial exclusivity? Do people think this is just not going to come up?

Just look at their nuttiness and racial divisiveness: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

For that matter, "Mrs. Clinton: Why elect a President, when you can elect a President's wife?"

Argblarbalrbg... ISN'T THIS SHIT OBVIOUS TO THEM?
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 07 2008 21:06 GMT
#789
Heh, I've been saying that for liek the last 4 or 5 months. I'm all for a change, but it's time to right the ship first.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-07 21:40:36
March 07 2008 21:34 GMT
#790
On March 08 2008 05:39 Funchucks wrote:
lolwut

i lol'd. we are not in kansas ne more buddy. military people are generally not serious political theorists, and women actually have separate existences from their husbands. quite a surprise, yah
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
March 08 2008 00:50 GMT
#791
@Funchucks- the democrats also had a slew of white candidates, all of whom had good credentials. Edwards, for example, is a classic presidential candidate. Clinton and Obama just proved themselves better candidates, and it has very little to do with their race/gender.

Regarding the "electibility" issue- all the polls I've seen have shown Clinton vs. McCain as a virtual tie, and Obama vs. McCain as a pretty clear win for Obama. So no... the democrats aren't as stupid as you seem to think.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 08 2008 01:16 GMT
#792
On March 08 2008 09:50 Luddite wrote:
@Funchucks- the democrats also had a slew of white candidates, all of whom had good credentials. Edwards, for example, is a classic presidential candidate. Clinton and Obama just proved themselves better candidates, and it has very little to do with their race/gender.

C'mon. Seriously.

Democrats who didn't like Hillary went, "Oh shi... The First Woman President has a hell of a ring to it. We can't just push some ordinary white dude. We need a hook like that!"

Democrats who didn't like Obama went, "Oh fu... The First Black President is going to be hard to beat. We need our own gimmick!"

And so all of the Democrats who hated the turd sandwich rallied behind the giant douche, and vice versa.

Regarding the "electibility" issue- all the polls I've seen have shown Clinton vs. McCain as a virtual tie, and Obama vs. McCain as a pretty clear win for Obama. So no... the democrats aren't as stupid as you seem to think.

Those polls are meaningless. The campaigning for the real election hasn't begun. The general population doesn't know anything about the candidates and isn't very interested yet.

If Obama wins this, and it looks like he will, believe me you're going to be hearing a lot about Barack Hussein Obama, who was raised in Islamic Indonesia, whose father was not even American, and who worships at the afrocentric Trinity Church, assuming that's not just a pose for his true Muslim beliefs.

Remember swiftboating?

Presidents are not chosen for their merits. Non-presidents are disqualified for the doubts they raise. Nobody wanted Bush or Kerry, but Kerry looked weaker and less honest.

Once the digging starts, Obama's background is going to kill him, and McCain's is going to make him stronger.
I serve my houseguests slices of butter.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-08 01:34:17
March 08 2008 01:34 GMT
#793
Karl Rove's not around anymore, remember?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 08 2008 02:11 GMT
#794
so....Now that its obvious that clinton's party made the nafta comment....

its not getting any air time

how strange
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 08 2008 03:31 GMT
#795
On March 08 2008 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
so....Now that its obvious that clinton's party made the nafta comment....

its not getting any air time

how strange


Which nafta comment? *confused* :o
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 08 2008 03:33 GMT
#796
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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
March 08 2008 03:43 GMT
#797
On March 08 2008 05:39 Funchucks wrote:
Just a poster of him grinning his dorky grin, with "Barack Hussein Obama, son of a Kenyan, raised in Indonesia, worships at the "Africentric" Trinity Church" underneath ought to be enough to torpedo his whole campaign. Who really thinks he has a shot in the popular election?

Can you imagine any candidate having a hope in hell if he went to a church that openly advertised racial exclusivity? Do people think this is just not going to come up?


Yeah, it is going to bother people who are already Republicans. If they make an issue out of it, it could backfire with independents, who I think are far more interested policy, in general.

Using his middle name and blackness as an attack may not appeal to all the people who voted for Bush in 04, as mentally challenged as they may be.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
March 08 2008 03:46 GMT
#798
There was a website where you answered questions and the result matched you up with the best candidate. I lost the link. Anyone have it?

It's the one with liek 25 or 30 questions.
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Chronofox
Profile Joined February 2008
United States8 Posts
March 08 2008 03:54 GMT
#799
On March 08 2008 12:43 Servolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2008 05:39 Funchucks wrote:
Just a poster of him grinning his dorky grin, with "Barack Hussein Obama, son of a Kenyan, raised in Indonesia, worships at the "Africentric" Trinity Church" underneath ought to be enough to torpedo his whole campaign. Who really thinks he has a shot in the popular election?

Can you imagine any candidate having a hope in hell if he went to a church that openly advertised racial exclusivity? Do people think this is just not going to come up?


Yeah, it is going to bother people who are already Republicans. If they make an issue out of it, it could backfire with independents, who I think are far more interested policy, in general.

Using his middle name and blackness as an attack may not appeal to all the people who voted for Bush in 04, as mentally challenged as they may be.


His father being a Muslim from Indonesia is fair game for the Republicans, but they wouldn't dare pull the race card.
The best way to cheer yourself up is to try to cheer somebody else up. -Mark Twain
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 08 2008 04:00 GMT
#800
On March 08 2008 12:54 Chronofox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2008 12:43 Servolisk wrote:
On March 08 2008 05:39 Funchucks wrote:
Just a poster of him grinning his dorky grin, with "Barack Hussein Obama, son of a Kenyan, raised in Indonesia, worships at the "Africentric" Trinity Church" underneath ought to be enough to torpedo his whole campaign. Who really thinks he has a shot in the popular election?

Can you imagine any candidate having a hope in hell if he went to a church that openly advertised racial exclusivity? Do people think this is just not going to come up?


Yeah, it is going to bother people who are already Republicans. If they make an issue out of it, it could backfire with independents, who I think are far more interested policy, in general.

Using his middle name and blackness as an attack may not appeal to all the people who voted for Bush in 04, as mentally challenged as they may be.


His father being a Muslim from Indonesia is fair game for the Republicans, but they wouldn't dare pull the race card.

How about the racial supremacist card?

This is his church: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
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