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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 15 2008 01:43 GMT
#441
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 15 2008 02:24 GMT
#442
Er, so what would happen if she wins Ohio, Pennsylvania, and maybe Wisconsin... Are those take all states?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 15 2008 02:38 GMT
#443
a few articles i've read suggest that she needs those to win those states just to have a chance. so, if obama can pull an upset in of them, perhaps the deal is sealed.

in other, unsurprising, news, romney has "endorsed" mccain
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
February 15 2008 05:05 GMT
#444
On February 15 2008 11:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Er, so what would happen if she wins Ohio, Pennsylvania, and maybe Wisconsin... Are those take all states?


As far as I know, no states are winner take all in the democratic race.

The margin of victory matters a lot. Obama's wins have been especially devastating because he won with 60%+ (70%+ in some even).

For OH/PN/TX, it's not just a matter of winning, but how much she wins by. A 51%-49% win won't do her much good.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-15 05:15:46
February 15 2008 05:15 GMT
#445
Still, with the race so close I'd rather see him beat her. Not come in close.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 15 2008 22:44 GMT
#446
Just noticed that according to RCP.com, Obama could actually beat McCain in a national election, where as Clinton would lose.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
February 15 2008 23:05 GMT
#447
On February 15 2008 10:43 fusionsdf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67lCVYqKvJE


Obama-O'Brien ticket would rock!
wtf was that signature
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 16 2008 06:43 GMT
#448
I really don't like Obama being behind in three states, lets hope his supporters in those states are working overtime. Pennsylvania and Ohio could swing it back to Clinton
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
February 16 2008 06:49 GMT
#449
i'm not sure if any of those states would even be getting polled yet if clinton hadn't opted hard for the giuliani strategy.

i'm worried as well, but i think the current polls have little meaning seeing as obama hasn't even begun campaigning in any of them yet. as has been said many times by obamas campaign, he does better once people get to meet him and know him. i think we'll get a better gauge of those future states once there's been a week or two of earnest campaigning there.

the debates will be crucial, first one is on the 21st and clintons chomping at the bit to start it. who knows what she'll pull in that debate and how it will go.
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
February 16 2008 14:02 GMT
#450
dbl post but clinton's starting to go really negative.

if obama somehow beats her it isn't going to be pretty, if she goes down it will be with fire and brimstone and he'll probably come out of it in need of an ambulance..
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-16 14:22:35
February 16 2008 14:19 GMT
#451
--- Nuked ---
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
February 16 2008 14:46 GMT
#452
hahahahaha if there's something you'd like to say here, there's probably never a better venue than right now
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 17 2008 01:36 GMT
#453
Obama knocks Clinton for ties to lobbyists
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 17 2008 20:54 GMT
#454
On February 16 2008 23:19 LaZyScV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2008 10:43 fusionsdf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67lCVYqKvJE


Dude, you left out the best part:



Oh snap moment in that video, I was surprised.
I liked his joke as well.


Obama should have been less subtle and told the joke:

"sometimes he calls me bama. Sometimes he just calls me rock. Sometimes hes just says bama rock"

would have been more obvious. If you dont get it, read it out loud.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
February 17 2008 21:00 GMT
#455
lol ^-^ (it took me a while to get it ;p)
wtf was that signature
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-17 22:46:10
February 17 2008 22:45 GMT
#456

Hillary Clinton Reigns as Queen of Federal Pork: Kevin Hassett

Commentary by Kevin Hassett

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Oct. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Democrats came into power this year promising meaningful earmark reform to a U.S. electorate that was rightly disgusted with Congress's free-spending habits. Today, earmarks continue to be out of control, and the predictable result is that the Democratic Congress is now even less popular in national polls than the Republican one before it.

There is an underappreciated angle to the story of how lawmakers steer federal funds toward their pet projects that may yet swing the next presidential election. Democrats have been so busy preparing the coronation of Hillary Clinton that they have failed to train a critical eye on her record.

When it comes to earmarks, an issue that voters responded to more than any other in the last election except for Iraq, her record is about as bad as it gets. If Dennis Hastert was the king of earmarks, Hillary Clinton was his queen. Republicans had their ``bridge to nowhere.'' Hillary has her knitting mill.

The statistics speak for themselves. Ever since she arrived in Washington, Hillary has worked tirelessly to bring the pork home to her adopted state, New York. It used to be that such efforts were cloaked in secrecy. No longer.

To their credit, the Democrats made earmarks a central issue in the 2006 campaign and helped pass a series of reforms. Today, all earmarks are publicized in an online record which, most importantly, identifies the name of the member who submitted each request. Numerous online watchdog databases have since popped up, notably ``Taxpayers for Common Sense,'' which provides a directory of every earmark request for 2008 appropriations bills.

Oddly, this transparency has had a big effect on the Republican presidential candidates, but not on the Democrats.

Nothing to Hide

Among the presidential candidates, many Republicans currently holding office have responded to media requests to make public all their earmarks, including Representatives Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo. (Senator John McCain notably claims to not submit any such requests). They presumably have done so because they have nothing to hide.

On the Democratic side, however, the major candidates have been much less forthright.

Only Barack Obama has voluntarily made his earmark information publicly available. The others are covering their tracks. Senator Joe Biden's spokeswoman explained, ``We don't release them until the committee has had the opportunity to review the requests.'' A spokeswoman for the Dennis Kucinich campaign argued, ``We never have made our earmarks public.''

The Clinton campaign refused to respond at all to requests that she identify her earmarks.

Top Earmarker

A little digging shows why they are so evasive. In fiscal year 2006, Chris Dodd and fellow Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman were jointly responsible for more than $100 million worth of earmarks for their home state, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

Yet Clinton, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, placed $2.2 billion worth of earmarks in spending bills from 2002-2006. One would have to concede that she is good at it. In the fiscal 2008 defense-spending bill alone, Clinton successfully attached 26 earmarks worth $148 million, which was the most of any Democrat except Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, who is now chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

The earmark game is a treacherous one because it is so easy to find specific instances, like the bridge to nowhere in Alaska, that are repulsive to voters. With such a successful track record, this will be a genuine liability for Clinton.

Bury the Record

That probably explains why she's trying to bury her record. But even digging through the limited list of earmarks I could acquire suggested that Clinton has deftly spread federal taxpayers' money around to parochial projects of questionable public value, sending, for example, $250,000 to the Seneca Knitting Mill, and $200,000 to the Buffalo Urban Arts Center.

Such spending projects might be great local politics, but they produce national outrage as our federal dollars are bled away from health care and national security. Each one may seem small, but collectively they are not.

Clinton might want to join Robert Rubin on the high horse of fiscal discipline and rail against Republican deficits. But if she is the queen of pork, she loses her moral authority.

Make no mistake, voters are disgusted with our government. Clinton's biggest political liability has always been that she, the ultimate insider, may not be able to run as a credible agent of change. The earmark numbers are important, because an able opponent can accurately portray her pork barrel record as shameful. How can someone who is one of the biggest contributors to the problem be part of the cure?

If Democrats aren't careful, voters will ask themselves that question in the general election. It seems unlikely that the Republican nominee will have a pork-stained past. If so, Democrats may regret giving Clinton a free pass on the earmark issue during the primaries.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aXWIZU3DOyr4&refer=home
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 18 2008 03:15 GMT
#457
Any updated polls on how Obama is doing in the upcoming primaries, I read that he was meeting with Edwards in Carolina.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-18 03:22:16
February 18 2008 03:21 GMT
#458
i think the major polls maybe don't report on the weekends..

either way he's only a slight favorite in wisconsin, i really think the media has overplayed his advantage there. could go either way.

polls in ohio/TX don't really matter because obama hasn't even started campaigning there yet.

edit: i'm assuming you read RCP.com so i won't bother quoting their polls
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
February 18 2008 03:24 GMT
#459
On February 18 2008 12:21 a-game wrote:
polls in ohio/TX don't really matter because obama hasn't even started campaigning there yet.


He has started campaigning in Ohio. I saw my first Obama commercial on a local station just an hour ago.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-18 03:31:04
February 18 2008 03:29 GMT
#460
ok well by campaigning i meant going to the state and actually campaigning.

edit: once the candidates come to your state let us know if you go to any of their events
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
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