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mewtwoforyou
3 Posts
i like all of the eu na pros that stream and i watched dreamhack NA recently and really loved and impressed by how exciting and entertaining players like astrea are i wanna know who are the best players are outside of korea because im not that interested in korean players and prefer foreigners because their personalities are so entertaining and fun to watch so i wanna cheer for them all i know is astrea and heromarine, are they among the best? | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
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SenorChang
Australia4730 Posts
On August 25 2020 20:47 MockHamill wrote: You are in luck. The best player on the planet is a foreigner called Serral. don't lie to the newbie, the best player is me. | ||
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Exedo
8 Posts
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followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
On August 25 2020 20:44 mewtwoforyou wrote: hi..im new sc2 fan and i got hooked on watching the game i like all of the eu na pros that stream and i watched dreamhack NA recently and really loved and impressed by how exciting and entertaining players like astrea are i wanna know who are the best players are outside of korea because im not that interested in korean players and prefer foreigners because their personalities are so entertaining and fun to watch so i wanna cheer for them all i know is astrea and heromarine, are they among the best? Nice to have you! Nee blood is always more then welcome. My list of best EU players would be consisted of : Terran : 1.Clem, 2.HeroMarine, 3. SouL, 4. Uthermal, 5. MarineLorD Hot prospects : Milkicow, AqueroN, Arctur, Cuku. Also, Kas is pretty god as old guard. Protoss: 1. ShowTime, 2. PtitDrogo, 3. Harstem, 4. MaNa, 5. Skillous. Hot prospects : MaxPax, arrogfire, goblin Spatz. Hellraiser and Gerald are close to top5. Zerg : 1. Reynor, 2. Serral, 3. Elazer, 4. Lambo, 5. Vanya/Denver. Hot prospects : souleer, garitos, kiyj. Also, Bly, SortOf and Stephano are really good with chance that former best EU pro Stephano make comeback if he is active. I probably forgot someone but scene is active and there are many good players we dont even know. Like, guy named Battle, german terran made impressive run in 3rd qualifier, almost qualifying. I dont know much about NA scene, someone will do it better then me for sure. | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On August 25 2020 20:44 mewtwoforyou wrote: hi..im new sc2 fan and i got hooked on watching the game i like all of the eu na pros that stream and i watched dreamhack NA recently and really loved and impressed by how exciting and entertaining players like astrea are i wanna know who are the best players are outside of korea because im not that interested in korean players and prefer foreigners because their personalities are so entertaining and fun to watch so i wanna cheer for them all i know is astrea and heromarine, are they among the best? Serral and Reynor are the best foreigners by quite a big margin. And then you have the 2nd tier foreigners but still very, very good like Heromarine, Clem, Showtime, Special, Astrea, Neeb... | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden592 Posts
There are a lot of players at the top. This year has been more even than most. Serral is not expected to win EVERY tournament. Reynor is losing to more players than Serral and Koreans. Newer players are performing really well (Astrea and Clem being 2 examples). Veteran players have had some hot streaks. Exciting times for fans of non-Koreans. | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
Clem , Heromarine and uThermal seems equally a bit sharper than other foreigner terrans. For zerg there is basically only Serral and Reynor, there are many others very good players but they are all clearly below the two previously mentioned. Foreign sc2 is in a really great place right now, hope you will enjoy your time with the game! | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
1Reynor 2Serral 3Clem 4Heromarine 5Showtime 6Elazer 7Special 8uThermal 9Astrea 10Lambo 11Neeb 12Scarlett Player to look out for in the near future: MaxPax | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
aligulac.com Here is the current top foreigners. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/AGPkyqN.png) Here you can see who wins premier tournaments. liquipedia.net | ||
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
Best foreigner is Serral though^^ | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26542 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On August 25 2020 22:17 Shuffleblade wrote: For foreign protoss players I just want to chip and say that in my opinion Astrea, Showtime and Mana are really ahead of the pack. We also have ptitdrogo randomly appearing in top form every year or so and potentially being the best foreign protoss. Then generally immediately dropping off the face of the earth a month or so later. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On August 26 2020 00:17 travis wrote: We also have ptitdrogo randomly appearing in top form every year or so and potentially being the best foreign protoss. Then generally immediately dropping off the face of the earth a month or so later. Drogo is like Rogue with lower peaks, instead of winning GSL or Kato, he gets a top 4 in DH EU  Both are realy inconsistent | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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sneakyfox
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
because im not that interested in korean players and prefer foreigners because their personalities are so entertaining and fun to watch ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/UzUNVGq.jpg) | ||
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Poopi
France12911 Posts
These two best foreigner players, Serral and Reynor, are heads and shoulders ahead of the other foreigners, although still mortal, and are toe to toe with the best Korean players. Astrea is a very good NA Protoss player that went and trained in Korea for some time iirc. His results in War Chest Team League are a bit inflated by having the best ping advantage against every opponent iirc, and he has less experience than Neeb, another NA Protoss player, who was the best foreigner in 2017 and stayed top 2 or top 3 foreign Protoss ever since (and probably between top 3 and top 8 among foreigners). Clem is a very promising young French terran, probably more skilled than HeroMarine (according to HM) at the moment, but with less experience so his performances have more variance. Overall the aligulac list is good, but does not really take into account (afaik) the stakes of the games played, so the EPT points list is probably more accurate to gauge the foreigners, even though the sample size is still a bit low. Welcome to StarCraft 2 esport  it’s a good spectators game | ||
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mewtwoforyou
3 Posts
hi, i don't mean this in offensive way and i probably need to word that better its just i used to be casual league of legends fan and i stop watching it in 2017 and i don't like 1-2 country dominate the game it make it so boring to watch when i have no one cheer for, especially home town players and teams | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4072 Posts
On August 25 2020 20:44 mewtwoforyou wrote: hi..im new sc2 fan and i got hooked on watching the game i like all of the eu na pros that stream and i watched dreamhack NA recently and really loved and impressed by how exciting and entertaining players like astrea are i wanna know who are the best players are outside of korea because im not that interested in korean players and prefer foreigners because their personalities are so entertaining and fun to watch so i wanna cheer for them all i know is astrea and heromarine, are they among the best? Mate im sorry but your post looks suspiciously trolling to me. Like your "back story" doesn't even make sense, really. | ||
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slant
Romania95 Posts
In the NA scene, which I'm not as involved in but still now a bit, Astrea's been making a big splash and Future isn't somebody to forget either. PiLiPiLi also just managed to win a ESL America's cup and he seems somebody to watch out for. Nina is in good form as well. As for streamers, Gabe (HeRoMaRinE) streams almost daily, and Lambo, Harstem, uThermal, Elazer, and ShoWTimE stream pretty regularly as well. I heavily recommend to check out Harstem's youtube channel if you haven't already, and uThermal also posts really informative guides. Really almost everybody in the sc2 scene right now is a likable personality, whether you're foreign or Korean. PartinG's streams are absolutely hilarious, and TY and RagnaroK have youtube channels that have english subtitles for some of their videos. | ||
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mewtwoforyou
3 Posts
On August 26 2020 02:25 slant wrote: Reynor and Serral are the 2 best foreigners right now by far. To the point where I (saying this with complete and utter bias) think that if either of them were to be flown to Korea right now they'd win a GSL. Clem and HeRoMaRinE are still incredibly good, and ShoWTimE is also definitely up there for EU scene. MaxPax is a name to watch out for, now and in the future, as he just turned 16 and he's also 6.8k MMR. In the NA scene, which I'm not as involved in but still now a bit, Astrea's been making a big splash and Future isn't somebody to forget either. PiLiPiLi also just managed to win a ESL America's cup and he seems somebody to watch out for. Nina is in good form as well. As for streamers, Gabe (HeRoMaRinE) streams almost daily, and Lambo, Harstem, uThermal, Elazer, and ShoWTimE stream pretty regularly as well. I heavily recommend to check out Harstem's youtube channel if you haven't already, and uThermal also posts really informative guides. Really almost everybody in the sc2 scene right now is a likable personality, whether you're foreign or Korean. PartinG's streams are absolutely hilarious, and TY and RagnaroK have youtube channels that have english subtitles for some of their videos. yes i love heromarine! | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On August 25 2020 20:44 mewtwoforyou wrote: im not that interested in korean players and prefer foreigners because their personalities are so entertaining and fun to watch so i wanna cheer for them Are u sure you are new? thats a pretty old thinking | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States684 Posts
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On August 26 2020 04:16 Argonauta wrote: Are u sure you are new? thats a pretty old thinking Goddamn faceless koreans I'm telling you | ||
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Starcloud
138 Posts
On August 25 2020 21:32 followZeRoX wrote: [ Nice to have you! Nee blood is always more then welcome. My list of best EU players would be consisted of : Terran : 1.Clem, 2.HeroMarine, 3. SouL, 4. Uthermal, 5. MarineLorD Hot prospects : Milkicow, AqueroN, Arctur, Cuku. Also, Kas is pretty god as old guard. Protoss: 1. ShowTime, 2. PtitDrogo, 3. Harstem, 4. MaNa, 5. Skillous. Hot prospects : MaxPax, arrogfire, goblin Spatz. Hellraiser and Gerald are close to top5. Zerg : 1. Reynor, 2. Serral, 3. Elazer, 4. Lambo, 5. Vanya/Denver. Hot prospects : souleer, garitos, kiyj. Also, Bly, SortOf and Stephano are really good with chance that former best EU pro Stephano make comeback if he is active. This is a pretty good list of the best European players atm. Of course Serral is still better than Raynor, but otherwise accurate  . Like others have said, Serral and Raynor are above rest but especially HeroMarine and Clem are giving them a good fight whenever they meet up. What goes to American scene, it has been mostly all about Neeb, Special and Scarlett, who have been able to perform well in tournaments. There are rising talents there for sure like Astrea, but others can open that scene better than me. Generally the American scene is sadly lot smaller and not that competitive compared to Europe. From Asia we have few names who show up; Chinese player Time has been somewhat a rising star for few years now. He has still room for improvement and when he has a good day he can compete with the best. Pretty inconsistent though. Then there is a legend from Taiwan called Has. His only "tactic" is cheesing, but it can many times bring you very entertaining games. Its very hit or miss though. Welcome to the Sc2 scene ! Its a very fun esport to follow and cheer to. | ||
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