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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44131 Posts
April 07 2007 08:21 GMT
#61
What confuses me is that you're asking a Starcraft forum how much they care about the game. I mean jeez, go on a WoW forum or something and ask because seriously, you won't get much debate here.
Yes, we like Starcraft.
No, we don't like hacks.
Yes, we still enjoy to play.

Exactly what were you expecting.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
April 07 2007 08:24 GMT
#62
Actually there is no other forum with smart people. And i read between lines, simple answers means nothing.
mafia shit bullshit
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
April 07 2007 08:25 GMT
#63
CHESS.

see new patches in chess? But it's alive isn't it?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
l2k-Spec-Ops_X
Profile Joined November 2006
United States61 Posts
April 07 2007 08:26 GMT
#64
Fear not, this community has been one of the most powerful an dedicated around. I have never seen another community with the same enduring passion as this one.

~Fear the Fog~
1Com ~Fear the Fog~ l2uthless Killaz
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44131 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-07 08:28:19
April 07 2007 08:27 GMT
#65
This isn't the way to get a legacy. Surely with your talents you could make something sexy although I have no idea why you don't feel BW launcher is enough. I'm sure your hack is very good but no-ones going to thank you for it.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
April 07 2007 08:27 GMT
#66
Haha, noone of you played more than 1000 games of chess. Chess are boring, there is no Psistorm and they comps > humans these days.
mafia shit bullshit
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
April 07 2007 08:28 GMT
#67
On April 07 2007 17:27 Kwark wrote:
This isn't the way to get a legacy. Surely with your talents you could make something sexy although I have no idea why you don't feel BW launcher is enough. I'm sure your hack is very good but no-ones going to thank you for it.


If i would be a prick i would say - No one here.
mafia shit bullshit
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
April 07 2007 08:31 GMT
#68
On April 07 2007 16:27 Ashur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2007 16:23 thedeadhaji wrote:
It's fair to say that PGT's experience may never be recreated, but there's value in trying to recreate one, or to strive for something different and perhaps even more capable. I think there's still passion in the guys behind these ladders, and the players who are participating in them.


There is already few working ladders with//without official support. And they are dead. Why do you think that TL.net will be different?

Why do I think TLTour will be different? TLTour is the half the reason those ladders aren't successful, we're waiting for TLTour.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44131 Posts
April 07 2007 08:32 GMT
#69
On April 07 2007 17:28 Ashur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2007 17:27 Kwark wrote:
This isn't the way to get a legacy. Surely with your talents you could make something sexy although I have no idea why you don't feel BW launcher is enough. I'm sure your hack is very good but no-ones going to thank you for it.


If i would be a prick i would say - No one here.


I have an idea. Write an amazing hack with a virus in. Put it on BW hacks. People download it. It works well and spreads throughout the entire hacker community. And then you expose the lot of them and we have ourselves a purge. That'll get you remembered.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
April 07 2007 08:37 GMT
#70
well hello there mister sunshine

Ashur, just because you've lost your passion for the game doesn't mean everyone else has. Sure, a bunch of people have moved on to poker, lost interest or just stick around for progaming news. Many more haven't, and new players are still picking up the game. There isn't only the TL community and the GG community, there are still countless others who have fun playing BW every day, plus the huge Korean scene will be running strong for at least a few years.
This game is by no means dead or dying and strategies, micro and macro can always be taken to a new level.

I don't really care whether you release a hack or not, it's pretty pointless. I still play maybe 10-15 games per week (after more than five years, I'm still not even close to getting sick of it) and if I encounter some blatant hacker, I just shrug it off and move on. All you'd be doing by releasing another hack (and I'm sure there are other hacks that are undetectable by PP already) is enabling another bunch of hackers to screw up a few more games. That's like swiping your foot through an anthill - a senseless act of aggression, ultimately nothing more than a small nuisance.

Thanks for all the other stuff you've done though, you've always been great to the community.
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
April 07 2007 08:38 GMT
#71
On April 07 2007 17:32 Kwark wrote:
I have an idea. Write an amazing hack with a virus in. Put it on BW hacks. People download it. It works well and spreads throughout the entire hacker community. And then you expose the lot of them and we have ourselves a purge. That'll get you remembered.


You missed that, it happened a half year ago. However i was not the creator. And it wasnt well spreaded. Actually the most fav hack was downloaded ~12000 times. BWLauncher has much more active users. But still not hundreds of thousands.
mafia shit bullshit
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
April 07 2007 08:40 GMT
#72
On April 07 2007 17:37 vGl-CoW wrote:
Ashur, just because you've lost your passion for the game doesn't mean everyone else has. Sure, a bunch of people have moved on to poker, lost interest or just stick around for progaming news. Many more haven't, and new players are still picking up the game. There isn't only the TL community and the GG community, there are still countless others who have fun playing BW every day, plus the huge Korean scene will be running strong for at least a few years.


I got the same feelings. Ok guys, thanks for you time. Nice to talk to you, me to bed.
mafia shit bullshit
XelNaga
Profile Joined March 2007
162 Posts
April 07 2007 08:40 GMT
#73
I already have an undetectable hack that works through PP, thank you very much.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
April 07 2007 08:42 GMT
#74
This thread was depressing.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
April 07 2007 08:44 GMT
#75
Every community starts "dying" at a certain point but there are people who still like to play legit games so please don't ruin the experience for them =/

As for the DotA community, that's dying at a much faster rate than the BW one-- reference the CPL fluke, CEVO "season" that turned into a poorly-organized tournament (now discontinued), team hopping (and even disbanding-- ie coL, one of the premiere teams in the world), bad manners, etc. You won't be able to find a more persistent community elsewhere, sadly enough. :[
Ashur
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic646 Posts
April 07 2007 08:45 GMT
#76
On April 07 2007 17:40 XelNaga wrote:
I already have an undetectable hack that works through PP, thank you very much.


Last defense. PPlug is 6 months old. Your undetectable hack would be caught if i could update it. The "Invisiblo" cannot be caught. If i would invest few more hours into it, not even by Warden from WoW if we come to details. Gnite.
mafia shit bullshit
XelNaga
Profile Joined March 2007
162 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-07 08:47:36
April 07 2007 08:45 GMT
#77
On April 07 2007 17:45 Ashur wrote:

Last defense. PPlug is 6 months old. Your undetectable hack would be caught if i could update it. The "Invisiblo" cannot be caught. If i would invest few more hours into it, not even by Warden from WoW if we come to details. Gnite.


The hack has been around for a very long time now.. It's something (along with the nuke glitch) that was never patched in SCExtension.
EkipsTakemi
Profile Joined April 2007
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-07 09:08:20
April 07 2007 08:59 GMT
#78
... Are you... serious?

Ok, wow, to Ashur, maybe there will be hacking if you release it, maybe this whole game will become as popular as Arcanum is... I know you never heard of it. But there are dedicated players out there.

Once... a g/f of mine said:
"Alright, this is too much, pick, is it going to be Starcraft, or me?"
I replied: "There's the door"

My devotion to Starcraft is great... and, while the thoughts of losing starcraft were not the only reason I said that, they were the main reason. If she said Diablo 2 or me, I'd say, alright, sure, I won't play it anymore...

I'm pretty sure alot of people would do the same...

As for your "hack". Maphack, right? Now, I don't browse communities of hacking fora and what not, but I think that means you can see the entire map right? That's... that's not GREAT. See, what I can do, is X amount of mins/vespene... and I'm working on altering the attack of a probe so it attacks for 2000 rather than 5.

Now, wow, everyone is going to hate Ekips. Thing is... I know if I use these hacks, I would be hated, and I would get worse. I have the power to use 10k mins right from minute one, and I choose to rather lose if I have to... I can never cheat in SC. In Warcraft? I would so give myself 1,000,000 gold every single Dota match to piss off everyone. Starcraft? I would rather be killed by 12 zlings and be drone drilled than cheat...

I'm pretty sure alot of people would do the same...

And I'm sure I've played over 1,000 chess games, even though I'd rather play Shogi... no one plays Shogi. Only 2 people I know, and you know what? Every time I get the chance, I play Shogi... in this comparison, shogi = SC and Chess = WC. Both are dying out, and no one plays Shogi, but if they do, they find it more complicated and awesome than Chess.

Are there Chess players out there? Ofcourse! For how long? REAL LONG.

Shogi players? Yeah. As many? Probably not. Does that make Shogi dead and not worth playing anymore? Just because the community is small, or even near nonexistant, would you give up a game you love? And heck, can make money in if you get good enough?

I search on Arcanum's multiplayer everyday in hopes to find someone... It's my favorite game... Starcraft's my second... Anyone that bothers to flame me for it...

Sadly, no one is ever on... but does that make me stop liking the game? Nope. Would I like it more if people were on? Yeah, definitely.

It's the old chicken and egg question... "If you want people to play the game, it must be popular. If you want the game to be popular, people must play it."

You decide if you want to give the cycle a chance... A chance to let someone enjoy their favorite game... or to kill the game that is an extension of their soul, because that's how I think of the other game, AND Starcraft... and to tell the truth, if I would have played Starcraft before that other one, it probably would be my favorite of all time.
Nothing is as far away as one minute ago
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
April 07 2007 09:03 GMT
#79
There are so many people who do not like playing with hacks. They just wont play using cheats
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
April 07 2007 09:07 GMT
#80
causasionAsian speaks the truth Word ~
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