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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2014 15:40 GMT
#21
I mean, even if it is freely available, the only thing you're doing by reading character info you shouldn't be privy to is spoiling your own roleplaying experience, lol.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 03 2014 15:42 GMT
#22
On December 04 2014 00:40 Sunaj wrote:
Is there anything you guys used for the character sheets? Or just put it in a notepad or something?

I'm not gonna do a character buildout just yet. I'll submit character bio, basic info (class, starting alignment, race, etc), and a plan for his character, but I don't want to roll out a sheet just yet.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 03 2014 15:45 GMT
#23
I did a full character build including numbers (with sonivs help and so he can technically vouch for me having rolled things randomly for the most part), and I'll be submitting a sheet that he linked me to fill out.

Doing the numbers and build first made writing the bio/character interesting because this way I can have my story fit what I rolled.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 03 2014 15:51 GMT
#24
Asmo, how are we doing stat rolling? Roll 3D6x9 take top 6? Can we assign? What's starting gold and level?
It's your boy Guzma!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-03 16:10:24
December 03 2014 15:57 GMT
#25
On December 04 2014 00:51 Requizen wrote:
Asmo, how are we doing stat rolling? Roll 3D6x9 take top 6? Can we assign? What's starting gold and level?

previously asmo said to do it like they say in the book
Roll four 6-sided dice and record the total of the highest three dice on a piece of scratch paper. Do this five more times, so that you have six numbers.... Now take your six numbers and write each number beside one of your character’s six abilities

from my online alternative with book marks on dropbox if anyone needs
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 03 2014 16:02 GMT
#26
Just read PBE of 5E for basic setup OR we can schedule a dice rolling session after the applications are in. I recommend having a copy of the PBE on hand for your own reference, and I'm sure there are online "alternatives" to buying it.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 03 2014 16:12 GMT
#27
I cant stream Potato too crappy :<
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 03 2014 17:22 GMT
#28
Well I'm assuming Asmo would stream (unless the plan would be to create a new channel).
If I'm involved I could host the channel that's streaming too for xtra viewars
Hell even if I'm not ill totally host
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 03 2014 18:07 GMT
#29
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 03 2014 18:29 GMT
#30
On December 04 2014 01:02 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Just read PBE of 5E for basic setup OR we can schedule a dice rolling session after the applications are in. I recommend having a copy of the PBE on hand for your own reference, and I'm sure there are online "alternatives" to buying it.

*PHB

Too much PBE discussion in the GD thread, lol.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 03 2014 18:30 GMT
#31
nono, he's talking about the 5e Player's Book Extraordinaire
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-03 21:25:31
December 03 2014 21:24 GMT
#32
On December 04 2014 00:40 Sunaj wrote:
Is there anything you guys used for the character sheets? Or just put it in a notepad or something?

http://media.wizards.com/2014/downloads/dnd/5E_CHARACTERSHEETSV3.ZIP
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-03 21:59:59
December 03 2014 21:58 GMT
#33
nevermind
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
December 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#34
On December 04 2014 06:24 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 00:40 Sunaj wrote:
Is there anything you guys used for the character sheets? Or just put it in a notepad or something?

http://media.wizards.com/2014/downloads/dnd/5E_CHARACTERSHEETSV3.ZIP


Although they don't have a d&d next sheet available yet, MythWeavers is generally pretty good for online campaigns, for future reference.

Also I won't have the time to commit to this and you have enough enough interest but if you need help with stuff or if a player drops out I can try to help, decent experience playing and DMing but not with next. Will be following in any case!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 03 2014 22:39 GMT
#35
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
December 03 2014 23:59 GMT
#36
Something to consider for a lore change

"It should be noted that a cleric of a lesser god will develop the same in-game strength as any other adventurer, in spite of their deities’ “comparative power.” An argument could be made that a lesser god would not be able to grant the powers a level 20 cleric should possess, but, if a player has a level 20 cleric, there’s reason to assume that their influence has drawn more worshippers to their god, providing the god itself with greater power."

Might be easier to suggest that because lesser gods have fewer clerics they're more able to dole out power to them rather to suggest that lesser gods must become greater as their clerics increase in level

That being said, before i look into submitting a sheet (because I love this kind of shit) i was wondering what kind of GM you were. Do you encourage metagaming? Will the campaign need/want a lot of min-maxing or will more well rounded characters do better? I haven't looked at 5e yet, but i am pretty certain I can break it if i want to. I just want to know how much i should.

Additionally are we starting out without having adventured yet or should we have already described ourselves as having one?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#37
His explanation of lesser gods seems 100% fine with me. What about your suggestion makes it "easier to suggest"?

Why would you ever want to encourage metagaming? There's no way to win D&D, so trying to outplay/break everything seems completely out of the spirit of the game to me. You're developing a story, not trying to achieve some nonexistant victory.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
December 04 2014 01:04 GMT
#38
5e is like anti-breakable, you cant have attributes above 20, nothing stacks, few feat options, linear proficiency bonus etc. I enjoy making a bat shit OP 3.5 character as much as the next guy but thats not why i want to play most the games asmo said he is welcoming brand new players so i think it won't require min/maxing. and ill bet there will be lots of opportunities to roll play as opposed to pure hack and slash.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-04 02:03:36
December 04 2014 01:38 GMT
#39
5E is still breakable solely from the fact that Polymorph still exists.

On December 04 2014 09:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Why would you ever want to encourage metagaming? There's no way to win D&D, so trying to outplay/break everything seems completely out of the spirit of the game to me. You're developing a story, not trying to achieve some nonexistant victory.

Echoing this, "high power" games are fun if and only if all players and the DM are in agreement, all players are familiar enough with the system to match a similar power level, and the DM has enough familiarity to still present an interesting gameplay experience to that level of character power (side note: the game I'm currently DMing is actually this kind of "high power" game--the group is experienced, but some of the players wanted the experience of this kind of game because they'd never tried it before). Given how this game is open to people with no D&D experience, and given how Asmo openly admits to never DMing a 5E game before, it should be a given that this is a low power game.

Also, breaking things to the point of degeneracy is never fun, period. Some level of optimization generally tends to balance out the experience better (i.e. a 3.5E Wizard taking Grease and Color Spray at level 1 rather than Magic Missile and Burning Hands is likely to have more fun even if it trivializes some encounters--because its not very wizard-y when you spend the entire day hitting things with your stick), but overdoing it never works. As much as I've dabbled in theoretical character optimization in 3.5E, it's still absolutely not fun in the slightest to play a game with Pun-Pun, and even "tamer" games with stuff like Divine Metamagic or Polymorph as written still end up getting really stupid at one point or another. "Breaking" the game is pretty much always counterproductive, no matter how experienced the players and DM are, and should be left in the realm of theorycraft.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 04 2014 02:36 GMT
#40
On December 04 2014 08:59 Goumindong wrote:
Something to consider for a lore change

"It should be noted that a cleric of a lesser god will develop the same in-game strength as any other adventurer, in spite of their deities’ “comparative power.” An argument could be made that a lesser god would not be able to grant the powers a level 20 cleric should possess, but, if a player has a level 20 cleric, there’s reason to assume that their influence has drawn more worshippers to their god, providing the god itself with greater power."

Might be easier to suggest that because lesser gods have fewer clerics they're more able to dole out power to them rather to suggest that lesser gods must become greater as their clerics increase in level

That being said, before i look into submitting a sheet (because I love this kind of shit) i was wondering what kind of GM you were. Do you encourage metagaming? Will the campaign need/want a lot of min-maxing or will more well rounded characters do better? I haven't looked at 5e yet, but i am pretty certain I can break it if i want to. I just want to know how much i should.

Additionally are we starting out without having adventured yet or should we have already described ourselves as having one?


As far as lore goes, both ideas apply. I THINK I mentioned that in one of the documents, but if I hadn't, that's what I intended. Lesser gods have less power to dole out and give it to fewer people. ALSO, a Cleric isn't going to get power-capped based on who they choose to worship, since it's entirely possible to be stronger than a god (or many). It's lore to serve the players so they can feel free to story-up however they want.

I don't have a lot of experience with min/max-ing and metagaming to be honest, and that's usually not my focus. I like to tell stories, for the most part, and to give the players the power to have all the fun they can in the world. If that means that the players want to do ridiculous min/maxing and shit, that's up to them and I'll figure out how to deal with it. Personally, I don't think that playing numbers is as interesting as playing characters.

I plan to nerf shit that leads to outright ridiculousness. Polymorph, as Yango mentions, is a prime target for such shit. Also, long rests and the Alert feat (also mentioned by Yango, soniv, etc.). The rest we'll figure out as we go along. If it trivializes the game to the expense of the narrative or a sense of immersion, I don't think that's worth it (but again, maybe the party will).

Your backstory can be whatever you want. You're level 1, that's about it. It can mean almost anything. As far as your fellow party members, you will NOT have met them before.
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