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but i have a few minutes right now
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On October 15 2014 06:11 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:09 stuchiu wrote:On October 15 2014 06:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:01 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 05:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 05:54 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 05:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On October 15 2014 05:52 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 05:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 05:50 GumBa wrote:
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You be missing out, he's actually loveably awkward So was Scarlett. But with Inno you also have wins to cheer about. Scarlett's exciting because you're not quite sure if she'll win or not as opposed to Inno's just winning I'm always certain she will not win. However, INnoVation's opponents are as good as he is quite often so I'm not usually sure. Scarlett fits Bomber's law just as much as Bomber. If she does win it's only to set up a bigger disappointment/throw later on. Bomber's law USED to exist because he would play like a god and destroy the best players in the world only to fail in the next round to an inferior player by making some stupid mistakes. Scarlett just loses to good players. it's not the same thing Scarlett has this annoying habit of pulling a large number of upsets in a row and giving us hope that it'll be THE RUN and then throws it against a weaker player than the last few though. The law is about every player. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/434364-i-fought-the-law-st_bomber-road-to-blizzcon-6 Best article ever. Fuck yeah Stuchiu
Indeed one of my favorites too!
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because HYPE and passion are life
just like PartinGtheBigBoy
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On October 15 2014 06:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:But he does seem to benefit more from Terran be strong in the meta than others
But he can win without patches contrary to what patchrace players are
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On October 15 2014 06:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
but i have a few minutes right now
Few minutes to study dude. Take that shit seriously
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On October 15 2014 06:16 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall. An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible I wouldn't say he peaked then. He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely. Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem. I don't either. Saying that he peaks when his race is doing bad isn't true though. He was the best terran at wol when balance was atrocious. How do you explain that ?
I'm not explaining that. I'm just saying that later, in early HotS when terran was doing better he was not only the best terran, but also the best player in the world which is a more appropriate place to call a peak then his performance in end WoL. I'm not the one who implied he was a patch terran. If you want to argue about that, go talk to Circumstance instead.
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On October 15 2014 06:18 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:17 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I honestly think INnoVation proved that blue flame hellbats was op in TvT, which subsequently lead to the nerf. He kind of used it as a crutch though, because after the nerf he wasn't the same.
I would say he is in top 3 Terran, but definitely behind Bomber and Polt. Behind Bomber and Polt right now? You do realise he just won gsl. You can argue Bomber but no way Polt
I just love Polt and I wanted to troll you 
I agree though, INno > Polt.
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245 pages, keep up the good work guys
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On October 15 2014 06:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
but i have a few minutes right now Few minutes to study dude. Take that shit seriously
its an open note lab midterm, it should be okay
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On October 15 2014 06:20 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran" But he does seem to benefit more from Terran be strong in the meta than others But he can win without patches contrary to what patchrace players are
Exactly, he gets the benefit of the patch without being a patchplayer
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On October 15 2014 06:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:16 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
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An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall. An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible I wouldn't say he peaked then. He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely. Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem. I don't either. Saying that he peaks when his race is doing bad isn't true though. He was the best terran at wol when balance was atrocious. How do you explain that ? I'm not explaining that. I'm just saying that later, in early HotS when terran was doing better he was not only the best terran, but also the best player in the world which is a more appropriate place to call a peak then his performance in end WoL. I'm not the one who implied he was a patch terran. If you want to argue about that, go talk to Circumstance instead.
I agree with you. I just kinda sometimes split wol and hots abit more than I should
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On October 15 2014 06:20 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
but i have a few minutes right now Few minutes to study dude. Take that shit seriously its an open note lab midterm, it should be okay
What class is it? Chemistry?
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On October 15 2014 06:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:20 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran" But he does seem to benefit more from Terran be strong in the meta than others But he can win without patches contrary to what patchrace players are Exactly, he gets the benefit of the patch without being a patchplayer
its not like its a new concept, vs players like sniper are patchplayers, inno and drg are NOT
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On October 15 2014 06:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:20 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran" But he does seem to benefit more from Terran be strong in the meta than others But he can win without patches contrary to what patchrace players are Exactly, he gets the benefit of the patch without being a patchplayer
this guy gets it
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On October 15 2014 06:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:20 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 15 2014 06:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
but i have a few minutes right now Few minutes to study dude. Take that shit seriously its an open note lab midterm, it should be okay What class is it? Chemistry?
geology, im a BSES major
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On October 15 2014 06:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:20 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran" But he does seem to benefit more from Terran be strong in the meta than others But he can win without patches contrary to what patchrace players are Exactly, he gets the benefit of the patch without being a patchplayer
Yeah. He can abuse (hate that word) better than anyone cause he just excutes everything better
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Ugh. Chemistry. Easily my least favorite subject. And my worst subject.
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how many posts before next icon? is it at 1000? cause i wanna reach by just going on this thread
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On October 15 2014 06:21 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:16 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
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An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible I wouldn't say he peaked then. He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely. Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem. I don't either. Saying that he peaks when his race is doing bad isn't true though. He was the best terran at wol when balance was atrocious. How do you explain that ? I'm not explaining that. I'm just saying that later, in early HotS when terran was doing better he was not only the best terran, but also the best player in the world which is a more appropriate place to call a peak then his performance in end WoL. I'm not the one who implied he was a patch terran. If you want to argue about that, go talk to Circumstance instead. I agree with you. I just kinda sometimes split wol and hots abit more than I should
INno was a god amongst the terrans during the end of wol. When the bnet forums was full of the bl/infestor posts, the only response was "INnovation beats zerg" lol.
And the obvious response was "He is the only one. Zerg still OP"
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On October 15 2014 06:20 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 06:18 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 06:17 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I honestly think INnoVation proved that blue flame hellbats was op in TvT, which subsequently lead to the nerf. He kind of used it as a crutch though, because after the nerf he wasn't the same.
I would say he is in top 3 Terran, but definitely behind Bomber and Polt. Behind Bomber and Polt right now? You do realise he just won gsl. You can argue Bomber but no way Polt I just love Polt and I wanted to troll you I agree though, INno > Polt.
I think the switch to a foreign team also affected him quite a bit. I definitely see him going on a good run.
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