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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 14 2014 21:10 GMT
#4861
Inno has proved to be one of the best and most consistent terrans in all of hots and was also the best terran at the end of wol. Anyone who says he is a patchterran is a moron.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
JamesT
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
United States681 Posts
October 14 2014 21:11 GMT
#4862
On October 15 2014 06:10 GumBa wrote:
Inno has proved to be one of the best and most consistent terrans in all of hots and was also the best terran at the end of wol. Anyone who says he is a patchterran is a moron.

I feel you
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 14 2014 21:11 GMT
#4863
On October 15 2014 06:09 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:01 Yorkie wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:56 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:54 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:53 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:52 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:50 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
[quote]

Meh, robots aren't fun to cheer for.

You be missing out, he's actually loveably awkward


So was Scarlett.

But with Inno you also have wins to cheer about.

Scarlett's exciting because you're not quite sure if she'll win or not as opposed to Inno's just winning

I'm always certain she will not win. However, INnoVation's opponents are as good as he is quite often so I'm not usually sure.


Scarlett fits Bomber's law just as much as Bomber. If she does win it's only to set up a bigger disappointment/throw later on.

Bomber's law USED to exist because he would play like a god and destroy the best players in the world only to fail in the next round to an inferior player by making some stupid mistakes. Scarlett just loses to good players. it's not the same thing


Scarlett has this annoying habit of pulling a large number of upsets in a row and giving us hope that it'll be THE RUN and then throws it against a weaker player than the last few though.


The law is about every player.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/434364-i-fought-the-law-st_bomber-road-to-blizzcon-6

Best article ever. Fuck yeah Stuchiu
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 21:12:51
October 14 2014 21:12 GMT
#4864
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely unlike some other players.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 14 2014 21:12 GMT
#4865
On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely.

Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem.
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
October 14 2014 21:13 GMT
#4866
How far does anyone think Jjakji going to go?
Poll: How far will Jjakji go?

Stopped by San (5)
 
50%

Round of 8 (4)
 
40%

Top of the mountain (1)
 
10%

Semi (0)
 
0%

Finals (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: How far will Jjakji go?

(Vote): Stopped by San
(Vote): Round of 8
(Vote): Semi
(Vote): Finals
(Vote): Top of the mountain


I honestly think he will beat San, but not much farther.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 14 2014 21:13 GMT
#4867
On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely.

Top 3 when terran does bad number one when terran does well. He just benifets from standard way more and does everything better.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
JamesT
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
United States681 Posts
October 14 2014 21:15 GMT
#4868
On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely.

Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem.

It shouldn't be, my guy soulkey fought against hellbats and won
How are you doing today?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17656 Posts
October 14 2014 21:15 GMT
#4869
On October 15 2014 06:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
How far does anyone think Jjakji going to go?
Poll: How far will Jjakji go?

Stopped by San (5)
 
50%

Round of 8 (4)
 
40%

Top of the mountain (1)
 
10%

Semi (0)
 
0%

Finals (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: How far will Jjakji go?

(Vote): Stopped by San
(Vote): Round of 8
(Vote): Semi
(Vote): Finals
(Vote): Top of the mountain


I honestly think he will beat San, but not much farther.

San is gonna beat jjakji, then Life, then soO, and then lose in the finals to Bomber
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 14 2014 21:15 GMT
#4870
On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely.

Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem.


I don't either.

Saying that he peaks when his race is doing bad isn't true though.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 14 2014 21:15 GMT
#4871
But inno aint a "patchterran"
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 14 2014 21:16 GMT
#4872
On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran"

But he does seem to benefit more from Terran be strong in the meta than others
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 14 2014 21:16 GMT
#4873
On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran"

Of course he isn't. Patchrace is grossly over-used
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TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 14 2014 21:16 GMT
#4874
On October 15 2014 06:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely.

Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem.


I don't either.

Saying that he peaks when his race is doing bad isn't true though.

He was the best terran at wol when balance was atrocious. How do you explain that ?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 14 2014 21:16 GMT
#4875
On October 15 2014 06:16 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:15 GumBa wrote:
But inno aint a "patchterran"

Of course he isn't. Patchrace is grossly over-used

Patchtoss is underused
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
October 14 2014 21:17 GMT
#4876
I honestly think INnoVation proved that blue flame hellbats was op in TvT, which subsequently lead to the nerf. He kind of used it as a crutch though, because after the nerf he wasn't the same.

I would say he is in top 3 Terran, but definitely behind Bomber and Polt.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 14 2014 21:17 GMT
#4877
On October 15 2014 06:15 JamesT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 06:12 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:04 The_Templar wrote:
On October 15 2014 06:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 15 2014 05:57 GumBa wrote:
Inno was quite possibly the best terran at the end of wol. Known for its zerg dominance. And obv an excellent player peaks when his race does well lol. But even then he achieved a second at dh, won a multitude of stacked online tournaments and also was one of like the 4 terrans in gsl s2 lol


An excellent player doesn't always peak when his race does well. Taeja doesn't, and a few other players have the mirror as their worst matchup and in fact decline when their race does well. But yeah Inno is pretty good overall.

An inconsistent/intelligent player is much more likely to peak when their race does poorly than a solid, consistent player like INnoVation

Inno also had a peak when his race was doing horrible


I wouldn't say he peaked then.

He had a form peak though comparative to all other terrans


He was much better even relatively to other terrans right after, when the balance favoured terrans and he won a bunch of stuff. He declined as hellbats were nerfed, and came back to full power recently with the terran resurgence. INnoVation is still good when terran does badly but he's best when terran does well. His progress follows the balance trend lines fairly closely.

Yes, and I don't see why that's a problem.

It shouldn't be, my guy soulkey fought against hellbats and won

Inno threw that finals
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#4878
Bomber's Law is real
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#4879
On October 15 2014 06:17 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I honestly think INnoVation proved that blue flame hellbats was op in TvT, which subsequently lead to the nerf. He kind of used it as a crutch though, because after the nerf he wasn't the same.

I would say he is in top 3 Terran, but definitely behind Bomber and Polt.

Behind Bomber and Polt right now? You do realise he just won gsl. You can argue Bomber but no way Polt
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
October 14 2014 21:19 GMT
#4880
have a midterm in 40 minutes, after that, its passion time
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