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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:35:50
October 31 2014 09:35 GMT
#21501
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the start time...

If anything, I'm hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't remember that.

What do you mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

Yeah it is!! Just making to Taeja vs soO is going to be hard! (As much as I want to watch INnoVation, I do expect him to dispatch HyuN.) Taeja vs soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

I honestly can't wait for that.... VOD...
I can't watch on saturday
I was soooo hyped
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 31 2014 09:36 GMT
#21502
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the start time...

If anything, I'm hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't remember that.

What do you mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

Yeah it is!! Just making to Taeja vs soO is going to be hard! (As much as I want to watch INnoVation, I do expect him to dispatch HyuN.) Taeja vs soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

I expect great matches from Bomber vs Jaedong and from the last three ones (Life vs Zest, soO vs Taeja and Hyun vs Innovation). But I will be pleasantly surprised if the others also show some good games.
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:38:25
October 31 2014 09:37 GMT
#21503
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong (Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA

E: lol at how this tag works
Insert wise words here
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:39:41
October 31 2014 09:38 GMT
#21504
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong ((P)Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:40:45
October 31 2014 09:40 GMT
#21505
The closer this is getting, the more I want to see soO take this. This tournament is all about him for me.
Random master race
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 31 2014 09:40 GMT
#21506
On October 31 2014 18:38 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong ((P)Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.

Because they are of almost equal skill and will provide entertaining games for us. Stardust will just get REKT
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:43:19
October 31 2014 09:42 GMT
#21507
On October 31 2014 18:40 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:38 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong ((P)Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.

Because they are of almost equal skill and will provide entertaining games for us. Stardust will just get REKT

You are going to be in for a surprise then if you think that.
Neosteel Enthusiast
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:43:56
October 31 2014 09:43 GMT
#21508
On October 31 2014 18:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:40 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:38 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
[quote]
We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong ((P)Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.

Because they are of almost equal skill and will provide entertaining games for us. Stardust will just get REKT

You are going to be in for a suprise then if you think that.


jjakji vs San will be boring match?
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
October 31 2014 09:44 GMT
#21509
On October 31 2014 18:38 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:17 Kimb3r wrote:
One day before the event and we still don't have any schedule? What's that?

We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong (Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.

Don't like Cheesedust
Insert wise words here
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 31 2014 09:45 GMT
#21510
On October 31 2014 18:43 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:40 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:38 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
[quote]
And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong ((P)Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.

Because they are of almost equal skill and will provide entertaining games for us. Stardust will just get REKT

You are going to be in for a suprise then if you think that.


jjakji vs San will be boring match?

No, I really think that it will be amazing!
As for MMA, I could just be biased, but I never liked Cheesedust
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 31 2014 09:48 GMT
#21511
On October 31 2014 18:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:40 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:38 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:33 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:27 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:26 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:23 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:20 y0su wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:19 H8 wrote:
[quote]
We know when the games will be played. And assuming it's same format as last year, we know the order of matches.

And we know the (Z)Start time...

If anything, I'(T)M hoping they don't follow a strict schedule. I'd rather have minimal downtime between games!


Was there any downtime last year? I don't (P)Remember that.

What do you (T)Mean by downtime?
If you think long breaks between matches, then yes

I guees, I was so hyped that I didn't notice. Or (Z)just forgot. Anyway it gonna be a long long saturday night!

(Z)Yeah it is!! (Z)just making to (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO is going to be hard! (As much as I (P)WanT to watch (T)INnoVation, I do (P)expect him to dispatch (Z)HyuN.) (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO though will probably be one of the best matches! Both have insane offline records against the other race (like 74 and 77 % win!!).

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong ((P)Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA


Why jjakji vs San before MMA vs Stardust?

On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:
E: lol at how this tag works


lol. You have to select what you want to tag, because otherwise that will happen.

Because they are of almost equal skill and will provide entertaining games for us. Stardust will just get REKT

You are going to be in for a surprise then if you think that.

No, I won't. I know Stardust it legit good, but MMA shouldn't have a problem with him
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 09:55:31
October 31 2014 09:50 GMT
#21512
So, I realized I've hyped almost EVERY Terran in this tournament!!

except... POLT!!!!!

It's also been a while since I did any paintshopping :D
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(those have probably already been done but whatever!)

MORE POLT!
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+ Show Spoiler +
MORE CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!
U-S-A!
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U-S-A!
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U-S-A!
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 31 2014 09:52 GMT
#21513
I rather won't quote that post. Awesome paint skillz!
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 31 2014 09:54 GMT
#21514
On October 31 2014 18:52 H8 wrote:
I rather won't quote that post. Awesome paint skillz!

Photoshop?
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 31 2014 09:55 GMT
#21515
On October 31 2014 18:54 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:52 H8 wrote:
I rather won't quote that post. Awesome paint skillz!

Photoshop?

Paint > photoshop all day.
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 31 2014 09:56 GMT
#21516
On October 31 2014 18:55 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:54 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:52 H8 wrote:
I rather won't quote that post. Awesome paint skillz!

Photoshop?

Paint > photoshop all day.

why?
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 31 2014 09:59 GMT
#21517
On October 31 2014 18:56 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:55 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:54 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:52 H8 wrote:
I rather won't quote that post. Awesome paint skillz!

Photoshop?

Paint > photoshop all day.

why?

it's faster and straight to the point
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H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 31 2014 09:59 GMT
#21518
On October 31 2014 18:56 Sakat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 18:55 H8 wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:54 Sakat wrote:
On October 31 2014 18:52 H8 wrote:
I rather won't quote that post. Awesome paint skillz!

Photoshop?

Paint > photoshop all day.

why?

Just look at the Polt pics. You can say it's as real as it gets. You can't do that with photoshop.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 31 2014 10:03 GMT
#21519
Awesome!
I'm sooooo hyped for THis event!!!!
ro4 will be Jaedong/Bomber, Polt, Zest, soO in my prediction. With a Jaedong/Bomber vs soO finals!
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 31 2014 10:08 GMT
#21520
On October 31 2014 18:37 IAmWithStupid wrote:

Most anticipated matches in order:
1. (T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong (Fan bias)
2. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO
3. (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
4. (Z)Life vs (P)Zest
Everything else
8. (P)StarDust vs (T)MMA



Interesting.
I think for me
#1. (T)TaeJa vs (Z)soO + Show Spoiler +
should be very high level and relatively even!!

#2 - 4. TvP+ Show Spoiler +
(T)jjakji vs (P)San / (T)Polt vs (P)Classic / (T)MMA vs (P)StarDust
+ Show Spoiler +
I want to see how this matchup is played by 6 very different players and which of these 6 - if any - can make a tournament run!

#5 - 6. TvZ + Show Spoiler +

(T)Bomber vs (Z)Jaedong / (T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
+ Show Spoiler +
bias. these should be one sided...

#7. (P)MC vs (P)herO + Show Spoiler +
again bias... but I do enjoy some good PvP (this one should be a stop though)

#8. (P)Zest vs (Z)Life + Show Spoiler +
maybe a PvZ stomp won't be too bad :D
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