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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 16:22:44
October 29 2014 16:22 GMT
#20741
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 29 2014 16:23 GMT
#20742
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1

So close to perfect balance AND Bomber vs soO in the finals I like it a lot
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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 29 2014 16:25 GMT
#20743
Sad stuff.. hopefully the hype will grow again.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 29 2014 16:33 GMT
#20744
On October 30 2014 01:23 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1

So close to perfect balance AND Bomber vs soO in the finals I like it a lot

Most roads lead to a terran win... I may try another track though. I've been assuming Bomber > Jaedong for as few upsets as possible.
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TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2014 16:34 GMT
#20745
On October 30 2014 01:16 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 01:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:02 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:50 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:47 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:31 AWalker9 wrote:
I had a dream herO won blizzcon last night, it was rather strange

Well, he's seems likely to make the finals so it isn't THAT weird.

I had a dream where my car was constantly expanding whenever my buddy was at the wheel.

Sounds like a fun dream. I actually had a dream last night where I met a girl I know down at Disneyland and we hung out, but it was very surreal, sort of like Spirited Away style.

SPIRITED AWAY WAS SUCH A HYPE MOVIE!
I NEED TO WATCH THAT AGAIN!


Ya it's pretty awesome, very beautiful. Princess Mononoke is his best movie though.

Never seen that one. Spirited Away scared me as a child


Watch both of them, today if possible!

what are those movies about?


SA: Little girls parents go missing and she falls into a fantasy world looking for them. Crazy stuff happens.
PM: Conflicts between humans and nature spirits.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2014 16:48 GMT
#20746
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1


Wow Terran is OP. Stupid broken game! Protoss can't win anything!
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Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
October 29 2014 16:57 GMT
#20747
teamliquid says that in 3 days WCS global day1 will start, but what about all the other days? dont get it :/
Is this real Life? No, it's StartaleLife!!!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 29 2014 16:58 GMT
#20748
On October 30 2014 01:57 Rikudou wrote:
teamliquid says that in 3 days WCS global day1 will start, but what about all the other days? dont get it :/

The RO8 and later is next weekend, around November 8
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
sparklewolf
Profile Joined August 2014
65 Posts
October 29 2014 17:25 GMT
#20749
3 days to go and still no broadcast schedule

god damn blizz
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
October 29 2014 17:37 GMT
#20750
On October 30 2014 02:25 sparklewolf wrote:
3 days to go and still no broadcast schedule

god damn blizz


A simple google search found it.
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/schedule
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 29 2014 17:38 GMT
#20751
On October 30 2014 02:37 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 02:25 sparklewolf wrote:
3 days to go and still no broadcast schedule

god damn blizz


A simple google search found it.
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/schedule


Google man, still a hard concept for some people
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sparklewolf
Profile Joined August 2014
65 Posts
October 29 2014 17:43 GMT
#20752
On October 30 2014 02:37 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 02:25 sparklewolf wrote:
3 days to go and still no broadcast schedule

god damn blizz


A simple google search found it.
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/schedule



broadcast schedule
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 29 2014 17:50 GMT
#20753
On October 30 2014 02:43 sparklewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 02:37 vult wrote:
On October 30 2014 02:25 sparklewolf wrote:
3 days to go and still no broadcast schedule

god damn blizz


A simple google search found it.
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/schedule



broadcast schedule

This isn't Dreamhack, there is no fixed time for a match to begin. The matches will probably be played in the order of the bracket I think (was it like that like year? concerning the main stream I mean)
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dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
October 29 2014 18:08 GMT
#20754
On October 30 2014 01:17 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 01:15 dangthatsright wrote:
least likely bracket (without scores)
+ Show Spoiler +

Bomber ┐
├────── Bomber ┐
Jaedong ┘ │
├──── StarDust ┐
StarDust ┐ │ │
├──── StarDust ┘ │
MMA ┘ │
├────────── MC ┐
MC ┐ │ │
├────────── MC ┐ │ │
herO ┘ │ │ │
├────────── MC ┘ │
Polt ┐ │ │
├───── Classic ┘ │
Classic ┘ │
├─ MC
San ┐ │
├───────── San ┐ │
jjakji ┘ │ │
├───────── San ┐ │
Zest ┐ │ │ │
├──────── Zest ┘ │ │
Life ┘ │ │
├──────── HyuN ┘
soO ┐ │
├───────── soO ┐ │
TaeJa ┘ │ │
├──────── HyuN ┘
HyuN ┐ │
├──────── HyuN ┘
INnoVation ┘

probability is about 1.8 * 10^(-7), which is about 170 times lower than average
did get a little lazy with the final match, so the actual probability is a bit lower

Bomber > Jaedong is less likely than Jaedong > Bomber? O.o

it sets up stardust > bomber later, which apparently makes the overall bracket less likely (according to aligulac values)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2014 18:33 GMT
#20755
On October 30 2014 01:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 01:16 Alchemik wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:02 The_Templar wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:50 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:47 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 00:31 AWalker9 wrote:
I had a dream herO won blizzcon last night, it was rather strange

Well, he's seems likely to make the finals so it isn't THAT weird.

I had a dream where my car was constantly expanding whenever my buddy was at the wheel.

Sounds like a fun dream. I actually had a dream last night where I met a girl I know down at Disneyland and we hung out, but it was very surreal, sort of like Spirited Away style.

SPIRITED AWAY WAS SUCH A HYPE MOVIE!
I NEED TO WATCH THAT AGAIN!


Ya it's pretty awesome, very beautiful. Princess Mononoke is his best movie though.

Never seen that one. Spirited Away scared me as a child


Watch both of them, today if possible!

what are those movies about?


SA: Little girls parents go missing and she falls into a fantasy world looking for them. Crazy stuff happens.
PM: Conflicts between humans and nature spirits.


It is... so hype... O_O
Everyone eneds to see them.
kiss kiss fall in love
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 29 2014 18:44 GMT
#20756
The lack of pashun is depressing...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2014 18:44 GMT
#20757
On October 30 2014 01:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1


Wow Terran is OP. Stupid broken game! Protoss can't win anything!

Besides GSLs against Zerg.
kiss kiss fall in love
H8
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic563 Posts
October 29 2014 18:51 GMT
#20758
On October 30 2014 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 01:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1


Wow Terran is OP. Stupid broken game! Protoss can't win anything!

Besides GSLs against soO.

ftfy
The Three Musketeers of EU Passion! TheBloodyDwarf, H8 and Sakat
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 29 2014 18:52 GMT
#20759
On October 30 2014 03:51 H8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1


Wow Terran is OP. Stupid broken game! Protoss can't win anything!

Besides GSLs against soO.

ftfy

Either way, he still beat SoO, who most consider to be the best player in the world, except for 4 days:
3 GSL finals and a DH final.
kiss kiss fall in love
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
October 29 2014 19:02 GMT
#20760
On October 30 2014 03:52 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 03:51 H8 wrote:
On October 30 2014 03:44 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 30 2014 01:22 The_Templar wrote:
On October 29 2014 23:34 dangthatsright wrote:
it's turning out to be really hard to make a "most balanced bracket"
if anyone wants to have a go, here are the criteria I was going for
- TvZ, ZvP, and PvT winrates are all 50%
- fractions of T, P, Z change minimally from one round to the next (obviously, going from finals to winner, this is going to be pretty drastic, so this is more relevant for the first two rounds)
- provided the first two hold, the bracket has a minimal number of upsets

So damn close...
(T)Bomber > (Z)Jaedong
(P)StarDust > (T)MMA
(P)herO > (P)MC
(T)Polt > (P)Classic
(P)San < (T)jjakji
(P)Zest > (Z)Life
(T)TaeJa < (Z)soO
(T)INnoVation < (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)StarDust
(P)herO > (T)Polt
(T)jjakji < (P)Zest
(Z)soO > (Z)HyuN

(T)Bomber > (P)herO
(P)Zest < (Z)soO

(T)Bomber > (Z)soO
TvZ: 2-2
PvT: 3-4
PvZ: 1-1

PvP: 1
TvT: 0
ZvZ: 1


Wow Terran is OP. Stupid broken game! Protoss can't win anything!

Besides GSLs against soO.

ftfy

Either way, he still beat SoO, who most consider to be the best player in the world, except for 4 days:
3 GSL finals and a DH final.

wasn't it 5 days - 4 GSL finals and a DH final?
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