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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 12:35:52
April 28 2014 10:22 GMT
#1
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Important: Date Changes!

Due to an unforeseen change of events, the SCII people / the oldschool tournament will be postponed. The new date will be the 10th May, 20:00 CET. The German King of the Hill (Cryoc vs. kab) will be played on 4th of May, 20 CET.

Stream: InstarcraftTV



It's been a while since Cele came up with the idea to host a somewhat regular show for German speaking players - our German King of the Hill. In the first episode (Wiki)Cryoc challenged the self proclaimed "King" ReY. The Kingslayer then defended his throne against TEH, whom we saw in the (Wiki)ILME Round of 16. Twice Cryoc could not really be taken down - maybe this changes.

The next episode will air in the evening hours of next Sunday, the 4th May. This event will feature tons of oldschool players. For the highlight of the evening Cryoc has to face none other than ips.Kab. If you're not German you might not really know him, however, we do. Kab used to be an active asset to the German B National Team, as well as its manager in the years before beta. He started to prepare somewhat like a month ago, already beat the previous challenger TEH in some of these training games and is up for no good.


(T)iFU.Cryoc vs. ips.Kab
<(Wiki)Fighting Spirit>
<(Wiki)Circuit Breaker>
<(Wiki)Electric Circuit>
<(Wiki)Sniper Ridge>
<(Wiki)Tau Cross>
<(Wiki)Jade>
<(Wiki)Overwatch>


Personally, I'm thrilled to see Kab back in action, I remember him from his high quality IRC #broodwar.de staff channel quotes. Seriously, I really do miss the time. Then again, Cryoc is no push over and currently among the stronger foreign Terrans. Old vs. New, Take 1.


      waschito: warum wählst du azalea gegen nen zerg?
      kab: weil ich fe spielen wollte und ihn mit meinem monster makro killn wollte
      kab: aber ich hab mich dann ned getraut fe zu spielen, weil ich dachte er poolt


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      waschito: why would you pick azalea against zerg?
      kab: cause i wanted to go fe and kill him with my monster macro
      kab: but i didn't dare to play fe, cause i thought he'd go pool first




[13:47:46] <@ips|kab|cable> um mich noch mehr zu profilieren hab ich mal nachgeschaut wie gut mein gegner denn so war !!
[13:47:55] <@ips|kab|cable> er hat alle nws bis auf einen verloren und gg mich
[13:47:56] <@waschito> und? ^^
[13:47:56] <@ips|kab|cable> xD!
[13:48:05] <@ips|kab|cable> äh
[13:48:06] <@ips|kab|cable> fuck
[13:48:07] <@ips|kab|cable> anderrum


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[13:47:46] <@ips|kab|cable> to brag more, i looked up how good my opponent was !!
[13:47:55] <@ips|kab|cable> he lost all but one nw (nation war) and vs me
[13:47:56] <@waschito> so? ^^
[13:47:56] <@ips|kab|cable> xD!
[13:48:05] <@ips|kab|cable> errr
[13:48:06] <@ips|kab|cable> fuck
[13:48:07] <@ips|kab|cable> other way round



As far as the mode goes - nothing will be changed. It's still a best of five, two maps will be voted out. One small change: 25 Euros are reserved for the winner, sponsored by clans.de. Keep this in mind. Do you know this page? No? Check its staff, there is someone you should know. If you don't, you're an idiot and have no idea of foreign Brood War. More to that later. Oh, the excitment.



Oldschool Tournament - 75€


Hold on to your seats, this is where it's getting awesome: Broodwar.de also hosts an all-Protoss four player single elimination tournament with four really big names. There are 75 Euros on the line for the winner, so it's not going to be just a row of outdated players fighting. Without further ado, here are the participants:


      ips.Radio (TLO)

To start off with the "newschool" player of the tournament, I'd pick TLO. He's probably known to many StarCraft II fans, as he started out as one of the most successful foreigners shortly after the Beta. I really didn't follow the scene, but I was told he is a really huge name. In Brood War he wasn't that bad either. The Protoss apparently was on the verge of making it to the international top class shortly before the WoL Beta, had some decent records in leagues like the (Wiki)BWCL and was already part of the German National Team. However, there were others just as good as him. He's probably one of the favourites to take the small prize, given that he's still rather active in SCII and kept on training Brood War until the foreign scene broke down.


      Socke[pG]

Now it gets increasingly harder to not write with a massive bias. Socke used to be one of my favourite players back in the day. He participated in (Wiki)WCG 2002 together with one of the other participants. In the golden days of foreign Brood War Socke was considered to be a huge talent of the German scene, despite his young age. He was part of (Wiki)pro Gaming's German wing, member of the German National Team for more than two years, regularly fought in the German premier events, such as the Giga Grand Slams. His skill was rather high, he really was top class - especially his Reaver control was brilliant. He used to kill thousands of Probes with a single Reaver before he flew them into a stray Photon Cannon for no reason ever. Seriously, look out for him. Just like TLO Socke also still plays SCII on a fairly high level. Last time I saw Socke was in late 2010, where he raped me 3-0 in PvP after not having played for more than five years. I was C back then. I seriously hope he maintained that level, or at least did not forget how to micro down any Protoss with his Reavers.


      iv.GoOdy

The third one to join the tournament is (Wiki)GoOdy. He started out as mucho player and was known to mass games whenever he could. He was active since the dawn of time and did well even in the early days. He was not really a push over, played for the German National Team and won several LANs. However, it took a while since the Terran stepped up his game. Around 2007 he switched to Protoss and that's when he made his final break through, at least in my eyes. It didn't take long until he did not only do well in the German scene, but showed his talent during bigger tournaments, like the (Wiki)WCG 2007, in which he made it to the Round of 8. In the TSLs he would've qualified twice with an A- rank, but for some reason he resetted his stats. Nevermind that. He probably was the strongest German Protoss shortly before the Beta.


      FiSheYe[pG]

(Wiki)FiSheYe is a name you have to know and the guy to probably thank for the 100€. Nowadays he runs the project clans.de. Back in 2002 he dominated the German scene. He won so many WCG Nationals, that it's hard to list all his achievements. He also was the only foreigner to almost beat a Korean in a WCG Grand Finals - 1-2, the runner-up of (Wiki)WCG 2003. It's hard to decide what to pick to promote this exceptional foreigner. The silver medal is a must, but how to describe his contributions to strategy? His stellar micro? Him being the killer he was? Seriously, FiSheYe is a legend.


To read more on FiSheYe's dominance, a glimpse on Socke's skill and the history of their clan - progaming - I recommend to read the article Duel of the Fates.


Mode


The mode will be a best of three for each round. Winner advances, loser is out. Easy as that. When exactly this is going to be casted is not sure yet. The stream will be up in the evening hours next Sunday, before or after the German KOTH game. I'd recommend to watch out for a calendar entry!

Maps: Fighting Spirit, Lost Temple, Outsider, Circuit Breakers, Sniper Ridge (2 Vetoes for every Round)

Disclaimer: I have nothing do to with this event. All thanks should be directed at broodwar.de & clans.de for money / structure, Cele for the KOTH and the Tournament, as well as to Gundalf - and all the other helpers, players and so on.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
April 28 2014 10:35 GMT
#2
Oh snap this is some quality shit!
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain356 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 11:19:06
April 28 2014 11:12 GMT
#3
This is so great! I hope there are more KOTHs with known people like this one ^^
Edit: Thanks to whoever sponsored this event
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
April 28 2014 11:17 GMT
#4
hype !
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 28 2014 11:18 GMT
#5
Good luck with this tourney. (All tosses? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
April 28 2014 11:34 GMT
#6
On April 28 2014 20:18 amazingxkcd wrote:
Good luck with this tourney. (All tosses? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)


Socke plays an awesome PvP: BR Mondragon vs. Socke
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 28 2014 11:47 GMT
#7
On April 28 2014 20:18 amazingxkcd wrote:
Good luck with this tourney. (All tosses? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)


that's just for starters, Kab vs Cryococ is gonna be PvT (;

Thx to Gecko for the well written News with the nice quotes from Quints records and everything else he did to support this event.
Broodwar for life!
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
April 28 2014 11:53 GMT
#8
I wanna see mondi in this. looks like we will get some interesting games
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 12:04:59
April 28 2014 12:04 GMT
#9
On April 28 2014 20:53 vanatir wrote:
I wanna see mondi in this. looks like we will get some interesting games


i'd be mildly interested to see Mondragon play aswell (read:I'd sell my firstborn without hesitation!) but, alas, Mondi doesnt really do BW anymore and we weren't able to convince him
Broodwar for life!
KnowMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 12:53:50
April 28 2014 12:50 GMT
#10
pff where is my invite
(yes i played protoss too)

€: oh and im really looking forward to this ofc :D played a few games with delphi and socke a while back. socke was still in quite decent shape
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 28 2014 12:56 GMT
#11
On April 28 2014 21:50 KnowMe wrote:
pff where is my invite
(yes i played protoss too)

€: oh and im really looking forward to this ofc :D played a few games with delphi and socke a while back. socke was still in quite decent shape


yeah, he isnt really out of shape from what i heard too. And the next show match will be your time to shine (;
Broodwar for life!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9571 Posts
April 28 2014 13:31 GMT
#12
OMG FiSheYe!

I remember watching his reps when i just started playing BW online in like 2004. For some reason I remember him as a 2v2 player (probably because I saw some of his 2v2 replays and they stuck with me). Him and BrEaKdOwN were my favorite German players, which reminds me, hopefully we see BrEaKdOwN in one of these events soon. I thought he was still playing BW sporadically.
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
April 28 2014 13:57 GMT
#13
On April 28 2014 22:31 2Pacalypse- wrote:
OMG FiSheYe!

I remember watching his reps when i just started playing BW online in like 2004. For some reason I remember him as a 2v2 player (probably because I saw some of his 2v2 replays and they stuck with me). Him and BrEaKdOwN were my favorite German players, which reminds me, hopefully we see BrEaKdOwN in one of these events soon. I thought he was still playing BW sporadically.


Even if I cannot tell you for sure, but chances that BrEaKdOwN will play are not small. Maybe not in the next two events, but it is definitly possible
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
April 28 2014 14:04 GMT
#14
didn't he break his arm or something?
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain356 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 16:44:37
April 28 2014 14:54 GMT
#15
There was a movie from clan pG that motivated me for many years. I think most of them are Germans. Just nice to watch :D
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 28 2014 15:23 GMT
#16
such an awesome Movie, havent seen that one quite some time (;

How cool two of those are going to play in this event. Besides the germans i spotted Draco, legendary polish P user and ToT)Eriador( aka Liquid'Drone, a norwegian famous zerg who played recently in TLS as well.
Broodwar for life!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 28 2014 22:45 GMT
#17
Somebody wanna help clarify this for me

Aber bitte den Cast nicht wieder auf "englisch" halten. Ich weiß zwar, dass ihr damit mehr Leute erreichen wollt und will auch die Caster damit nicht beleidigen, aber wenn das Englisch einfach nicht flüssig genug gesprochen wird, dann schreckt das imho mehr ab, als es nutzt.


If I reading it wrote he hopes cast won't be in English. Which make sense because it's a German event. However the reasoning seems to be even though he knows you want to reach as big of an audience as possible...and then I get confused.

Can't tell if the next part means that he is worried the caster won't be fluent enough at English and people won't like it, or the German audience is not fluent enough in English to enjoy such a cast and it will scare of German viewers.

Or maybe that's all wrong and I'm just super terrible at German.
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 23:10:40
April 28 2014 23:03 GMT
#18
On April 29 2014 07:45 L_Master wrote:
Somebody wanna help clarify this for me

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Aber bitte den Cast nicht wieder auf "englisch" halten. Ich weiß zwar, dass ihr damit mehr Leute erreichen wollt und will auch die Caster damit nicht beleidigen, aber wenn das Englisch einfach nicht flüssig genug gesprochen wird, dann schreckt das imho mehr ab, als es nutzt.


If I reading it wrote he hopes cast won't be in English. Which make sense because it's a German event. However the reasoning seems to be even though he knows you want to reach as big of an audience as possible...and then I get confused.

Can't tell if the next part means that he is worried the caster won't be fluent enough at English and people won't like it, or the German audience is not fluent enough in English to enjoy such a cast and it will scare of German viewers.

Or maybe that's all wrong and I'm just super terrible at German.



your German is not terrible at all it seems. Here is the translation for you and who else might care:

Revenger wrote:
Just please don't cast in "English" (indicating it's not proper English). I'm aware you want to reach more people by doing so and i don't want to insult the Casters, but if the English isn't fluent, it deters more (people), than it helps (with the viewer count).

To answer that Question: We don't know yet. We're aware our English is far from perfect, as none of us is a native speaker, but on the other hand we wish not to exclude somebody from the Cast by speaking German.

Of course the event was created with the German sub scene in mind, but it should be accessible for everybody else as well.

I have thought about this issue for some time now and haven't come up with a better idea than this:

Poll: Which language would you prefer for the Koth cast?

Gernan, im german speaking (23)
 
34%

english, i dont speak german (18)
 
27%

german, i dont speak german but i don't mind (8)
 
12%

english, i speak german but i prefer/dont mind english casting (18)
 
27%

67 total votes

Your vote: Which language would you prefer for the Koth cast?

(Vote): Gernan, im german speaking
(Vote): english, i dont speak german
(Vote): german, i dont speak german but i don't mind
(Vote): english, i speak german but i prefer/dont mind english casting



Gecko, pls add to the OP, thx a lot

Broodwar for life!
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States473 Posts
April 28 2014 23:40 GMT
#19
YEAhhhhhhhhhhhhhh HYPE! BROODWAR FIGHTING!!!!
How we will win in the period ahead.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
April 29 2014 00:40 GMT
#20
You might want to check out the previous editions, which can be found here (spoilerfree):

KotH #1 Rey vs. Cryoc
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Game 1
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Game 2
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Game 3
+ Show Spoiler +

Game 4
+ Show Spoiler +
not needed

Game 5
+ Show Spoiler +
not needed



KotH #2
+ Show Spoiler +

Cryoc vs TeH
Game 1
+ Show Spoiler +

Game 2
+ Show Spoiler +

Game 3
+ Show Spoiler +

Game 4
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Game 5
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not needed

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