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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
August 18 2015 17:40 GMT
#261
I am not sure if I am right here because it is a general question.

If someone donate to a player, who is paying paypal fees? In some cases the player is rather making loss by 1€ donate if the recipient (player) has to pay the fee.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 19 2015 00:14 GMT
#262
Yeah not the right thread, but yeah they generally pay the fee. Donations under a certain amount (i think .30c?) get completely eaten by paypal.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 19 2015 15:06 GMT
#263
PayPal eats alot
if you receive money for goods or services (such as from selling an item on eBay), the fee for each transaction is 2.9% plus $0.30 USD of the amount you receive

So a €1 donation turns into like 70 cent in Euros, unless the flat .30 $ equates to € that way, in which it becomes like 50cents xD
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fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-23 12:49:45
August 23 2015 12:47 GMT
#264
Hi,
I would like to make a plea for the one.
While there have been very few advances in "gaming social practices" in the last decade, the streaming has "dictated" its pace and axioms to our arguable general benefit.

Is a twitch chat cancer? No.
Does tl need to allow any random number of emotes for those reason? No.

However, the emote that tops them all (in quantity without argument but possibly in quality too) should be awarded a tl existence.

Of course if the purpose is to display the emote there is no discussion to be had, it is clearly wrong.

But writing the letters without the fear of reprisal, awarding the word its due, to use it in a context where no other word could be used seems like something tl should do.
Edit:
"not enough rights"
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 23 2015 15:48 GMT
#265
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-23 19:39:18
August 23 2015 19:38 GMT
#266
On August 23 2015 21:47 fluidrone wrote:
Hi,
I would like to make a plea for the one.
While there have been very few advances in "gaming social practices" in the last decade, the streaming has "dictated" its pace and axioms to our arguable general benefit.

Is a twitch chat cancer? No.
Does tl need to allow any random number of emotes for those reason? No.

However, the emote that tops them all (in quantity without argument but possibly in quality too) should be awarded a tl existence.

Of course if the purpose is to display the emote there is no discussion to be had, it is clearly wrong.

But writing the letters without the fear of reprisal, awarding the word its due, to use it in a context where no other word could be used seems like something tl should do.
Edit:

It is my belief that any Twitch emote that could be used to describe a particular emotion or concept can be explained in normal English well enough to not need the emote, even if the idea conveyed is not as potent or relatable when put in normal text format. For instance, when we see someone use Kappa, or Kreygasm, or PJSalt, we all understand the general idea of why that emote was posted and how it relates to the content being displayed. However, if that much is understood, surely we can translate our emotional ties to these emotes into proper sentence structure that's more conducive to discussion on an Internet forum.

Sure, emotes like Kappa have a certain je ne sais quoi that can't really be matched by words typed out to indicate sarcasm or irony... but because we can do it well enough, we ought to simply disallow emotes to discourage spammy posting behavior. TeamLiquid as a discussion forum and Twitch chat as a real-time barometer of public opinion of a stream are two very different forms of media; communication methods used in one do not necessarily fit the other, despite both being Internet-based.

Keep the emotes on Twitch where they are most useful in engaging other content viewers on a moment-to-moment basis. TL is not the place for that.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 24 2015 13:39 GMT
#267
i find to be a good substitute for GreyFace
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 20:39:50
August 24 2015 20:30 GMT
#268
I mostly meant "Kappa".
That emote for me (I'm sure not for everyone and even for few) means "I want to be here!"

How could you convey any better than with this purposefully absurd way of showing attachment, without the other people being able to find fault with the statement (since you added the emote) that you are happy to be here (maybe without knowing that that is the case, maybe not having any idea of what you are doing).
Ergo the statement is just "hi" in essence (possibly the text beside it is not).

Again, I wasn't advocating any number, just the one to signify that we are in 2015 not 2010.

.. Kreygasm, or PJSalt ..


3 would even be more in tune with the 2015 numerology though, I admit to total "newbiness" in the matter.
I never use "krey" because it is so "suspect" that if you couple it with text it can be construed as so many stuff...
I never spread salt outside of my plate, in this case it is more because I see it as "standard" but on the negative spectrum and I feel there are already more than too many "righteous" "salters" (if a streamer is salty one can call her/him/it on it, while it is fair game, it doesn't take much to pass on it quickly and to make it fun rather than spam).

But I do believe your point was that it is
1/"totally" understandable situational emotes required to not be "permissive"
2/"stuff" not conveyable with words or lessened by being in text that would make an emote "acceptable"
3/stream chat is not a forum

3/ is a given
TWITCH emote and their place on TL


1/is arguable forever

So, about 2/
Yes I do think pictures meant to capture the zeitgeist of a particular "universe" (in our case using forums) should be allowed to add to the layering of our content.

Again, I am advocating for one.
Not awaiting flying monkeys, just trying to get what everybody would associate with the first?

What does Kappa mean?

TLDR: I am not even sure what Kappa means for everyone, how could I use it?

ps: I will wait for a response from anyone before I do my spiel of answering my own question.

pps: I love the thread tittle, "their place on tl" is in this thread, ..so layered, so funny!
"not enough rights"
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 24 2015 21:24 GMT
#269
No!
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 26 2015 08:08 GMT
#270
Yoshi please
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2092 Posts
August 26 2015 18:32 GMT
#271
twitch chat in my opinion is a cess pool of shit. keep that away thank you
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 27 2015 08:59 GMT
#272
twitch chat wud be worse off without twitch emotes tho
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
September 07 2015 10:15 GMT
#273
Thank you tl for leeway.

Also
On August 27 2015 17:59 ahswtini wrote:
twitch chat wud be worse off without twitch emotes tho

Agreed ahswtini.
"not enough rights"
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