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IAmBelieve
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada70 Posts
June 24 2013 17:55 GMT
#1
About me:
Hello TL! My name is LaG.Believe. I am a consistent top 16 Grandmasters playing on NA with LaG Gaming. I have made a replay count with 36 replays, all for your viewing pleasure.

Included games against many well known pros like Quantic Apoc, Grubby, Col Sasquatch, Select, FXO Lowely and even more!

Replays:
Click here to download the .zip : http://rapidshare.com/files/3148212046/Believe's Replay Pack.zip

Just right click on the file and extract the replays. Then you are ready to watch


My Thanks!
Thanks a lot TL for the constant support! If you want to follow me on twitter @LaGTTBelieve.
I also stream pretty much every day on twitch. Follow me there http://www.twitch.tv/iambelieve.

Thanks a lot all my fans and the great people of TL!
Follow me on twitter @BelieveSC2 / My stream at Twitch.tv/IAmBelieve !!!
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
June 24 2013 17:56 GMT
#2
good player
Fortis-Et-Fidus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
June 24 2013 17:59 GMT
#3
I Beileve! haha but seriously very good and friendly player, also highly recommend his stream ^^ high level play vs high level players! LaG Fighting!
"Battle Crusier Operational"
Jackowacko
Profile Joined February 2013
59 Posts
June 24 2013 18:00 GMT
#4
Best Protoss on NA!!

Watch out for him :D

thanks for the replay pack man
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:42:01
June 24 2013 18:03 GMT
#5
Very BM player.
Maru, TY, Clem <3
Halation
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States60 Posts
June 24 2013 18:03 GMT
#6
WOW! thanks for the replays man, this would help a lot of new comers to learn new builds and process of decision making. A very solid player, Last time I saw him he was top 16 on NA server for Grand masters. He's definitely has a lot of talent, and would love to hear from him more. regards Halation
Believe Fighting!!
Requiem Esports
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
June 24 2013 18:11 GMT
#7
this guy makes it in the top 3 control with huk
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 18:13:18
June 24 2013 18:13 GMT
#8
If you guys want to tune in.. He's live!! http://www.twitch.tv/iambelieve
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
June 24 2013 18:13 GMT
#9
this guy bms or makes some sort of snide remark about race/map/balance every time he loses. -,-
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
June 24 2013 18:15 GMT
#10
I know this is bad to do, but lag.tt.believe is a 100% confirmed maphacker on wc3, whether or not he hacks on sc2 I do not know, but he does mostly all ins so it wouldnt be surpising.
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#11
On June 25 2013 03:15 Msr wrote:
I know this is bad to do, but lag.tt.believe is a 100% confirmed maphacker on wc3, whether or not he hacks on sc2 I do not know, but he does mostly all ins so it wouldnt be surpising.

You can tune in bro. http://www.twitch.tv/iambelieve . He's not a hacker.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
June 24 2013 18:24 GMT
#12
lol "friendly player" my ass. Guy and his teammates tend to be nothing but bm. Good replay pack if youre looking for allins though.
aka SethN
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
June 24 2013 18:31 GMT
#13
sorry, but stop supporting this guy, he s soo badmannered
i hate coming into threads like this, but i just want you all to know, that you re watching a really respectless child badmannered whatever's replays
Paradisee
Profile Joined February 2013
United States37 Posts
June 24 2013 18:32 GMT
#14
yeah this guy is super bm allllll the time and racist
And maybe there's no peace in this world, for us or for anyone else, I don't know. But I do know that, as long as we live, we must remain true to ourselves.
Sky.
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada17 Posts
June 24 2013 18:35 GMT
#15
I never saw him bm anyone... ? Never bm'ed me aswell.
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
June 24 2013 18:36 GMT
#16
On June 25 2013 03:13 KawaiiRice wrote:
this guy bms or makes some sort of snide remark about race/map/balance every time he loses. -,-


A snide remark? \ o /
I <3 StarCraft.
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 24 2013 18:40 GMT
#17
You can always tune in http://www.twitch.tv/iambelieve and see for yourself if he's bad mannered -_-
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
June 24 2013 18:42 GMT
#18
This guy makes my BM look like words coming out of an angel's mouth.
ARze
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia45 Posts
June 24 2013 18:45 GMT
#19
LOL this guy is getting own3d
sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
June 24 2013 18:55 GMT
#20
this guy is BM beyond belief, even using racial/ethnic derogatory terms after losing. He doesn't deserve anything.
https://twitter.com/sLideSC2 | (NA)sLide.635 | coL_Sasqautch ~ coL_QXC ~ coL_TriMaster
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
June 24 2013 18:58 GMT
#21
this guy really needs to grow up and work on his behaviour . one of the biggest keyboard warriors i've seen. get a life, kid and stop insulting everyone u meet on the ladder.
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
onetrickponyy
Profile Joined June 2013
6 Posts
June 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#22
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX

Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:04:48
June 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#23
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX


2 things.

1. Jason isn't on our team O.o sooooo....... (http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/12888/lag-gaming/)
2. In your picture, you bmed Believe first. Of course he's going to get mad.
binski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States225 Posts
June 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#24
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX


yeah, believe is incredibly mean and so is his team. BMs in clan wars, ladder, tournaments, nothing stops this guy.
Trogdor89
Profile Joined March 2011
United States17 Posts
June 24 2013 19:05 GMT
#25
Called me trash 100 times in a row because I held off his 4gate, enough said.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
June 24 2013 19:05 GMT
#26
What's more impressive than his top 16 GM on NA is his top 1 BM on NA.
binski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States225 Posts
June 24 2013 19:08 GMT
#27
On June 25 2013 04:04 Xonix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX


2 things.

1. Jason isn't on our team O.o sooooo....... (http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/12888/lag-gaming/)
2. In your picture, you bmed Believe first. Of course he's going to get mad.

Lol, you address 1 post out of the dozen+ in the thread.
onetrickponyy
Profile Joined June 2013
6 Posts
June 24 2013 19:13 GMT
#28
On June 25 2013 04:04 Xonix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX


2 things.

1. Jason isn't on our team O.o sooooo....... (http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/12888/lag-gaming/)
2. In your picture, you bmed Believe first. Of course he's going to get mad.


I bmed him first? Please provide proof.
Here are the replays of the matches if you want them.
http://www.z33k.com/games/starcraft2/tournaments/10450/matches/291086
Siphonn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States298 Posts
June 24 2013 19:14 GMT
#29
Biggest asshole on the NA ladder, he loses and calls you bad the entire time and throws racial slurs at you. He is a pathetic person.
KalinovSC2
Profile Joined January 2013
52 Posts
June 24 2013 19:15 GMT
#30
Extremely bad mannered - It is pretty absurd the things he says.
Jank
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States308 Posts
June 24 2013 19:15 GMT
#31
Rofl he called me a nobody and asked why he's playing trash on the ladder when I held off his 4 gate blink all in. He deserves zero attention until he can grow up.
"You don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day." - Michael Parenti
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
June 24 2013 19:17 GMT
#32
Lol so much karma for being a dick on ladder
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:22:32
June 24 2013 19:18 GMT
#33
this guy is quite the bm'er every time I play him on my normal account or smurf it's always the same bm / unit imba / cry cry cry.

It's actually sad
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
June 24 2013 19:25 GMT
#34
Well this thread went entirely as expected!

Nice one community for exposing! <3
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:30:55
June 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#35
On June 25 2013 03:36 RemarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:13 KawaiiRice wrote:
this guy bms or makes some sort of snide remark about race/map/balance every time he loses. -,-


A snide remark? \ o /

No

Anyway I'm here to join the Believe is very BM club.

EDIT: Also just because someone doesn't hack when they stream doesn't mean they don't hack.
^O^
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
June 24 2013 19:30 GMT
#36
him and some of the LagTT players are quite BM

but yeah he stands out of them all
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
June 24 2013 19:30 GMT
#37
lol this thread is amazing. <3 this thread and karma.
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:40:13
June 24 2013 19:39 GMT
#38
On June 25 2013 03:03 prOxySC2 wrote:
sorry wrong post.

Maru, TY, Clem <3
Guitarcheese
Profile Joined March 2013
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 19:44:19
June 24 2013 19:41 GMT
#39
This guy blatantly streamcheats vs me (i 10 pool he responds with blind 11 gate chroning a zealot before taking gas then proceeds to say "only a player as bad as dustswarm would 10 pool zvp" even though i was barcoded LOL) and other players, he also plays really sketchy offstream too on top of all his excessive bm
KingMahv
Profile Joined April 2013
Denmark3 Posts
June 24 2013 19:50 GMT
#40
This guy is really good. I recommend watching all of his replays because he is a skilled player and has proven that multiple times.
QxGRockEr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States191 Posts
June 24 2013 19:53 GMT
#41
On June 25 2013 03:42 ROOTKane wrote:
This guy makes my BM look like words coming out of an angel's mouth.

lies. His bm is just more intense. You can feel his anger.
LighTeSports
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
June 24 2013 19:55 GMT
#42
On June 25 2013 04:50 KingMahv wrote:
This guy is really good. I recommend watching all of his replays because he is a skilled player and has proven that multiple times.


Annnnd out come the singular number posters to have their say.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
June 24 2013 19:58 GMT
#43
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.
Cardris
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 20:02:50
June 24 2013 20:00 GMT
#44
I don't think I have ever played a more insecure person on ladder than Believe
skn
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden13 Posts
June 24 2013 20:03 GMT
#45
Fantastic! I've been waiting for replay-packs of tosses!
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
June 24 2013 20:03 GMT
#46
On June 25 2013 04:14 Siphonn wrote:
Biggest asshole on the NA ladder, he loses and calls you bad the entire time and throws racial slurs at you. He is a pathetic person.


Pretty much this. I was laughing so hard last time I 3 gate him because of how angry and tryhard he was going once he thought he was dead. I ended up losing, but man, it was so worth the laughs I gained. I have no clue how people like this find themselves on a team. Though, I guess it just says something about the organization as a whole.

P.S: U shouldn't bm the shit out of people on an account that isn't yours. You look even more funny trying to stay anonymous! >.>
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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ROOTSasquatch
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States234 Posts
June 24 2013 20:06 GMT
#47
Wow what a train wreck of a thread

Believe has been nice to me recently but in the past he used to be quite bm, IDK if it's recent for everyone else here or just past grudges.
partsasquatch on reddit
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
June 24 2013 20:06 GMT
#48
On June 25 2013 04:50 KingMahv wrote:
This guy is really good. I recommend watching all of his replays because he is a skilled player and has proven that multiple times.

LOL! Wonder who this is.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
jayaiwhy
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia88 Posts
June 24 2013 20:07 GMT
#49
On June 25 2013 05:06 ASasquatch wrote:
Wow what a train wreck of a thread

Believe has been nice to me recently but in the past he used to be quite bm, IDK if it's recent for everyone else here or just past grudges.

recent.
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
June 24 2013 20:18 GMT
#50
yeah recent here too, in tournnaments aswell...
Maru, TY, Clem <3
puppylisk
Profile Joined February 2013
United States47 Posts
June 24 2013 20:19 GMT
#51
Out of everyone I know, I know a single person who likes him, and I know a lot of fucking people.
http://www.twitch.tv/puppylisk
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
June 24 2013 20:23 GMT
#52
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.

Believe me (pun intended), he's unpleasant when he wins as well. The first time I played him, he started screaming at me, telling me how bad I was, while attacking. He should probably seek professional help before he breaks his hand punching a wall or something.
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 24 2013 20:26 GMT
#53
On June 25 2013 05:06 ASasquatch wrote:
Wow what a train wreck of a thread

Believe has been nice to me recently but in the past he used to be quite bm, IDK if it's recent for everyone else here or just past grudges.
It's all old stuff Sasquatch
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
June 24 2013 20:30 GMT
#54
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.

The entire team is catching flak because everytime someone from lag loses you get bm'd. Also, the positive comments are all probably a lag team circle jerk inside the thread
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
June 24 2013 20:31 GMT
#55
On June 25 2013 04:50 KingMahv wrote:
This guy is really good. I recommend watching all of his replays because he is a skilled player and has proven that multiple times.

Can't (lag)believe that LAG would sink so low as to make smurf accounts to try and support their players. What a disaster.
^O^
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
June 24 2013 20:33 GMT
#56
On June 25 2013 05:26 Xonix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:06 ASasquatch wrote:
Wow what a train wreck of a thread

Believe has been nice to me recently but in the past he used to be quite bm, IDK if it's recent for everyone else here or just past grudges.
It's all old stuff Sasquatch


what he does is tries to suck up to you really hard and then if you dont fall for it he goes back to bm'ing you. he's tried it at least twice with me. it's just funny how hard he tries to brownnose
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 24 2013 20:37 GMT
#57
On June 25 2013 05:31 Moa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:50 KingMahv wrote:
This guy is really good. I recommend watching all of his replays because he is a skilled player and has proven that multiple times.

Can't (lag)believe that LAG would sink so low as to make smurf accounts to try and support their players. What a disaster.

I really don't know that account T_T. It's none of our players.
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
June 24 2013 20:37 GMT
#58
On June 25 2013 05:33 ROOTKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:26 Xonix wrote:
On June 25 2013 05:06 ASasquatch wrote:
Wow what a train wreck of a thread

Believe has been nice to me recently but in the past he used to be quite bm, IDK if it's recent for everyone else here or just past grudges.
It's all old stuff Sasquatch


what he does is tries to suck up to you really hard and then if you dont fall for it he goes back to bm'ing you. he's tried it at least twice with me. it's just funny how hard he tries to brownnose

who wouldn't want to suck up to you
citron
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada6 Posts
June 24 2013 20:38 GMT
#59
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX



That's me in those screenshots. I was a Platiunum Protoss at the time playing him in the tournament, and he lost.

Replay: http://www.z33k.com/games/starcraft2/tournaments/10451/matches/291272
vNmMasterT
Profile Joined September 2012
68 Posts
June 24 2013 20:39 GMT
#60
Ah, a bm player from the unprofessional team who is too late to claim its clan tag.
HarryDresden
Profile Joined August 2011
United States59 Posts
June 24 2013 20:41 GMT
#61
As much as I love the team and know that most of the players are great people, I cannot support Believe. I cannot Believe all of his bad manners.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 24 2013 20:48 GMT
#62
is also a very cheesy player, watch if you want to learn out to cheese your opponent back to bronze league!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 24 2013 20:51 GMT
#63
On June 25 2013 05:48 shell wrote:
is also a very cheesy player, watch if you want to learn out to cheese your opponent back to bronze league!

Or look at the replays of macro games -_-
azndude3194
Profile Joined May 2009
United States156 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 20:53:59
June 24 2013 20:53 GMT
#64
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.


A little upset? he literally calls everyone trash and starts throwing out extremely racist slurs whenever his cheese doesn't work or he gets outplayed. I don't have anything against LaG and I think everyone else on the team are really good guys, but I can't stand this guy.
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
June 24 2013 20:55 GMT
#65
On June 25 2013 05:53 azndude3194 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.


A little upset? he literally calls everyone trash and starts throwing out extremely racist slurs whenever his cheese doesn't work or he gets outplayed. I don't have anything against LaG and I think everyone else on the team are really good guys, but I can't stand this guy.


pretty much, why I turned down an offer to tryout for lag... As i dont want to be associated with it.
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 24 2013 20:56 GMT
#66
On June 25 2013 05:55 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 05:53 azndude3194 wrote:
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.


A little upset? he literally calls everyone trash and starts throwing out extremely racist slurs whenever his cheese doesn't work or he gets outplayed. I don't have anything against LaG and I think everyone else on the team are really good guys, but I can't stand this guy.


pretty much, why I turned down an offer to tryout for lag... As i dont want to be associated with it.

Whats your username?
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
June 24 2013 21:02 GMT
#67
tuned into his stream. saw mostly sub par play, cheese, and the occasional bm. would not recommend.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Sky.
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada17 Posts
June 24 2013 21:02 GMT
#68
IdrA used to be very bm too. But a lot of people gave him a chance and respects him. Believe is really trying to improve his manners, I don't why we can't give him a chance.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 21:09:40
June 24 2013 21:08 GMT
#69
He played idra 3 times in a row a few minutes ago, didn't watch the first game but it was cheese and idra won, 2nd game it was 2 proxy gateways and believe won and 3rd game he tried to cannon rush idra's natural and got caught and lost the game after going mass void rays with DT's..

All of that with fake smiles and a "trying to be funny" attitude..

The games were bad and he wasn't funny at all.. didn't watch his replays and after what i saw plus what i read.. i won't...
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Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
June 24 2013 21:45 GMT
#70
This thread is jokes xD Believe has always been nice to me and as such we're friends. With that said, I am aware of his crazy bm and feel he needs to make a genuine effort to lighten up ^^
GZSwanson
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada25 Posts
June 24 2013 22:00 GMT
#71
So much rage in this thread - thanks for the replays
Generally always 90% of the time DTs are a good idea
Sterling
Profile Joined December 2009
United States182 Posts
June 24 2013 22:02 GMT
#72
BM user
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
June 24 2013 22:16 GMT
#73
this guy purposely tanks his mmr so he can look good for his students when coaching, so he can look good with a good record. he is also a bm little shit. i dont know why he thinks he can go on teamliquid and advertise himself on here.
FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
June 24 2013 22:23 GMT
#74
Aside from being super ultra BM on the ladder, Believe's replays are quite good. He is a really solid player. I wish he was respectful
oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
June 24 2013 23:16 GMT
#75
I don't understand all this bashing when he opened this thread only to make some high level replays available for everyone. Who cares if he is bm? We should only thank him.
ChuSeo
Profile Joined February 2011
United States8 Posts
June 24 2013 23:45 GMT
#76
It's interesting how he has over a 1000 game played, and only 36 macro games.
Always BM me, but it's okay cus I defend his 10gate all the time~
Big shoes, Big socks..
jonaa
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands151 Posts
June 24 2013 23:48 GMT
#77
On June 25 2013 04:50 KingMahv wrote:
This guy is really good. I recommend watching all of his replays because he is a skilled player and has proven that multiple times.


That doesn't sound generic at all, there's no way your a friend told to post this or even a second acount.
D:
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
June 25 2013 00:12 GMT
#78
On June 25 2013 05:06 ASasquatch wrote:
Wow what a train wreck of a thread

Believe has been nice to me recently but in the past he used to be quite bm, IDK if it's recent for everyone else here or just past grudges.

nah no past grudges, he bm'ed my barcode account just last week.

TBH I could careless.. I think he needs to grow up but hey that might just be me, but it is a nice thing to post a rep pack.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
June 25 2013 00:46 GMT
#79
Checked a few PvZ's but it were all no scout risky plays into cheese, not very interesting to see.
ROOTSasquatch
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 00:52:17
June 25 2013 00:51 GMT
#80
On June 25 2013 09:46 Markwerf wrote:
Checked a few PvZ's but it were all no scout risky plays into cheese, not very interesting to see.


Yeah I agree with this, I don't think he's a very good player to copy because most of the time he doesn't scout and commits to certain things blind. Still good if you want that kind of build for a bo3/bo5/etc situation though I suppose.
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chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
June 25 2013 00:55 GMT
#81
This guy is like a dumber version of CombatEX
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:21:59
June 25 2013 01:10 GMT
#82
On June 25 2013 08:16 KingAlphard wrote:
I don't understand all this bashing when he opened this thread only to make some high level replays available for everyone. Who cares if he is bm? We should only thank him.


Actually I'm of the opposite opinion. I think it's very good that his BM caught up to him like this. Wp TL
I also find it pretty funny that had absolutely nothing to say in his defense
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
June 25 2013 01:30 GMT
#83
One can only hope that this thread is a wakeup call for him and that he stops behaving like some X17 reject. If he acts more mature maybe he can get somewhere.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 25 2013 01:42 GMT
#84
On June 25 2013 10:30 Eatme wrote:
One can only hope that this thread is a wakeup call for him and that he stops behaving like some X17 reject. If he acts more mature maybe he can get somewhere.


x17 lol, way to bring back some old memories.
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Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:52:58
June 25 2013 01:52 GMT
#85
Wow I thought maybe this was an old thread with all the replies but damn didn't expect to see all the hate.

I know everytime I beat his immortal all in, gateway all in or proxy gates it never fails for him to complain about balance. I don't really recall him ever saying anything to excessive, but then again I have him on my ignore list so maybe I just didn't see it.
When I think of something else, something will go here
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
June 25 2013 01:54 GMT
#86
On June 25 2013 09:55 chadissilent wrote:
This guy is like a dumber version of CombatEX


I wouldn't go that far.
Can you feel the rush?
IamZieK
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada162 Posts
June 25 2013 02:20 GMT
#87
bmed me so hard when I beat him on ladder decent player just very bm
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
June 25 2013 02:25 GMT
#88
wow! guy just BM'd me on the ladder too! cant believe this guy!!
Nooborghini
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada136 Posts
June 25 2013 02:31 GMT
#89
On June 25 2013 03:40 Xonix wrote:
You can always tune in http://www.twitch.tv/iambelieve and see for yourself if he's bad mannered -_-


I remember this one instance where this guy BMs a plat player in a tournament when he got 4 gated. He loses to ANYONE and he FLIPS OUT. (Real plat player, not non-placed.)

When he lost to the plat in the tournament, he would bm him for like 15 mins straight.

He snipes me via stream and loses and complains but that's beside the case. I first met him at the eSports Canada LAN, he was like all friendly and asked for practice etc. After LAN ETS he just started being the most BM person even after helping him out with irl stuff. He's very two faced. I regret ever helping this guy. This child is ridiculously BM but he's like 16 or something so it makes sense why he's so BM. However, good replay pack if you want to have gimmicky cheese/all-ins.

As for a player that is trying to contribute to the community? I'll give it few weeks before something racist, rude or whatever BM is thrown around.
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IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
June 25 2013 02:34 GMT
#90
Well based on these comments I'll add him to my list of players to never support.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2385 Posts
June 25 2013 03:49 GMT
#91
On June 25 2013 06:02 Sky. wrote:
IdrA used to be very bm too. But a lot of people gave him a chance and respects him. Believe is really trying to improve his manners, I don't why we can't give him a chance.

He makes IdrA look like a saint
Progamer
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 25 2013 04:21 GMT
#92
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX



to be fair, you are terrible
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 25 2013 04:24 GMT
#93
On June 25 2013 09:51 ASasquatch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 09:46 Markwerf wrote:
Checked a few PvZ's but it were all no scout risky plays into cheese, not very interesting to see.


Yeah I agree with this, I don't think he's a very good player to copy because most of the time he doesn't scout and commits to certain things blind. Still good if you want that kind of build for a bo3/bo5/etc situation though I suppose.


scoutless all ins get you to kr gm pvz anyways

~starcraft 2~
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
ROOTSasquatch
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 05:21:43
June 25 2013 04:39 GMT
#94
On June 25 2013 13:21 Let it Raine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX



to be fair, you are terrible


Wow Raine that's not nice
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KoMA_
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada65 Posts
June 25 2013 05:33 GMT
#95
This kid's definitely a goon.
DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
June 25 2013 05:47 GMT
#96
These comments make me sad : /
eLeVaTioN
Profile Joined February 2012
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 05:56:19
June 25 2013 05:52 GMT
#97
On June 25 2013 06:02 Sky. wrote:
IdrA used to be very bm too. But a lot of people gave him a chance and respects him. Believe is really trying to improve his manners, I don't why we can't give him a chance.


There's a huge difference between just calling someone a bad player/using some profanity and using racial slurs/other very offensive language against every player you come across as well as the many accusations I've heard of him stream cheating. I don't understand how any organization could even support a player that acts like Believe does.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 25 2013 05:54 GMT
#98
lol all the low post count people are defending him, wonder why.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
HyperDesi
Profile Joined February 2011
63 Posts
June 25 2013 06:13 GMT
#99
He started bming me in a friendly cw.
DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
June 25 2013 06:20 GMT
#100
I know believe is a BM guy but by personal experience meeting him at a Lan even taking a game off him where he didn't bm (And this was in WoL) he came off as a really nice guy. I'm not saying you should support him or stop flaming him but give him a chance if he does straighten his act. I don't think someone should be permanently shunned from the community just because they weren't manner at a point in their life.
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
June 25 2013 06:35 GMT
#101
of course, bm guys are more friendly on lan events. guess they just want to survive the event. ;-)
must be quite hard to flame like 20 people every day and finally meet them in real life (i once made a bet, that nerchio would never participate on a lan event. well, i lost ^^).
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DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
June 25 2013 07:03 GMT
#102
Well I guess it's not hard but my point is that at least he's not a dick in real life aswell as online.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
June 25 2013 17:02 GMT
#103
From what I've seen he tried to improve his manners only with known people so that would give him a respectable reputation, but in reality I've seen too much BM from him that it just makes me uncomfortable talking to this guy. Used tot have respect for him but I guess some people never change.
On the other hand he does have good build orders and this replay pack might be able to help some lower level players to improve.
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
June 25 2013 17:39 GMT
#104
Believe has #1 brown nosing NA. I echo all the negative comments about him being bm and sucking up etc. He definitely needs to do a lot of self-improvement as a person if he wants many friends in this community. But, he is still quite young and maybe he can mature? Its not completely unheard of for that sort of thing to happen.

Replay pack wise, he has many good all-ins and cheeses though. If people want to learn just some blind all-in builds you can mix in a bo5 or bo3, its probably a pretty good replay pack. Don't expect a lot of scouting though, most of his all-in builds are committed before any scout from what I've seen PvP and PvZ.

Try hard or don't try at all.
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
June 25 2013 17:50 GMT
#105
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.


This has to be the biggest load of shit I've heard in awhile. "nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given" Really? Do you even read what you are saying before you hit post? It isn't given because it was never earned in the first place. With his BM no one is going to respect him regardless.

"not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either" Your players represent your team. If you were ever going to try to be a legit team with real sponsors, you would know this. No one is going to want to back a team with players like this, and if they did it would have to be a REALLY big name to be able to work around it. Hell look at all the real pro teams... You get canned for saying stupid shit it sometimes just takes longer. Why is this a hard concept to understand? This is the definition of "beating a dead horse".

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dFallDeMoN
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom25 Posts
June 25 2013 17:52 GMT
#106
hes a complete douche
AlexCMoi
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada69 Posts
June 25 2013 17:53 GMT
#107
Terrible player and terrible manner. GO download desrow reppack instead.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 25 2013 17:55 GMT
#108
On June 26 2013 02:53 AlexCMoi wrote:
Terrible player and terrible manner. GO download desrow reppack instead.


thats bs
good player terrible manner
thats the way to describe him

its sad btw he could be so much more with better manners
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zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
June 25 2013 18:17 GMT
#109
On June 25 2013 04:18 EGLzGaMeR wrote:
this guy is quite the bm'er every time I play him on my normal account or smurf it's always the same bm / unit imba / cry cry cry.

It's actually sad

I didn't want to believe it..but coming from LzGaMeR it has to be true. /cry
PMiND
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada11 Posts
June 25 2013 18:20 GMT
#110
I heard only complaints about Believe from my players for the BM attitude, both in live and online events. I also saw what happened on Nooborghini's stream. I can't talk about the skill, i'm not a good player
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ChEDo
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada310 Posts
June 25 2013 19:19 GMT
#111
On June 26 2013 02:55 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:53 AlexCMoi wrote:
Terrible player and terrible manner. GO download desrow reppack instead.


thats bs
good player terrible manner
thats the way to describe him

its sad btw he could be so much more with better manners

having manners doesnt make you better, unless you mean better as a person?
Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 19:44:34
June 25 2013 19:43 GMT
#112
On June 26 2013 04:19 ChEDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:55 CoR wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:53 AlexCMoi wrote:
Terrible player and terrible manner. GO download desrow reppack instead.


thats bs
good player terrible manner
thats the way to describe him

its sad btw he could be so much more with better manners

having manners doesnt make you better, unless you mean better as a person?


Im not the original poster of that statement, but I do believe there's some truth to that. Associated with good manners are usually calmness and open mindedness (not getting pissed off as well), traits which are very helpful to improve. If you've got a shitty negative mindset, that's gonna impair your learning quite a bit.
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
June 25 2013 20:10 GMT
#113
Clicked on this thread to see entertaining posts about his BM.. Was not disappointed.

Seriously though it's a problem when no matter whose stream I'm watching if they hit believe they mention his BM AND he shows bm in the game. Not to mention any time you have to play him yourself in anything.
iS.SunnY, writer extraordinaire. Miami CSL!
FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
June 25 2013 20:13 GMT
#114
It must take some skill to get to the top 25 GM. Just every game I've seen him play he has BM'd. Even in tryouts he was bm, that is why we didn't take him (year ago).

I do feel that even tho he is BM posting replays does help the community, I know HelloKitty posts replays as well if any other protoss is looking for replays.

I just hope Believe gets less BM the older he gets.
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IAmBelieve
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada70 Posts
June 25 2013 20:32 GMT
#115
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418788
^ Apology, sorry to all.
Follow me on twitter @BelieveSC2 / My stream at Twitch.tv/IAmBelieve !!!
puppylisk
Profile Joined February 2013
United States47 Posts
June 25 2013 20:46 GMT
#116
On June 26 2013 05:32 IAmBelieve wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418788
^ Apology, sorry to all.


This would have maybe worked or even carried a little weight if you haven't tried things like this 35 times before.
http://www.twitch.tv/puppylisk
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
June 25 2013 20:52 GMT
#117
On June 25 2013 13:21 Let it Raine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX



to be fair, you are terrible


wow real Raine?
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
ROOTSasquatch
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States234 Posts
June 25 2013 21:45 GMT
#118
On June 26 2013 02:39 Poo wrote:
Believe has #1 brown nosing NA. I echo all the negative comments about him being bm and sucking up etc. He definitely needs to do a lot of self-improvement as a person if he wants many friends in this community. But, he is still quite young and maybe he can mature? Its not completely unheard of for that sort of thing to happen.

Replay pack wise, he has many good all-ins and cheeses though. If people want to learn just some blind all-in builds you can mix in a bo5 or bo3, its probably a pretty good replay pack. Don't expect a lot of scouting though, most of his all-in builds are committed before any scout from what I've seen PvP and PvZ.



damn this was such a canadian post
partsasquatch on reddit
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
June 25 2013 22:14 GMT
#119
On June 26 2013 05:52 Moosegills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 13:21 Let it Raine wrote:
On June 25 2013 03:59 onetrickponyy wrote:
Take a look at these screenshots, you can see the true colours of him and his team.

http://imgur.com/a/fUzSX



to be fair, you are terrible


wow real Raine?

wow real Moosegills?
^O^
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 22:21:03
June 25 2013 22:20 GMT
#120
On June 26 2013 06:45 ASasquatch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:39 Poo wrote:
Believe has #1 brown nosing NA. I echo all the negative comments about him being bm and sucking up etc. He definitely needs to do a lot of self-improvement as a person if he wants many friends in this community. But, he is still quite young and maybe he can mature? Its not completely unheard of for that sort of thing to happen.

Replay pack wise, he has many good all-ins and cheeses though. If people want to learn just some blind all-in builds you can mix in a bo5 or bo3, its probably a pretty good replay pack. Don't expect a lot of scouting though, most of his all-in builds are committed before any scout from what I've seen PvP and PvZ.



damn this was such a canadian post

is that like.. a recipe for succes? i mean he is a top grandmaster player... and please refrain yourselves from protoss easy stuff... he does have some skill in doing those all-ins or so...
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
Batiste
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom69 Posts
June 25 2013 22:20 GMT
#121
If you've watched TubbyTheFat he proves this guy Maphacks and stuff, also extremely BM
Professional Virtual Fifa Player trying SC2
HornyHydra
Profile Joined February 2011
Taiwan222 Posts
June 25 2013 22:24 GMT
#122
On June 25 2013 04:58 aBstractx wrote:
i can appreciate some of the things being said in this thread, but believe is a human you know, like all of you.so maybe sometimes he gets a bit upset when he loses a game that he's extremely passionate about. hes working on it. there's nothing more we can do but move forward and try to earn back the respect that clearly isn't being given t.t

not sure why the entire team is catching flak for this either. if you have a personal problem with believe then that's that, but to bash our entire team for an individual beef you have with someone seems a little uncalled for if you ask me. If you guys don't really have anything nice to say then spare us, please.


He carries your team tag, and sponsors (if you have them, I'm not sure if you do, sorry) on his back in tournaments. His actions represent that of your team. I've seen posts from this team and it seems like the team as a whole aspires to be professional and well-known. To have a player behaving this way is unprofessional and a professional organization should not/cannot tolerate this kind of behavior. The fact that a player in the organization does behave in such a way speaks to the professionalism of the organization. I have no intentions of bashing you, Believe, or the team, but I'm simply explaining to you why people do not see this as an acceptable form of behavior and why it is in the best interests of the team for this behavior to cease.
Prime ♥
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
June 25 2013 22:29 GMT
#123
On June 26 2013 07:20 Batiste wrote:
If you've watched TubbyTheFat he proves this guy Maphacks and stuff, also extremely BM


You should post something to back this up, maphacking accusations aren't something that should be made lightly and certainly not without substantial evidence.
^O^
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
June 25 2013 22:39 GMT
#124
So this went well.
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