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Hello- I mainly play protoss- And I find myself constantley not able to do what I want fast enoughf.
I try drilling mouse speed and acuracy by playing a custom map that only has 4 min right against the Nexus- And I just practice telling em to mine and do that over and over
i use the f keys and the 1-9 and the letters as quick commands
but are there any more drills to increase speed- and are there any more hotkeys that I'm missing- or anyway to reprograhm the keyboard?
In reps the gosu players' left hand seems to stay over the (ert-sdfg-cv)keys- That would be allot easier than trying to press 1 twice to look at my zealots then 0 twice to look at my nexus area. any ideas? O_O
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM GOD DAMN IT NO MORE APM THREADS, GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF.
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I use 1-3 for troops, 4 for special units like DA's and stormers, 5 for my main nexus, 6 for my 2nd expo, 7 for my first expo, 8 for my shuttle, 9 for my robo, and 0 for my obs. When I need to macro I press f2 for my gates, f3 for my choke, and f4 for where my opponents shit mainly is (like where the terran is pushing)
I'm at school and I'll edit later
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[R] where can i download apm ???
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use the fork to slowly cut 1/3 of your keyboard (use napkins for juice) at a time, then eat.
edit to contribute: There is no real shortcut, you just have to play a ton of games. As long as you are using your hotkeys you will gradually get faster.
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Jesus.
Yeah well just remember to use hotkey and somewhat spam with your mouse so you're 'warm', how much you're apm usually is? Cause obviously apm isn't any key to success. Usually you just need to play more, too much hotkey spamming just distracts you, apm will increase as your skill does, if it's like below 100 at least.
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Braavos36372 Posts
apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm
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On May 24 2006 11:47 Hot_Bid wrote: apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm
LoL
<3
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On May 24 2006 11:47 Hot_Bid wrote: apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm Some sweet weed U`ve got, indeed.
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On May 24 2006 12:04 SP)diQ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 11:47 Hot_Bid wrote: apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm Some sweet weed U`ve got, indeed. 
The stickiest of the icky
Anyways, spamming every now in then really does help you get used to hotkeys. Also, I used to just think this was a myth, but watching first person vods is amazing inspiration to try to be asian
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Braavos36372 Posts
asias hab nothing 2 do with apm. round eyes can hab the apm, but y need? no need!
no need 4 more than 100 apm bc spam spam spam no do nothing 4 raping @ right? u win with low apm no need 300 nada apm, it clear just spam spam spam spam.
why u think asian fingers faster? small and tiny fingers SUPER use for electronics making dat why. nada no progamer he make toy car go fast bc he spam spam spam wire, it clear.
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Braavos36372 Posts
sorry, change "nada no progamer" to "IF nada no progamer"
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On May 24 2006 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote: asias hab nothing 2 do with apm. round eyes can hab the apm, but y need? no need!
no need 4 more than 100 apm bc spam spam spam no do nothing 4 raping @ right? u win with low apm no need 300 nada apm, it clear just spam spam spam spam.
why u think asian fingers faster? small and tiny fingers SUPER use for electronics making dat why. nada no progamer he make toy car go fast bc he spam spam spam wire, it clear.
On May 24 2006 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote: sorry, change "nada no progamer" to "IF nada no progamer" HE'S BACK <3
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watch first person vods and copy them. It will surley increase your knowledge if you suck that much.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
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Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers?
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Braavos36372 Posts
On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians
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even non-asians can have good apm if they R on crack ;]
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On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers?
I hear you have to dilute it with water and take it as an enema o.0
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eat dog, eat dog, and.... eat dog
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i do kinda want to know how to increase my speed. >_<
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On May 24 2006 14:05 Trey5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? I hear you have to dilute it with water and take it as an enema o.0
I hear you have to dissolve it in an solvent to make it a thinner solution then shoot it into your right forearm.
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On May 24 2006 14:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 14:05 Trey5 wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? I hear you have to dilute it with water and take it as an enema o.0 I hear you have to dissolve it in an solvent to make it a thinner solution then shoot it into your right forearm.
o rly?
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Red Bull or a Monster with keyboard Samsung SEM-DT35 or maybe a logitech or microsoft since they dont sell them outside of kor with a logitech mx300 and either a func pad or everglide mousepad (Go look up a thread on GEAR). GEAR BABY ITS ALL ABOUT GEAR. All you newbs who say gear doesnt matter i can play with a basic keyboard and mouse blah blah blah try switchin your gear for once and see the vast improvement in speed. Get off of Nada's lil nut's yall jus jealous that his lil ass with his 400 apm makes u dumbfounded(durrr?!?! how does he do it?) makin u ask urself why you cant achieve this and must be due to small fingers and spamming.... ask nonkors day and froz what they know bout apm. You supposedly think that all all high apmers JUST spam which is not true. Stop standin there lookin retarded with your comments, go watch a Nada fp VOD. Its all about GEAR. Every high apm pro gots it. Its like swinging a baseball with a twig. You need a mo freakin BAT not a damn twig.
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Anyways, spamming every now in then really does help you get used to hotkeys. First labtops and now this.
You need to read a book. That's really rather pathetic. You are making me more disappointed in the public education system everyday.
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On May 24 2006 15:22 Paragon wrote:Show nested quote +Anyways, spamming every now in then really does help you get used to hotkeys. First labtops and now this. You need to read a book. That's really rather pathetic. You are making me more disappointed in the public education system everyday.
hahahaha
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On May 24 2006 15:22 Paragon wrote:Show nested quote +Anyways, spamming every now in then really does help you get used to hotkeys. First labtops and now this. You need to read a book. That's really rather pathetic. You are making me more disappointed in the public education system everyday.

Just used to talkin that way. I actually maintain like a 4.5, which isn't much considering how easy high school is, but meh.
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On May 24 2006 14:41 Sequence~ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 14:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:On May 24 2006 14:05 Trey5 wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? I hear you have to dilute it with water and take it as an enema o.0 I hear you have to dissolve it in an solvent to make it a thinner solution then shoot it into your right forearm. o rly?
And by the way,
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Vatican City State27 Posts
play more... i started at around ~50 apm and after playing +500 more games i'm now in the ~150-180 apm..
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On May 24 2006 12:22 Hot_Bid wrote: asias hab nothing 2 do with apm. round eyes can hab the apm, but y need? no need!
no need 4 more than 100 apm bc spam spam spam no do nothing 4 raping @ right? u win with low apm no need 300 nada apm, it clear just spam spam spam spam.
why u think asian fingers faster? small and tiny fingers SUPER use for electronics making dat why. nada no progamer he make toy car go fast bc he spam spam spam wire, it clear.
Man, you've got THE most incoherant posts I've ever read. Props ^^
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spam 12121212121212121212121212121212121212121212121212 1231231231231231231231231231313123213213123123123 45454545454545454545454545454545 112233112233112233112233 0909009090900900909090 4567456745674567 0909900009 1231323123132313213231231323132132
if that doesnt work, try again. ^.^? post over yes?
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On May 24 2006 11:47 Hot_Bid wrote: apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm RETURN OF THE KING!!!!!!!
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On May 24 2006 11:47 Hot_Bid wrote: apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm
Amen.
lol, I just HATE it when fags bring up Fisheye all the fucking time!
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it's not about spamming keyboard. just click fucking faster. if you can't try fucking more
someone make my answer a sticky
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Do that till you die.
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slam your hotkeys really hard each game and eventually you do it naturally
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On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians kkkkkk asian on crack apm better increase 20%
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apm creme that s the trick
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On May 24 2006 18:05 tadste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians kkkkkk asian on crack apm better increase 20%
So apply APM creme on an asian who's on crack then eat the whole lot? :O
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keycraft is the program for remapping keyboard shortcuts.
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Your APM will increase overtime, as more and more you play. You could also take the faster method and apply the APM Creme.
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Just follow your heart. that's what i do. whenever you aren't doing anything, press down your 0 key and keep it pressed. it'll put your APM at 400 for a few seconds here and there, which will increase your average by a lot.
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On May 24 2006 18:27 HappyManRun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 18:05 tadste wrote:On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians kkkkkk asian on crack apm better increase 20% So apply APM creme on an asian who's on crack then eat the whole lot? :O yeah u have to eat an asian to increase apm
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On May 24 2006 11:47 Hot_Bid wrote: apm means nothing omg apm not equal speed noboyd need more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine wgt and some111 i know has 80 apm cam own u all apm mean nothing (though i hab 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look fisheye 2 he good wit low apm funniest man to grace tlnet
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Also, hold down your hotkeys when you have nothing to do, that's what g.s)kyo does. (Not kidding, he does it)
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nvm
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
penisepnisepnsenepsisepnisepnisepsenspeinepenis
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On May 25 2006 07:13 JD_Smee wrote: And I cant believe the total nooobness asinine responses in this thread.
He wants to increase his speed, also known as APM. He didnt say he wants to learn how to spam higher apm to show off to his friends.
Dear lord......
welcome to the internet
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On May 25 2006 07:13 JD_Smee wrote: And I cant believe the total nooobness asinine responses in this thread.
He wants to increase his speed, also known as APM. He didnt say he wants to learn how to spam higher apm to show off to his friends.
Dear lord......
"nooobness" ain't an adjective buddy!
but thanks for enlightening us all about what apm is
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*Clears throat*
omgomg apm = skill noobs 80 apm+ = D- 100 apm + = D+ must haf 250 apm to get past b lollol
*Runs*
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Ever wonder why apm whores like Nada arent winning everything lately Fisheye has like 220 apm and he rapes most foreigners
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There is no point in trying to increase your APM when your hand is slow in the first place. First concentrate on becoming better, then increasing handspeed. If you just try increasing handspeed, then you'll suck. Period.
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Braavos36372 Posts
On May 25 2006 11:01 WhatisProtoss wrote: There is no point in trying to increase your APM when your hand is slow in the first place. First concentrate on becoming better, then increasing handspeed. If you just try increasing handspeed, then you'll suck. Period. u say no point increase APM b/c YOU apm so low, like u brain score same low.
hahahaha. period.
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Braavos36372 Posts
also u stupid protoss is race in BW, u maybe no give advice if u not know what protoss is
-_-
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You shouldn't aspire to having high APM. It should be something that comes to you as a biproduct of practice. Play at a speed you're comfortable with to maximize efficency.
Most people with high APM spend 50% or more of it on hotkeys, so to answer your question you can have faster APM by spamming them more. This may seem childish... probably because it is. Not to mention you're wasting time by doing it.
Asians have smaller penises than americans so they feel the need to compensate by spamming their hotkeys more. Kind of like how rednecks with small penises always drive the biggest trucks. Next time you play some 300+ korean on pgtour check his APM distribution. Don't feel intimidated
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On May 25 2006 13:08 WastedYouth wrote: You shouldn't aspire to having high APM. It should be something that comes to you as a biproduct of practice. Play at a speed you're comfortable with to maximize efficency.
Most people with high APM spend 50% or more of it on hotkeys, so to answer your question you can have faster APM by spamming them more. This may seem childish... probably because it is. Not to mention you're wasting time by doing it.
Asians have smaller penises than americans so they feel the need to compensate by spamming their hotkeys more. Kind of like how rednecks with small penises always drive the biggest trucks. Next time you play some 300+ korean on pgtour check his APM distribution. Don't feel intimidated u: "U NO NEED TO INCREASE APM, APM IS SHIT LIKE AMERICAN ALWAYS BIG PENIS LOLOL " me:" stfu he didnt ask how do i play better, he asked how do i increase apm no need for ur speeches, idiot."
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Think of the bos' you are used to do , now think of a kind of routine at least at the beginning , and then tell you 'what should I do next or now' and do it faster. Try not to separate unit management from macro except when you need to intense micro (my #1 failing and I'm certainly not the only one in that case). Last but not least : try to have the highest effective apm when you think you are 'dominating'/not engaged in a fight because 1) when under pressure I usually go faster whereas when 'dominating' some people, including me, have a tendency to slow down (10 effective apms 'lost' is already something), 2) if you're fast enough in these not-so-intense moments you'll be faster in the most important as a result me thinks. Shit theory but that is a kind of challenge to oneself that I think is not uninteresting.
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
On May 24 2006 19:57 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote: Just follow your heart. that's what i do. whenever you aren't doing anything, press down your 0 key and keep it pressed. it'll put your APM at 400 for a few seconds here and there, which will increase your average by a lot.
perfectly written. follow your heart.
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Arg, haardly anyone should be playing for APM to "look cool". If you feel you're losing because of your apm, thats not whats happening. Your simple lack of any one or more of the basics will cause you to lose, APM is much less deciding factor than say your macro or micro. If you actually concentrate on playing solidly with al the basics in mind in every game, your apm will be forced to rise.
However, if you are not wanting more apm because of this reason, and simply because to look cool, then I can say IMO thats pretty pathetic.
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Braavos36372 Posts
listen 2 ur heart when apm calling 4 u lisen 2 ur heart theres nothing else u can do i dunno why you spam and i dunno why but listen 2 ur heart before u apm goes sky high
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Braavos36372 Posts
On May 25 2006 13:57 skyglow1 wrote: Arg, haardly anyone should be playing for APM to "look cool". If you feel you're losing because of your apm, thats not whats happening. Your simple lack of any one or more of the basics will cause you to lose, APM is much less deciding factor than say your macro or micro. If you actually concentrate on playing solidly with al the basics in mind in every game, your apm will be forced to rise.
However, if you are not wanting more apm because of this reason, and simply because to look cool, then I can say IMO thats pretty pathetic. it clear u pathetic b/c YOU apm is low, that why you say high apm look bad -_-
if u understand so big huge why u apm so low? funny.
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On May 25 2006 13:39 intrigue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 19:57 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote: Just follow your heart. that's what i do. whenever you aren't doing anything, press down your 0 key and keep it pressed. it'll put your APM at 400 for a few seconds here and there, which will increase your average by a lot. perfectly written. follow your heart.
I usually follow my nose o wait thats for fruit loops not apm..
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On May 25 2006 14:05 Trey5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2006 13:39 intrigue wrote:On May 24 2006 19:57 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote: Just follow your heart. that's what i do. whenever you aren't doing anything, press down your 0 key and keep it pressed. it'll put your APM at 400 for a few seconds here and there, which will increase your average by a lot. perfectly written. follow your heart. I usually follow my nose o wait thats for fruit loops not apm.. -_-?
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On May 25 2006 13:58 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2006 13:57 skyglow1 wrote: Arg, haardly anyone should be playing for APM to "look cool". If you feel you're losing because of your apm, thats not whats happening. Your simple lack of any one or more of the basics will cause you to lose, APM is much less deciding factor than say your macro or micro. If you actually concentrate on playing solidly with al the basics in mind in every game, your apm will be forced to rise.
However, if you are not wanting more apm because of this reason, and simply because to look cool, then I can say IMO thats pretty pathetic. it clear u pathetic b/c YOU apm is low, that why you say high apm look bad -_- if u understand so big huge why u apm so low? funny.
....................... Sheesh I'm just giving my opinion, and for the record no my apm is not low
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Braavos36372 Posts
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lol thanx everyone for the- er... interesting support
I have no idea what my apm is but just find that sometimes I have 12 gatesways and can only keep half of them working, minerals are climbing while im trying to scout, defend and attack
Last night my interenet speed was a little down - giving me confidence that I could be as fast as I need to be- And I beat this korean dude that has a 50% win ration on the asian server >_<
thanx all- this has helped
Oh and what was really nice to watch is on affreca- the free Korean TV- is just some random person letting you watch thier game. And watching how thier mouse moves and all >_<
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Here are 2 examples how I got really big APM. You will find them really usefull and will probably increase not only your APM, but your winning percentage a lot, too. Example 1: I made a 4 pool and hotkeyed my hatch with 4 buttons and constantly pressed them. End result: WIN, 700+ APM. Example 2: I made a 4 pool and kept Ctrl+1 pressed for the whole game. End result: WIN, 1500+ APM.
I'm sure I helped you greatly!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
all of you, kill yourselves immediately
no guff
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On May 25 2006 13:57 Hot_Bid wrote: listen 2 ur heart when apm calling 4 u lisen 2 ur heart theres nothing else u can do i dunno why you spam and i dunno why but listen 2 ur heart before u apm goes sky high
I hate to join the Hot Bid bandwagon, but ahahahahahahahaha :D
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apm > strategy + micro + macro
no lies
I just hit 300 tonight and dominated, and I didn't even use good strategies or good micro, hell even my macro was horrible
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On May 25 2006 14:05 Trey5 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2006 13:39 intrigue wrote:On May 24 2006 19:57 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote: Just follow your heart. that's what i do. whenever you aren't doing anything, press down your 0 key and keep it pressed. it'll put your APM at 400 for a few seconds here and there, which will increase your average by a lot. perfectly written. follow your heart. I usually follow my nose o wait thats for fruit loops not apm..
You make my name look incredibly bad. Just so you know.
On May 25 2006 13:57 Hot_Bid wrote: listen 2 ur heart when apm calling 4 u lisen 2 ur heart theres nothing else u can do i dunno why you spam and i dunno why but listen 2 ur heart before u apm goes sky high
I love you. <3
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Original poster.. just always check gateways, expansions, observers etc and your APM will go up naturally.
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Apm is your engine but your brain is the driver.
Apm is very important and strategy too.
Ppl who like to say apm means nothing are idiots : they talk about some 1 or 2 well known "gosus" who have low apm but they are just the exceptions who confirms the rule.I would even say they like to say this to sattisfy their ego , saying apm is nothing is like saying this game is only based on your strategy, your choices , your brain , that's it : your intelligence. Unconsciously or not they believe : skill at bw = Iq.
At least 90% of C+ minimum PGT players will need 140 apm (MINIMUM),especially T users, to reach their ranks . Oh yeah sure u can do 200 apm and be very weak ,but, --> a high apm is the basic condition to be in the top players anyways.
Every one here can do his own statistics and they will be very near : How many progamers NOWADAYS less than 150 apm? ( i would say absolutely 0%)
Same question for top europeans players ( i would say less than 10%)
I'm lazy and quite low apm (120) and I' m sure about what I talk ,sometimes when I really want to i make such an effort (lol) and I can do maximum 160 (which is still quite slow agree) and then I'm really stronger : I just can' t lie to myself !
Sure if you do 300 apm 5% hotkey and 98 % selecting a scv it's useless but nearly every one nowadays can undertsand that faking apm is stupid and nearly everyone try to make usefuls "apms".
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On May 25 2006 13:57 Hot_Bid wrote: listen 2 ur heart when apm calling 4 u lisen 2 ur heart theres nothing else u can do i dunno why you spam and i dunno why but listen 2 ur heart before u apm goes sky high
hahaha hahaaha :D
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On May 29 2006 04:32 strik.fr wrote: Apm is your engine but your brain is the driver.
Very, very good comparation.
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On May 29 2006 04:32 strik.fr wrote: Apm is your engine but your brain is the driver.
Apm is very important and strategy too.
Apm is the sustent for the strategy. The more units u can command in the minimum time, the more chances u have to be succed on your strategy. Apm is an improvement for Strat. At least, that is how i see it. They are complementary.
On May 29 2006 04:32 strik.fr wrote: Sure if you do 300 apm 5% hotkey and 98 % selecting a scv it's useless but nearly every one nowadays can undertsand that faking apm is stupid and nearly everyone try to make usefuls "apms".
That is a good point. The first time i saw boxer, grrrrrr, yellow, etc.. a few years ago, i was shocked to see them play. They looked just like epileptic ppl, the mouse frenzy was freaking awesome, but there was almost no use on selecting the same unit about 20 times in 3 secs (Particularily if is a worker that is minning). I've read a lot about some gosus hell-like Apm, but when i see live videos from theyr Apm, almost the 40% comes from Mouse spam =/. I belive that the term that must be used is "Multi Tasking" instead of Apm.
Anyway, back to the post.
I used to play games where u have to hit a certain key on the keyboard in a time lapse, so u would get used to the key positions, and hand movement across the keyboard.
Then i got used to acurracy with the mouse, so u can quickly pick any unit on the map. Some UMS on bnet are really good to improve accuracy.
Hope it could be usefull .
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How to improve APM (serious answer)
So over a summer i wanted to get faster and literally the ONLY way to do that is to FORCE yourself to play more quickly. Honestly, i highly recommend spamming hotkeys in mid/late game. For, although it is useless, it will help your brain get in the mindset of always needing to be doing something. Also, try to make boxes as fast as you can (ie WHIP your mouse baby) and also try to do little things very quickly in general. ie worker finishes at expansion and when you go there, try to select him and click on the minerals like ASAP.
The biggest factor which will cause you to play faster is simply remembering everything there is that's going on and trying to do all of it. However, that basically translates to "be a better player," and its impossible to just jump to that point. What will help in the "see new things to do" department is to ALWAYS be looking at the minimap. Whenever you are macroing, try to be glancing at the minimap and you will naturally remember stuff that needs to be done. The only thing you'll need to remind yourself to do is to macro. So
1) spam hotkeys 2) whip your mouse 3) look at minimap 4) remember to macro
as time passes on, you will be doing significantly less spamming of hotkeys and will simply remember everything that needs to be done and you'll naturally do it quickly
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Oh, and i strongly disagree with people who say "APM is something that comes naturally with improvement." APM is something that needs specific work in itself. One MUST sit down and say "i will try to play as fast as i can this game" in order to improve APM.
That's how you have fast newbies and slow gosus as well as slow newbies and fast gosus. Some people just choose to work on speed and others don't.
I'm glad someone is genuinely asking how to improve APM. People tend to think its pointless because high APM comes off as "trying to look flashy." However, its a vital skill to becoming a good player so others should have more respect for those trying to improve this aspect of their game.
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Sorry last thing:
Try to have a very efficient hotkey setup. I read that you were having trouble w/ 12 or so gateways. I recommend hotkeying 1 gateway or the 1 pylon supporting the gateways to 5 or 6 or something. Then hit 55 and simply click build everything (click Z click Z click Z click D click D etc etc to make stuff) I know that's how reach builds things in late game
So, you don't HAVE to do everything off hotkeys, but sometimes things work well. I'm a zerg user and i have 5-0 as hatcheries (sometimes 0 are scourge/defilers or something) and 1-4 as units. I'm EXTREMELY used to spamming 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sh0sh but that took time. Also, since i only have 48 units hotkeyed, i bunch the rest of my units in groups of 12 in a concave in the middle of the map. That way, when i need to attack I can click move those 12 groups easily and then control the 1-4 groups nicely.
For protoss I use: 1-4 as units 0-8 as nexuses (nice to be able to go 0p9p8p) and 5-7 as gateways/other critical buildings and I macro as i said above. Although I don't play protoss frequently, this hotkey setup makes sense to be able to play quickly and still control my units well.
Hope all this has been useful : [
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Just cut your wrists and close your eyes, Your APM will never rise... >_<
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STEP 1 : CLICK EVERYTHING TWICE CONGRATULATIONS YOUVE JUST DOUBLED YOUR APM AND YOUR NOW LIKE 95%OF PLAYERS WITH OVER 200 APM
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i need a post-it note -.-
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Braavos36372 Posts
use sticky not to tape down 1 of ur keys
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Wow -I had no idea there would be so many logical and etremely helpfull posts on this- Thanx to everyone- and I like that syaing
Apm is your engine but your brain is the driver.- Day 9
again thanx everyone >_<
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[QUOTE]On May 29 2006 02:22 TreY wrote: [QUOTE]On May 25 2006 14:05 Trey5 wrote: [QUOTE]On May 25 2006 13:39 intrigue wrote: [QUOTE]On May 24 2006 19:57 IIICodeIIIIIII wrote: Just follow your heart. that's what i do. whenever you aren't doing anything, press down your 0 key and keep it pressed. it'll put your APM at 400 for a few seconds here and there, which will increase your average by a lot. [/QUOTE]
perfectly written. follow your heart.[/QUOTE]
I usually follow my nose o wait thats for fruit loops not apm..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]You make my name look incredibly bad. Just so you know.[/QUOTE]
Sorry didn't mean to disgrace you on an internet message board it was just a (bad) joke...
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use ur keyboard
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omfg this thread is still here, I suggest there should be a rule stating that if you make an apm thread you get banned
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Braavos36372 Posts
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Hot_Bid, supressing the hypocrisy down with microscopic precision.
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On May 29 2006 09:49 Day[9] wrote: Oh, and i strongly disagree with people who say "APM is something that comes naturally with improvement." APM is something that needs specific work in itself. One MUST sit down and say "i will try to play as fast as i can this game" in order to improve APM.
That's how you have fast newbies and slow gosus as well as slow newbies and fast gosus. Some people just choose to work on speed and others don't.
I'm glad someone is genuinely asking how to improve APM. People tend to think its pointless because high APM comes off as "trying to look flashy." However, its a vital skill to becoming a good player so others should have more respect for those trying to improve this aspect of their game.
You captilizae your "must" as if it is defininte and that it is the same for everyone. This is clearly not true. There are many people like me who were surprised to find their apm went up without them even knowing. This was caused by the increasingly improving play which demanded for higher apm. There are alot of cases where your apm will just naturally go up. Don't just dismiss it by saying that everyone "MUST" increase apm by focusing on it only.
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the ums map 1a2a3a micro is usefull for training yourself to press 1a, 2a, and 3a very fast, as well as working on your mouse control/accuracy.
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wow for once a serious apm thread haha
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On May 30 2006 23:11 skyglow1 wrote: You captilizae your "must" as if it is defininte and that it is the same for everyone. This is clearly not true. There are many people like me who were surprised to find their apm went up without them even knowing. This was caused by the increasingly improving play which demanded for higher apm. There are alot of cases where your apm will just naturally go up. Don't just dismiss it by saying that everyone "MUST" increase apm by focusing on it only.
I still beleive my statement is correct, but let me clarify a bit.
I'm talking about cases where someone w/ 180-200~ APM is trying to increase up to 300~ APM. I literally don't know of any good 300 APM player who slowly got there. Virtually any quick player I know peaked it up in a small period of time and then figure out how to make it useful.
I agree that it will naturally increase, but I feel as though the highest APM one can reach naturally is 180-200. Past that requires lots of practice. So, i'm not trying to say that its impossible to build APM naturally, that's definitely true. However, its only true up to a certain point. To get past the 200 range, i feel one MUST focus on APM and practice quick hand speed.
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APM is just A(too many action) per minute
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Just play, trust me. I went from 90-120 APM then to 180-240 APM now
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Yeah my APM is pretty much locked at 220+ now (I do have games where I'm hitting 250 - 280, but I've only hit 300+ once in a real game). Its all about the hotkeys baby.
Scrolling around the map is going to make your actions drop, if you can use the hotkeys to just to what you want to use at the current time, just click it twice and jump to it! And if you need to go to a spot, quickly go to the minimap and click on wherever. Another thing is that you should max out your mouse speed and get used to it. Once you do you'll be able to select/move/attack things faster. It will hurt your accuracy for a bit but once that catches up you'll be fine.
Also, learn how to click faster. Instead of just clicking fast to increase your APM, however, do it to more precisely have your units go to a spot. Make your actions useful while your increasing them. And never lose track of whats happening in the game. Work your strategy but never forget to adapt to what your opponent is doing.
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Hey what do you guys think about this excercize- To prace playing the computer ONLY using your mouse- and once you feel you do allmost as well as you do in normal games your mouse apm should be awesome >_<
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On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians ROFL
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Practicing against a computer while trying to keep minerals below 300 at all times and APM above 300 at all times is supposed to help. These goals are very difficult to reach though. I have found that simply focusing on APM in games has slowly increased my APM from 50 to around 140 on average.
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On April 16 2008 16:16 Schrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians ROFL i suggest you read the strategy forum guidelines, old threads should not be bumped unless you have something new to contribute, or you have a similar question http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60175
welcome to tl.net
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
nice 2 new posters lol yeah just read Aux1's link welcome~
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put your hands in the microwave for 10 minutes to warm them and drink 5+ cups of coffee before every game.
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United States42112 Posts
On April 16 2008 23:51 parkin wrote: put your hands in the microwave for 10 minutes to warm them and drink 5+ cups of coffee before every game. Too much caffeine doesn't help. You end up going "What if he does a muta switch? Can I defend vs that? Oh God he's going to go muta.. Shit... Cannon, cannon, cannon. Wait, it's PvP. He can't go muta..... Muta?!? Shit! I'm vulnerable vs muta". I exaggerate slightly but it does mess with your decision making.
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Russian Federation4235 Posts
Use turpentine. Increased value of Actions per Minute guaranteed.
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On April 17 2008 00:03 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2008 23:51 parkin wrote: put your hands in the microwave for 10 minutes to warm them and drink 5+ cups of coffee before every game. Too much caffeine doesn't help. You end up going "What if he does a muta switch? Can I defend vs that? Oh God he's going to go muta.. Shit... Cannon, cannon, cannon. Wait, it's PvP. He can't go muta..... Muta?!? Shit! I'm vulnerable vs muta". I exaggerate slightly but it does mess with your decision making. apm is not the same as decision making : ), the best way to increase the apm and keep the decision making is to mix some valium in the coffee.
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On April 16 2008 16:16 Schrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians ROFL
Who registers for Teamliquid to say ROFL to a two year old thread? T_T
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spam games on ICC. seriously, it works best
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On April 17 2008 00:42 GeneralStan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2008 16:16 Schrecken wrote:On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians ROFL Who registers for Teamliquid to say ROFL to a two year old thread? T_T It was just THAT funny.
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On April 16 2008 16:16 Schrecken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2006 13:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On May 24 2006 13:41 SuperJongMan wrote: Whoa! APM Creme! Now do you apply it or eat it with your favorite crackers? cracker no have good apm, only asians ROFL LMFAO XD
Nice way to start posting
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On April 17 2008 00:14 parkin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2008 00:03 Kwark wrote:On April 16 2008 23:51 parkin wrote: put your hands in the microwave for 10 minutes to warm them and drink 5+ cups of coffee before every game. Too much caffeine doesn't help. You end up going "What if he does a muta switch? Can I defend vs that? Oh God he's going to go muta.. Shit... Cannon, cannon, cannon. Wait, it's PvP. He can't go muta..... Muta?!? Shit! I'm vulnerable vs muta". I exaggerate slightly but it does mess with your decision making. apm is not the same as decision making : ), the best way to increase the apm and keep the decision making is to mix some valium in the coffee.
u'r right, but he sad that coffeine will mess up ur mind alilbit, not what u thought
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stop worrying about it so much. I have average 200 apm 120 E amp and i am still a C- i get beat by alot of people with lesser apm!!!!
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200 apm is pretty good
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On May 24 2006 11:38 SP)diQ wrote: [R] where can i download apm ???
lmao... wait.. i wanna dl some to :O
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hahahahah I haven't seen a retarded bump in a while
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