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On November 01 2017 07:09 Mohdoo wrote:Did we already get confirmation the dude is "some kinda ethnic lookin' folk" or something?
Looks like it. Even a Norwegian newspaper (I've never seen them sensationalize stuff like this wrongly) is reporting the guy was screaming allahu akbar.
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On November 01 2017 07:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:09 Mohdoo wrote:Did we already get confirmation the dude is "some kinda ethnic lookin' folk" or something? Looks like it. Even a Norwegian newspaper (I've never seen them sensationalize stuff like this wrongly) is reporting the guy was screaming allahu akbar.
yup, some Uzbek national who lived in FL ( came to the US in 2010, not sure if he was in FL the whole time)
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I'm sure Trump will address this is the calm, color blind way that he has always done before.
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On November 01 2017 07:28 Plansix wrote:
I'm sure Trump will address this is the calm, color blind way that he has always done before.
And miss the chance to distract from muller? I mean, I can't see why he would not address this calm and collected
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On November 01 2017 07:18 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:09 Mohdoo wrote:Did we already get confirmation the dude is "some kinda ethnic lookin' folk" or something? Looks like it. Even a Norwegian newspaper (I've never seen them sensationalize stuff like this wrongly) is reporting the guy was screaming allahu akbar.
Gotcha. I've only been keeping up with stuff on my phone today, so I haven't done much digging. It is also worth throwing some shade on the Reddit community. It is hilarious how none of the "major" subs with posts about the attack have even the slightest hint at his identity or anything about him. "SHHHHHHHH"
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On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it?
The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't.
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On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't.
Do you remember just how much she tried to get the activist wing behind her? She wouldn’t repeat Obama’s mistakes because she was a woman, identity politics all over the place. I grounded this in the professor’s masculinity stance and added the Coates piece as background. Have you read either and if so, what’s your opinion?
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On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't.
There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others.
This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive.
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On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive.
What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them?
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On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive.
There's also people on this board that believe in ethnostates. You're massively overblowing the "large percentage" part.
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On November 01 2017 08:46 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive. What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them?
I can repeat myself.
The main elements being that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others.
Your average straight white male simple aren't getting up in the morning and say "Heh heh, I wonder how many people I can go out and oppress today!"
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On November 01 2017 08:55 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:46 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive. What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them? I can repeat myself. The main elements being that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. Your average straight white male simple aren't getting up in the morning and say "Heh heh, I wonder how many people I can go out and oppress today!"
You don't need to believe in gravity to stick to the ground, are you trying to tell us that someone needs to be conscious of their behaviour for it to have real consequences?
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NPR is investigating allegations by two women who said the head of its news department made unwanted physical contact with them while he was employed by another news organization nearly two decades ago.
The women, both journalists at the time of the alleged incidents, made the accusations in recent weeks against Michael Oreskes, senior vice president of news and editorial director at the Washington-based public broadcasting organization.
In response to the allegations, NPR said Tuesday that it has placed Oreskes on indefinite leave.
In separate complaints, the women said Oreskes — at the time, the Washington bureau chief of the New York Times — abruptly kissed them while they were speaking with him about working at the newspaper. Both of them told similar stories: After meeting Oreskes and discussing their job prospects, they said he unexpectedly kissed them on the lips and stuck his tongue in their mouths.
Both of the women spoke to The Washington Post on the condition of anonymity so as not to damage their employment prospects.
www.washingtonpost.com
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On November 01 2017 08:57 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:55 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 08:46 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive. What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them? I can repeat myself. The main elements being that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. Your average straight white male simple aren't getting up in the morning and say "Heh heh, I wonder how many people I can go out and oppress today!" You don't need to believe in gravity to stick to the ground, are you trying to tell us that someone needs to be conscious of their behaviour for it to have real consequences?
And then you have people who believes that white straight males are just genetically born to oppress people.
Like come on bro, most white straight males are just trying to get through a hard day at work to earn that paycheck.
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On November 01 2017 08:55 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:46 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive. What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them? I can repeat myself. The main elements being that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. Your average straight white male simple aren't getting up in the morning and say "Heh heh, I wonder how many people I can go out and oppress today!"
You don't have to be consciously racist to be racist. In fact, most people do it without even thinking about it. Being racist isn't just wearing a white hood.
On November 01 2017 08:59 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:57 Nyxisto wrote:On November 01 2017 08:55 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 08:46 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive. What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them? I can repeat myself. The main elements being that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. Your average straight white male simple aren't getting up in the morning and say "Heh heh, I wonder how many people I can go out and oppress today!" You don't need to believe in gravity to stick to the ground, are you trying to tell us that someone needs to be conscious of their behaviour for it to have real consequences? And then you have people who believes that white straight males are just genetically born to oppress people. Like come on bro, most white straight males are just trying to get through a hard day at work to earn that paycheck.
Except you're the only one here saying this. Who's going around saying all white people are predisposed to oppressing others?
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On November 01 2017 08:55 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 08:46 GreenHorizons wrote:On November 01 2017 08:41 RealityIsKing wrote:On November 01 2017 07:47 Gahlo wrote:On November 01 2017 04:46 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 04:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:On November 01 2017 04:17 Danglars wrote:On November 01 2017 03:29 Velr wrote:
Does this stuff in any way impact your day to day life? I ask because these hardcore feminists annoy me too, but they are just not present in my life.
So.. Do you follow media outrage or are you actually having experience on the subject? Discussing politics and society and social trends is just a hobby. Later on this can impact my children and my friends children and my community. Then there’s the routine surprise when I see only people on the right object to the Coates article and the left is in agreement or strangely silent. That part’s just my attempt to understand why people who think differently than me conclude as they do. Are you on board with the quoted arguments from the article? To what extent, if any, do you think toxic masculinity leads to this broad attack on masculinity itself by those that regularly criticize toxic masculinity? Why "strangely silent"? There's a lot of stuff on the internet to consume, and most people who are on it will tacitly accept that most of it is dumb. Attempting to comment on everything that is dumb is pointless. People comment on things that they care about. Such as, you care about some American culture war, so you will comment on things related to it. I care about finding what’s the forum fringe and what’s mainstream. I’m constantly disappointed by the shift towards the fringe. Did you read the Coates piece and what did you think of it? The fact that you're concerned with a political parties movements to the fringe is hilarious. Especially considering that Hillary existed as a candidate because the party didn't. There are a large percentage of people, including people on this forum that believes in conspiracy theories that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. This is downright racist, discriminatory, ridiculously and quite frankly, very divisive. What are the main elements of the "conspiracy theories" as you see them? I can repeat myself. The main elements being that all heterosexual white males are "oppressing" others. Your average straight white male simple aren't getting up in the morning and say "Heh heh, I wonder how many people I can go out and oppress today!"
How are all white men oppressing others according to your interpretation of this conspiracy theory?
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The Coates peice sure was effective. We can't go three days without people bringing it up like it's some call to war against white people or something.
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On November 01 2017 09:07 Plansix wrote:
The Coates peice sure was effective. We can't go three days without people bringing it up like it's some call to war against white people or something.
Did you not get your email about the uprising on the 4th?
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