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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
September 01 2017 14:02 GMT
#172421
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 14:17:11
September 01 2017 14:05 GMT
#172422
On September 01 2017 23:02 PoulsenB wrote:
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?

That Columbus was a genius comparable to the likes of Newton who made an intuitive deduction that the world was round, and not flat, when everyone believed otherwise and set out to invent the United States based upon that deduction.

When Newton says "I bet if you dropped a brick and a feather in a vacuum they'd fall at the same rate" that's an amazing deductive leap in defiance of popular wisdom. When Columbus says "I bet India is a thousand miles west of Spain", that's not.

#teameratosthenes
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2017 14:07 GMT
#172423
On September 01 2017 23:02 PoulsenB wrote:
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?

It is a book read to children in primary schools in the US. I remember is very clearly, which him watching a moth crawl across a orange and suddenly realizing the earth was round. Then he landed in the US and meet with native Americans and they were buddies.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 01 2017 14:09 GMT
#172424

Donald Trump's lawyers understand that obstruction of justice charges against the President are “real and serious", a former US Attorney has said.

In addition to four congressional investigations, the US President and his 2016 campaign are under investigation by special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller, over claims they colluded with Russia.

Mr Trump’s lawyers have met several times with Mr Mueller over recent months and have submitted detailed memos refuting the allegations.

And Former US Attorney Preet Bharara said the fact the President's legal representatives had given written responses to the claims showed they recognised their significance.

"There may never be any charges, but defense lawyers don't usu waste time on preemptive memos re: frivolous theories of criminal guilt," he wrote on Twitter.


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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 14:13:17
September 01 2017 14:12 GMT
#172425
What the actual fuck? What kind of bullshit mythology making is that? I mean it doesn't even make sense. It'll be like watching a lizard slither across the ceiling and thinking the world is flat.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 01 2017 14:15 GMT
#172426
I swear I've never seen schoolchildren in the US taught anything other than "people in Columbus' time knew the Earth was round, but they thought it was significantly smaller than it actually was, and Columbus wanted to take the long way around to the Indies." Maybe I just haven't seen enough terrible classrooms.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 14:17:19
September 01 2017 14:15 GMT
#172427
On September 01 2017 23:05 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 23:02 PoulsenB wrote:
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?

That Columbus was a genius comparable to the likes of Newton who made an intuitive deduction that the world was round, and not flat, when everyone believed otherwise and set out to invent the United States based upon that deduction.

When Newton says "I bet if you dropped a brick and a feather in a vacuum they'd fall at the same rate" that's an amazing deductive leap in defiance of popular wisdom. When Columbus says "I bet India is a thousand miles west of Spain", that's not.

#teameratosthenes


On September 01 2017 23:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 23:02 PoulsenB wrote:
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?

It is a book read to children in primary schools in the US. I remember is very clearly, which him watching a moth crawl across a orange and suddenly realizing the earth was round. Then he landed in the US and meet with native Americans and they were buddies.


This is really stupid. I can understand it being in a children's story but teaching stuff like that in schools is inexcusable.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 01 2017 14:22 GMT
#172428
Well I distinctively remember reading some book in school telling me that planes fly in the air because the top of a wing is longer than the bottom of a wing.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
September 01 2017 14:23 GMT
#172429
Now i want a book where the first half is stuff like that, and then it turns into really detailed depictions of columbus cutting of a mans ears and nose and selling him into slavery and similar stuff like that.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 14:25:22
September 01 2017 14:24 GMT
#172430
On September 01 2017 23:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Well I distinctively remember reading some book in school telling me that planes fly in the air because the top of a wing is longer than the bottom of a wing.

Is that not true? I thought the shape creates an area of lower density above the wing than below when you force air above and below quickly. Something Bernoulli Effect?

Did year 7 physics lie to me? I never bothered to google how planes fly, I trusted school.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2017 14:25 GMT
#172431
On September 01 2017 23:15 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 23:05 KwarK wrote:
On September 01 2017 23:02 PoulsenB wrote:
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?

That Columbus was a genius comparable to the likes of Newton who made an intuitive deduction that the world was round, and not flat, when everyone believed otherwise and set out to invent the United States based upon that deduction.

When Newton says "I bet if you dropped a brick and a feather in a vacuum they'd fall at the same rate" that's an amazing deductive leap in defiance of popular wisdom. When Columbus says "I bet India is a thousand miles west of Spain", that's not.

#teameratosthenes


Show nested quote +
On September 01 2017 23:07 Plansix wrote:
On September 01 2017 23:02 PoulsenB wrote:
What's the myth about? That Columbus landed in USA and not the Caribbean? And it was taught in fucking schools?

It is a book read to children in primary schools in the US. I remember is very clearly, which him watching a moth crawl across a orange and suddenly realizing the earth was round. Then he landed in the US and meet with native Americans and they were buddies.


This is really stupid. I can understand it being in a children's story but teaching stuff like that in schools is inexcusable.

It was the 1980s, so it was a while ago and not much has changed. I did some work for my first grade teacher right after college and that book was still in the classroom.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 14:30:29
September 01 2017 14:26 GMT
#172432
Yes, it's all lies. With that kind of explanation, planes will fall out of the air if they go upside down. It just pure bullshit explanation. Or rather it's a mishmash of explanations that doesn't make any sense and then Bernoulli is checked in to make it sound scientific.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-01 14:29:21
September 01 2017 14:28 GMT
#172433
delete covfefe
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
September 01 2017 14:30 GMT
#172434
On September 01 2017 23:26 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yes, it's all lies. With that kind of explanation, planes will fall out of the air if they go upside down. Or rather it's a mishmash of explanations that doesn't make any sense.


Well in a nutshell, they do.

I feel like i missed the sarcasm here.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 01 2017 14:31 GMT
#172435
No, they don't. I've flown a plane upside down loads of times. Every single airshow, they fly a plane upside down, because it's safe and easy to do and visually striking.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
September 01 2017 14:34 GMT
#172436
On September 01 2017 23:31 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
No, they don't. I've flown a plane upside down loads of times. Every single airshow, they fly a plane upside down, because it's safe and easy to do and visually striking.


Again, can't tell if serious or not, so i'll let that stand and won't engage further.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
September 01 2017 14:34 GMT
#172437
Tell us all how a plane flies in the simplest possible terms. And then tell us why the shower curtain is pulled inwards when running a hot shower.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
September 01 2017 14:36 GMT
#172438
Who now?
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
September 01 2017 14:36 GMT
#172439
On September 01 2017 23:36 m4ini wrote:
Who now?

Danger.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
September 01 2017 14:37 GMT
#172440
So you're saying this is not some kind of "clever" joke, but he actually believes that horseshit? oO
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