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TheTenthDoc
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On August 19 2017 02:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/898594013409882112 The cynic in me says this is surely a front and they'll still basically just be Trump lovers, just perhaps not so openly (making their messaging that much more effective) | ||
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LegalLord
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I look forward to seeing what happens when Trump runs out of fall guys and then he himself has to answer for the shittiness of his rather crooked administration. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
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On August 19 2017 02:39 Falling wrote: @Wolf Yes, the speaker is Adrienne Smith and that is the exact quote. I don't see how it's in another context or do you mean that if you don't seek out and establish a person's pronouns and subsequently 'mispronoun' that constitutes something akin to sexism in the workplace? Or is it that if you refuse to use squeak, elkself, squeakself, tik, dai, necro, frankenself, merself, vamp, witchself, whomp (that's a great one), botself, mechie, and so on (man, tumblr is educational), then this would constitute harassment and workplace discrimination? It means that the bar for discrimination in the work place, or other environments, is already quite high. And while you can get in trouble in general for being an ass-hole at work, it takes several degrees higher before human rights complaints can start to factor in. Like any other current charges of discrimination (or discriminatory environments), there has to be intent, sustained action, etc. | ||
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On August 19 2017 03:02 LegalLord wrote: This is unfortunate news. Bannon really spiced up the administration. I look forward to seeing what happens when Trump runs out of fall guys and then he himself has to answer for the shittiness of his rather crooked administration. It's funny how different people get axed as if to correct a specific issue (in Bannon's case, Trump's reaction to the Nazi rallies), when in fact the problem is and always will be Trump himself. And that won't change so long as he's in office. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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On August 19 2017 02:04 Plansix wrote: They might be bummed out when they get there. Durham is almost 40% black and not a college town. Ripping down statues may pull 200 protesters from the left, but I think opposing Nazis is going to pull a lot more. Duke and NC Central have to make up most of the population of the city. Gonna question you on it not being a college town. Plus even if you don't consider Durham itself a college town it is 15 minutes from UNC and 30 minutes from NC State so you could easily see those people coming in. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On August 19 2017 02:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/898594013409882112 Breitbart vs. Trump would be hilarious. I'm so glad Steve Bannon is gone. | ||
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Plansix
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On August 19 2017 03:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Duke and NC Central have to make up most of the population of the city. Gonna question you on it not being a college town. Plus even if you don't consider Durham itself a college town it is 15 minutes from UNC and 30 minutes from NC State so you could easily see those people coming in. Straight up, I thought it was more of a working class city. I also didn’t know Duke was there, but I don’t watch basket ball and that seems to be the only reason to be aware of Duke’s existence.  | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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On August 19 2017 03:02 LegalLord wrote: This is unfortunate news. Bannon really spiced up the administration. I look forward to seeing what happens when Trump runs out of fall guys and then he himself has to answer for the shittiness of his rather crooked administration. The beauty of being an executive who hires basically whoever you want whenever you want is that you never run out of fall guys. Most of these people are in the weird pseudo-positions that aren't really part of the government anyway, so it's child's play to rise and repeat. On August 19 2017 03:16 Plansix wrote: Straight up, I thought it was more of a working class city. I also didn’t know Duke was there, but I don’t watch basket ball and that seems to be the only reason to be aware of Duke’s existence. Durham is facing pretty absurd levels of gentrification since Chapel Hill and Carrboro filled up and basically 3 growing universities all have students and grad students there. Just look at the number of craft breweries you can see on Yelp | ||
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Falling
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On August 19 2017 03:03 WolfintheSheep wrote: It means that the bar for discrimination in the work place, or other environments, is already quite high. And while you can get in trouble in general for being an ass-hole at work, it takes several degrees higher before human rights complaints can start to factor in. Like any other current charges of discrimination (or discriminatory environments), there has to be intent, sustained action, etc. Would not using those above pronouns constitute 'being an ass-hole at work'? Because it seems being an ass-hole is a much lower bar to cross and likely all that would be sufficient to give just cause for firing (see people's defence of Damore's firing.) And then suppose you sustained your refusal to not use those pronouns are moving to discrimination then or does it matter the intent- that one doesn't think any less of the person as a person, but one just doesn't think pronouns are individualized in the same way as proper nouns. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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On August 19 2017 03:16 Plansix wrote: Straight up, I thought it was more of a working class city. I also didn’t know Duke was there, but I don’t watch basket ball and that seems to be the only reason to be aware of Duke’s existence. While Durham is right next to Research Triangle Park, most of the workers live in Raleigh and the surround suburbs. ^^TheTenthDoc comment spot on as well | ||
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Uldridge
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But that's obviously because he's in denial of himself. He's just utterly incapable of taking responsibility; it's so sad that you have a stubborn, narcissistic manchild of a president who barely passes level 8 in reading/writing/speaking skills. | ||
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Plansix
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On August 19 2017 03:19 Falling wrote: Would not using those above pronouns constitute 'being an ass-hole at work'? Because it seems being an ass-hole is a much lower bar to cross and likely all that would be sufficient to give just cause for firing (see people's defence of Damore's firing.) Why wouldn’t it? That is a form of harassment. The same with refusing to use someone’s married name because they are in an interracial marriage. Or using a nick name that someone has said they do not want to be called that. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On August 19 2017 03:21 Uldridge wrote: If there's one thing Trump knows how to do well, it's firing people. But that's obviously because he's in denial of himself. He's just utterly incapable of taking responsibility; it's so sad that you have a stubborn, narcissistic manchild of a president who barely passes level 8 in reading/writing/speaking skills. Of all the firings he has yet to do one himself. He sends someone else to do it. | ||
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LegalLord
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On August 19 2017 03:17 TheTenthDoc wrote: The beauty of being an executive who hires basically whoever you want whenever you want is that you never run out of fall guys. Most of these people are in the weird pseudo-positions that aren't really part of the government anyway, so it's child's play to rise and repeat. He's running out of willing hires at an impressive rate. Working for the Trump admin is a career hazard. Sooner or later he's just going to be left with a contingent of zero allies and his head will be next for the chopping block. At this rate it's inevitable since we are but seven months in. | ||
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