US Politics Mega-thread - Page 8244

On July 29 2017 05:56 Falling wrote:

Maybe it's not the worst it's ever been, but isn't it pretty bad, particularly in south-east Asia with the sex trade and sex tourism?

On July 29 2017 06:22 WolfintheSheep wrote:

While it's bad, it's not...worse? I mean, that is generally one of the regions that has always had the problem for most of recent history.

On July 29 2017 06:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


Really? Yet he's okay with Trump's language?

On July 29 2017 06:21 KwarK wrote:

You're advocating for people taking substances for health purposes that are entirely unregulated based upon "rational people would have known there were risks" to consuming supplements.

At the very least that's bypassing the FDA.

On July 29 2017 06:56 IgnE wrote:

i shouldnt have to repeat this but i am asking for STRICTER controls. I want the bottle to contain what it says it contains. right now its the wild fucking west.

insofar as you think adults shouldnt be allowed to take plant extracts if they want to, i think thats nuts. bodily autonomy

Donald Trump has appeared to advocate rougher treatment of people in police custody.

The president was promoting his hardline immigration agenda to an audience of police officers and the relatives of victims of crime in Brentwood, Long Island.

“If you’re a gang member and you’re here illegally, you’re going home,” the senior White House adviser Stephen Miller told reporters traveling to New York on Air Force One with Trump.

In his speech, however, the president spoke dismissively of arresting officers who protect suspects’ heads while putting them in police cars.

“And when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon,” he said, “you just see ’em thrown in, rough.

“I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice.’ Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting the head. You know? The way you put the hand over [the head], like ‘Don’t hit their head’ and they’ve just killed somebody, ‘Don’t hit their head.’

“I said, ‘You can take the hand away,’ OK?”

The president’s remarks drew cheers, laughter and applause.

Trump also claimed that laws were written to “protect the criminal” and “not the officers” and told his audience the “laws are stacked against you” and needed to be changed.

Trump pledged to “destroy” the international MS-13 street gang and other similar organizations, saying he was focused on MS-13 because it is “particularly violent”.

MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha, originated among El Salvadorean migrants in Los Angeles in the 1980s. The justice department has said it now has more than 10,000 members across the US.

Trump’s speech came as the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, traveled to El Salvador to highlight progress on the gang crackdown under which, civil rights groups counter, police and immigration agents have unfairly targeted some teenagers.

“We received complaints in recent weeks from terrified parents on Long Island that teens have already been detained on the thinnest of rationales, such as wearing a basketball jersey,” said Sebastian Krueger from the New York Civil Liberties Union.

There have been at least two lawsuits filed by people claiming they were mistakenly included in gang databases and then targeted for deportation, said Paromita Shah, from the National Immigration Project at the National Lawyers Guild.

The MS-13 gang has committed a string of gruesome murders in Suffolk County, New York, including the April killing of four young men. There have been 17 murders on Long Island tied to the gang since January 2016, the Suffolk County police department has said.

Trump told his audience MS-13 members did not like to shoot their victims because death came too fast, preferring instead to knife and cut their victims, so they died slowly and more painfully.

“These are animals,” he said.