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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121341
what the fuck my people? honestly, what the fuck?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121342
Trump ahead in Pennsylvania, it all comes tumbling down for Clinton
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121343
Amy Schumer please move to mexico instead of canada
© Current year.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121344
On November 09 2016 14:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reminder to mods:

I was in a 1 year ban-bet with NukeD.

Please initiate the ban when the results are known, thank you.

tl doesnt enforce ban bets. thats up to nuked to request it.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7310 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121345
On November 09 2016 13:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:55 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:53 Hexe wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:53 eviltomahawk wrote:
I guess this is how the conservatives felt back in '08

oh god no. most knew obama had the momentum.

None of us liked McCain and none of us thought he was going to win. It was pretty clear that we were going to get crushed in that election by the time that we were though October. No, this election is a uniquely bitter experience for democrats.


Particularly bitter because we disagreed with McCain (and Romney) but at least they were good people. Trump's entire campaign wasn't just about policies we disagreed with... it was about him being a morally reprehensible human being who ostracized every group of people imaginable... and yet was still voted in by the people who'll vote Republican no matter what. It's bitter for us because it's a national embarrassment, and the entire world (minus Russia and North Korea) was looking forward to us actually electing someone who could actually run the country.


I'd like to second this. I've never liked identifying with a political party because of the way partisanship manifests in this country. I've always made an effort to understand why people would vote for candidates that I found less ideal, I always respected their unique viewpoint with regards to what they prioritized be it the economy, or social issues, or immigration, I can understand and appreciate a vote for Romney, McCain, Bush, etc. I've never liked how quickly people are to throw labels out onto anybody, that sort of dogmatism freaks me out. I hate it from liberals and I hate it from conservatives. I hated my time in school because we had some true Social Justice Warriors (the type that thought that white people making art of chinese characters was offensive and that sort of nuttiness), and I hate when conservatives and liberals sling mud and shit and insults at one another without making the slightest effort to promote a better understanding between each other. I hate the push of religious values from conservatives. But I can appreciate some core values these people hold, that racism isn't as simple as burning crosses and lynching. That religion is an important part of the cultural fabric of America. That people don't respond well to being assigned a label and then dismissed based on that label.

Donald Trump just feels like the embodiment of the worst sorts of issues that I've seen within my shallow sphere of political insight. The man rejects opposition in an unhealthy way, he promotes the idea of "winning" rather than cooperation, the degeneration of the ability of people to place a healthy trust in those around them and the people that they elect into office.

I'm not sure if Donald Trump will be good or bad for the country, I lean heavily towards bad, but what really freaks me out about Donald Trump isn't even really the man himself, but the kind of electorate that willfully elects him despite everything we've seen from him this election.

Freaks me out.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121346
Remeber Bernie Bros, trump gets at least one supreme court justice out of this, so instead of getting 90% of what you want those votes for Stein and Johnson get you none of it
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4773 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121347
On November 09 2016 14:04 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 14:02 Introvert wrote:
Looking at the CA vote coming in, my prediction may be right.

Also, the death penalty surives in CA. Good. How many times will they try to get rid of it?

Voter approval for revunue bonds failing. Not great.

61 failed, good.

But lots of bad stuff, new taxes, etc.

Almost all of my Proposition votes didn't carry the day!

Fitting, for the first time I don't vote in the Clinton senatorial race, lacking a Republican on the Senate Ballot.


Same. I am impressed how CA voters keep the death penalty alive, however. There has been more than one attempt on it.

I didn't vote for Senate either. I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of them, although having that buffoon Sanchez might have been some fun.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4334 Posts
November 09 2016 05:08 GMT
#121348
Hillary Clinton election watch "party"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 05:09 GMT
#121349
On November 09 2016 14:08 IgnE wrote:
what the fuck my people? honestly, what the fuck?

Clearly, they're my people. =)
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13955 Posts
November 09 2016 05:09 GMT
#121350
The state constitutional amendment passed in minnesota pretty heavily. A civilian council will decide the salery of state reps and state senators. will be interesting to see if this might become a thing for the rest of the nation.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 05:09 GMT
#121351
On November 09 2016 14:08 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Hillary Clinton election watch "party"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSS0tsCTCJg

Good thing she cancelled the fireworks.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
November 09 2016 05:09 GMT
#121352
On November 09 2016 14:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reminder to mods:

I was in a 1 year ban-bet with NukeD.

Please initiate the ban when the results are known, thank you.

I'm going to miss your posts, I really enjoyed them.

Deep into a glass of scotch, wake me up when it's over
you gotta dance
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
November 09 2016 05:10 GMT
#121353
Not for nothing if Trump wins with a Republican senate and Congress majority still in tact I am very excited for my and my spouses tax bills. Plus my industry does very well when the rich get richer. My spouse has a union job, but in ny I'm not too concerned about losing too much collective bargaining power.

Full disclosure I would never vote for him as I consider him a boob who is unwilling or unable to memorize some key facts about the countries we deal with on a regular basis.
I am, therefore I pee
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 05:10 GMT
#121354
Karl Rove is apoplectic. He knows he's fucked.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
November 09 2016 05:11 GMT
#121355
Farvacola is going to lose his bet to me. I will get to make his signature whatever I want for 6 months 😂
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 05:12:40
November 09 2016 05:11 GMT
#121356
It's over, someone at the Clinton camp has to be drafting a speech Mrs. Robot can deliver.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6286 Posts
November 09 2016 05:11 GMT
#121357
Michegan now up 2% for Trump
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 09 2016 05:12 GMT
#121358
Time for the rich to get richer on the backs of poor votes through grand empty promises.
Never Knows Best.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4773 Posts
November 09 2016 05:12 GMT
#121359
Toomey takes the lead.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 05:12 GMT
#121360
Washtenaw County in Michigan is gonna be Hillary's last chance there
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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