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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 00:52 GMT
#120061
On November 09 2016 09:51 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 09:49 KOFgokuon wrote:
Dunno where you're all seeing your numbers like 55% of Florida has reported according to cnn

The polls aren't even closed here yet. CNNs fucking up making it sound like mail in / early votes are the total %

Good lord I can't keep up with this insanity
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
November 09 2016 00:52 GMT
#120062
Sooo who was that guy who allegedly tried to shoot Trump yesterday? Was he want-to-be-famous-crazy or need-to-save-my-country-crazy? Or was it a false alarm?
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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
November 09 2016 00:52 GMT
#120063
On November 09 2016 09:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 09:46 DickMcFanny wrote:
On November 09 2016 09:42 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On November 09 2016 09:41 DickMcFanny wrote:
What the shit, I just learned that Californians and New Yorksters get less valuable votes? The fuck?


I mean, the electoral college numbers were made from Representatives + Senators. Reps are population proportional, Senators are guaranteed 2/state.

This guarantees votes in more populous states will be worth proportionally less.


What shit is that? Why don't they just count the popular votes, add them up state by state and make whoever has more people voting for them the POTUS? That's insane.

OMG, because that isn't how we elected the commander and chief. The President isn't supposed to be elected by popular vote because it would give to much power to the urban centers while removing power from the less populated states. We are a collection of tiny governments overseen by one larger, but limited government.


Ah yes, I remember that argument. 'The crisis of democracy', when the wrong people get to vote.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 00:53:11
November 09 2016 00:52 GMT
#120064
benchmark politics has some county breakdowns in FL. hrc outperforming ev so far in her strong counties
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 00:53:04
November 09 2016 00:52 GMT
#120065
On November 09 2016 09:52 Sent. wrote:
Sooo who was that guy who allegedly tried to shoot Trump yesterday? Was he want-to-be-famous-crazy or need-to-save-my-country-crazy? Or was it a false alarm?

Are you talking about the guy who was just lifting a sign? Then almost got strangled to death by Trump fans?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
November 09 2016 00:53 GMT
#120066
On November 09 2016 09:52 Sent. wrote:
Sooo who was that guy who allegedly tried to shoot Trump yesterday? Was he want-to-be-famous-crazy or need-to-save-my-country-crazy? Or was it a false alarm?


False alarm. Was holding a Republicans Against Trump sign. Someone called that a gun.
Yargh
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12172 Posts
November 09 2016 00:53 GMT
#120067
I think it looks good so far, from what I can gather. I think so.

You really shouldn't be able to play with our world like that though :/
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 00:53 GMT
#120068
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 09 2016 00:53 GMT
#120069
On November 09 2016 09:52 Sent. wrote:
Sooo who was that guy who allegedly tried to shoot Trump yesterday? Was he want-to-be-famous-crazy or need-to-save-my-country-crazy? Or was it a false alarm?


He was a protester holding a "Republicans against Trump" sign. Someone else yelled gun. I don't think that was yesterday, though, so maybe something happened I missed.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
November 09 2016 00:53 GMT
#120070
On November 09 2016 09:48 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 09:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
We are here to stay, Donald Trump all the way. From what we see so far, there's hope.

What happened to your post-debate loss of faith?

What has he done since the debates to restore your shattered faith in his ability to act effectively as an administrator?


I think he's bad. My impressions after the debated never went away and I'm very disappointed with him. That said, imo Hillary is worse. For me it went Trump being a 6 and Hillary a 2, to Trump being a 3-4 and Hillary being a 2.5-3.
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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 09 2016 00:54 GMT
#120071
Clinton wins florida?
Question.?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 09 2016 00:54 GMT
#120072
Hillary back to 50% in Florida
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 09 2016 00:54 GMT
#120073
Seems this is the first election many have followed. The numbers are always all over the place and constantly switching at this point. Percent in doesn't matter as much as which counties have reported.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 09 2016 00:55 GMT
#120074
Can anyone whose election tracker is actually working at a county level say if Miami-Dade has even started reporting yet?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 09 2016 00:55 GMT
#120075
broward isnt even in yet that should be +500k net for hrc
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2016 00:56 GMT
#120076
On November 09 2016 09:52 DickMcFanny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 09:48 Plansix wrote:
On November 09 2016 09:46 DickMcFanny wrote:
On November 09 2016 09:42 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On November 09 2016 09:41 DickMcFanny wrote:
What the shit, I just learned that Californians and New Yorksters get less valuable votes? The fuck?


I mean, the electoral college numbers were made from Representatives + Senators. Reps are population proportional, Senators are guaranteed 2/state.

This guarantees votes in more populous states will be worth proportionally less.


What shit is that? Why don't they just count the popular votes, add them up state by state and make whoever has more people voting for them the POTUS? That's insane.

OMG, because that isn't how we elected the commander and chief. The President isn't supposed to be elected by popular vote because it would give to much power to the urban centers while removing power from the less populated states. We are a collection of tiny governments overseen by one larger, but limited government.


Ah yes, I remember that argument. 'The crisis of democracy', when the wrong people get to vote.

There are likely thousands of articles and papers written on the subject. But the long and short of it is that a straight popular vote would disenfranchise a lot of the states. The president is an important role in the government, but gets far to much attention considering how powerful the legislature is(elected by pure popular vote). In reality, state governments have more impact on the general population.
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 01:02:41
November 09 2016 00:56 GMT
#120077
Trump has helped deeply unpopular Hillary increase turnout in important areas. He's lost, like he was probably always going to, but now what about the Senate? That's what I care about. Need to hold on in FL,GA, MO, NC, NH.

PA, WI, IL prob lost. IL for sure.

And there are some important house races.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 00:57 GMT
#120078
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 09 2016 00:57 GMT
#120079
from 538 feed:
If you’re puzzling at the results in Virginia — more than a fifth of precincts are reporting and Trump leads by more than 10 points — don’t expect an upset there just yet. There’s still a ton of the vote left to report in Northern Virginia, specifically the heavily Democratic Washington D.C. suburbs.


I guess I'm not the only one freaking out about Virginia
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
November 09 2016 00:57 GMT
#120080
On November 09 2016 09:53 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 09:52 Sent. wrote:
Sooo who was that guy who allegedly tried to shoot Trump yesterday? Was he want-to-be-famous-crazy or need-to-save-my-country-crazy? Or was it a false alarm?


False alarm. Was holding a Republicans Against Trump sign. Someone called that a gun.

They should have picked a slogan with a better acronym.
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