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Bisutopia19316 Posts
With a day left and based on the way people lean here, I'd like to know:
Poll: Voting for Hillarybecause I like Hillary as a candidate (13) 45% because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary (0) 0% because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary (1) 3% because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives (11) 38% other (explain) (4) 14% 29 total votes Your vote: Voting for Hillary (Vote): because I like Hillary as a candidate
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary
(Vote): because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives
(Vote): other (explain)
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You can nuke Trump but not his voters. His ideas are popular at least with a significant minority. He has already been a huge influence on the future of US politics.
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I both like her as a candidate but also really dislike the GOP. Disliking the GOP prevents me from voting for them, liking Hillary actually gets me to the polls to vote against them. I'm not sure I could ever consider voting for a member of the republican party again after the last 16 years.
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On November 08 2016 03:55 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:53 LegalLord wrote:
Tomorrow night, we shall know. The results will be one for the history cubes either way. This is dependent on one side accepting the result. I’m not sure that is going to happen. If Trump doesn’t accept the result, we are in uncharted waters.
Does anybody think that Trump actually has the self-awareness or understanding to recognize how important his words are after the election results come in? Does anyone actually think he understands that he could incite violence in a way not seen him in some time with a few words? I for one am worried about what he will say.
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On November 08 2016 04:12 RvB wrote:
You can nuke Trump but not his voters. His ideas are popular at least with a significant minority. He has already been a huge influence on the future of US politics.
Yeah people keep forgetting that Republican voters overwhelmingly support Trump against Ryan in their feud. I think that will shift a lot after Trump loses, given how much masculine/tribal nature the GOP has always had. But the core problem ain't going away.
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Bisutopia19316 Posts
On November 08 2016 04:13 Nevuk wrote:
I both like her as a candidate but also really dislike the GOP. Disliking the GOP prevents me from voting for them, liking Hillary actually gets me to the polls to vote against them. I'm not sure I could ever consider voting for a member of the republican party again after the last 16 years.
As someone who likes her, do you just not buy in to any of the negative news reported on her? I personally don't have a problem with democrats who put up a good candidate, but I'm on the side of someone who doesn't trust or believe in Hillary and for different reasons dislike Trump.
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On November 08 2016 04:09 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:42 Plansix wrote:On November 08 2016 03:26 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 07 2016 22:46 Plansix wrote:On November 07 2016 22:27 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 07 2016 22:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Virginia's highest court ruled in July that Gov McAuliffe can't pardon felons en masse (to free them up to vote), but must consider them on a case by case basis. He then managed to pardon 60,000 felons by using a mechanical pen that signed letters very quickly. Guess they are Democratic voters lol. Wonder if this could be challenged after the election... Well they are hell bent on creating and open border so more democrats can come in, this would be the next step. The more, the merrier (as long as they vote democrat). They don’t even need open borders. The natural progression of demographics will make whites the minority by 2040. In 2020 there will be more non-white children than white children in the US. All citizens able to vote. NPR reported last week the Texas has the shifted to a non-white majority population, but the voter participation is leans to white voters. Unless the Republicans ditch their current tactics, they will fade into a nothing party by the sheer weight of changing demographics. Well that's my point exactly,so I guess we agree? They love illegal inmigrants because their children vote democrat (and so will they with the "path to citizenship"). So you are perfectly ok with the replacement of the native population? Yes. This is America, land created and defined by immigrants. If democrats manage to capture the hearts and minds of immigrant voters, then they deserve the vote. I don’t fear immigrants or their prominence in politics. You seem to be operating under the assumption that immigrants vote democrat automatically. That is not true and Republicans have done well with immigrant populations in previous elections. But the xenophobic scree that has taken over their parties platform has driven all minority groups to democrats. Along with a lot of women who can't deal with the sexism that the Republican party willingly ignores. You see this by the blatant attempts in states like NC to repress voters. They don't even try to hide it at this point. I do not have a problem with inmigrants. I have a problem with ILLEGAL inmigrants, and more so, with ILLEGAL Inmigrants collecting welfare. The core issues that republican's identify with (small goverment, no welfare) is at odds with the preferences of the currents inmigrants, this is indispituable. The democrats are basically bribing them to come in trough the welfare state, and obviously they vote for the party that promises more free stuff and citizenship after getting in illegaly and skipping line. It's not about being "racist", it's about the ideas they support and for who do they vote. If they were rednecks who disproportionally use welfare and because of that vote democrat it would still be a problem for the Republican Party. TLDR: The problem is not that they are mexicans and it's not about "racism", it's that they vote democrat and want bigger government. They could be Japanese and it wouldn't make a difference. I agree with you that if the borders are not enforced, the Republican Party won't win an election in the next 40 years.
You seem confused on one party. If they closed the border tomorrow and all illegal immigrants were removed from the US tomorrow, the Republicans would still lose with their current plan. The demographics currently project whites will be a minority of voters by 2040 without any changes to immigration policy. It is already certain.
The rest of your post isn’t worth responding to. Illegal immigrants are not the problem you claim them to be. I just wanted to make sure you were aware that the debate doesn’t matter. Whites won’t be the majority not in 2040 if we deport them all or not.
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On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Show nested quote +Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN
CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were:
a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up.
b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way)
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United States43737 Posts
On November 08 2016 04:09 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:42 OuchyDathurts wrote:On November 08 2016 03:34 KwarK wrote:On November 08 2016 03:26 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 07 2016 22:46 Plansix wrote:On November 07 2016 22:27 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 07 2016 22:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Virginia's highest court ruled in July that Gov McAuliffe can't pardon felons en masse (to free them up to vote), but must consider them on a case by case basis. He then managed to pardon 60,000 felons by using a mechanical pen that signed letters very quickly. Guess they are Democratic voters lol. Wonder if this could be challenged after the election... Well they are hell bent on creating and open border so more democrats can come in, this would be the next step. The more, the merrier (as long as they vote democrat). They don’t even need open borders. The natural progression of demographics will make whites the minority by 2040. In 2020 there will be more non-white children than white children in the US. All citizens able to vote. NPR reported last week the Texas has the shifted to a non-white majority population, but the voter participation is leans to white voters. Unless the Republicans ditch their current tactics, they will fade into a nothing party by the sheer weight of changing demographics. Well that's my point exactly,so I guess we agree? They love illegal inmigrants because their children vote democrat (and so will they with the "path to citizenship"). So you are perfectly ok with the replacement of the native population? Literally nothing is more in line with the dreams of the American founders than a bunch of people with their own language, culture and race exterminating the existing population and building their own country on the corpses. Also immigrants typically vote Democrat because Democrats don't spend all their time trying to fuck them over. The fact that the pro-life Republican party has somehow managed to lose the hardline Catholic vote is really pretty incredible. There is nothing innately Democratic leaning about immigrants, it's what happens after they immigrate that turns them into Democrats.
Also if the US didn't want so many Hispanic people maybe they should have thought of that before they took over the northern half of Mexico and included it within the US. And then thought of it again before they invited waves of Hispanic immigration to deal with labor shortages. Always mind boggling to me how they apparently don't understand this. If they continue to dig their heels in they're going to become totally irrelevant. You've gotta come to your senses and change your tune at some point and the sooner it happens the better for them as far as switching people over. However instead of doing that and becoming softer on the issue they decided to go 180 degrees in the other direction with their nominee. It's so short sighted and stupid I just don't get it. I guess the plan, if there is one, is to wait till the last possible second, then wait a few minutes longer, then switch when its way too late. On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN Meanwhile Trump had Ted Nugent with him literally grabbing his penis on stage. The man also uses "motherfucker" in speeches and says we should "bomb the shit out of them" at rallies but he's trying to claim the moral high ground. Oh boy we're living in a fevered dream guys. When you're dealing with a party that wants to upend current law and open a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, you can't compete by just becoming the same and pandering for votes, because Democrats are better at it. There's actual principles at stake.
Except they're not just attacking illegal immigrants, they're attacking Americans who were born here like Judge Curiel. They wouldn't have to drop border control to appeal to the Hispanic vote, just the racism.
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On November 08 2016 04:12 RvB wrote:
You can nuke Trump but not his voters. His ideas are popular at least with a significant minority. He has already been a huge influence on the future of US politics.
Many of his voters on Nov 9 will say "He was a terrible candidate, we should have had someone else" just like they said for Romney and McCain. The people that never believed in him. They just grin and bear it pulling that lever toeing the party line. That's a sizable chunk of his voter base and they will nuke him along with the rest of the planet.
The diehards won't but those people have always existed and they've been completely inconsequential and will continue to be so.
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United States43737 Posts
On November 08 2016 04:17 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were: a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up. b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way)
If Trump had described his habit of sexually assaulting women as "grabbing them by their no-no parts" it wouldn't be any better. The outrage isn't over the word pussy, it was over "I don't even ask".
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On November 08 2016 04:17 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were: a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up. b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way)
A) Maybe Hillary supporters have better things to do with their time than show up to a dog and pony show?
B) I was unaware that Jay-z was running for president and not in fact an artist.
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On November 08 2016 04:17 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were: a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up. b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way)
One of those two is an entertainer and the other is running for leader of the most powerful military force on the planet with enough atomic weapons to destroy civilization several times over. The jury is still out if those jobs should be held to a different standard. But I’m going take a chance and say they should be.
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On November 08 2016 04:20 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 04:17 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were: a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up. b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way) If Trump had described his habit of sexually assaulting women as "grabbing them by their no-no parts" it wouldn't be any better. The outrage isn't over the word pussy, it was over "I don't even ask".
I'm also a bit puzzled that Go Tunk thinks that a politician and a hip hop artist's language should be compared at the same level. You can like Eminem and think that what he says in his song would be absolutely terrifying if ever heard from the mouth of the POTUS.
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On November 08 2016 03:42 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:34 KwarK wrote:On November 08 2016 03:26 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 07 2016 22:46 Plansix wrote:On November 07 2016 22:27 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 07 2016 22:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Virginia's highest court ruled in July that Gov McAuliffe can't pardon felons en masse (to free them up to vote), but must consider them on a case by case basis. He then managed to pardon 60,000 felons by using a mechanical pen that signed letters very quickly. Guess they are Democratic voters lol. Wonder if this could be challenged after the election... Well they are hell bent on creating and open border so more democrats can come in, this would be the next step. The more, the merrier (as long as they vote democrat). They don’t even need open borders. The natural progression of demographics will make whites the minority by 2040. In 2020 there will be more non-white children than white children in the US. All citizens able to vote. NPR reported last week the Texas has the shifted to a non-white majority population, but the voter participation is leans to white voters. Unless the Republicans ditch their current tactics, they will fade into a nothing party by the sheer weight of changing demographics. Well that's my point exactly,so I guess we agree? They love illegal inmigrants because their children vote democrat (and so will they with the "path to citizenship"). So you are perfectly ok with the replacement of the native population? Literally nothing is more in line with the dreams of the American founders than a bunch of people with their own language, culture and race exterminating the existing population and building their own country on the corpses. Also immigrants typically vote Democrat because Democrats don't spend all their time trying to fuck them over. The fact that the pro-life Republican party has somehow managed to lose the hardline Catholic vote is really pretty incredible. There is nothing innately Democratic leaning about immigrants, it's what happens after they immigrate that turns them into Democrats.
Also if the US didn't want so many Hispanic people maybe they should have thought of that before they took over the northern half of Mexico and included it within the US. And then thought of it again before they invited waves of Hispanic immigration to deal with labor shortages. Always mind boggling to me how they apparently don't understand this. If they continue to dig their heels in they're going to become totally irrelevant. You've gotta come to your senses and change your tune at some point and the sooner it happens the better for them as far as switching people over. However instead of doing that and becoming softer on the issue they decided to go 180 degrees in the other direction with their nominee. It's so short sighted and stupid I just don't get it. I guess the plan, if there is one, is to wait till the last possible second, then wait a few minutes longer, then switch when its way too late. Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN Meanwhile Trump had Ted Nugent with him literally grabbing his penis on stage. The man also uses "motherfucker" in speeches and says we should "bomb the shit out of them" at rallies but he's trying to claim the moral high ground. Oh boy we're living in a fevered dream guys.
They do understand. In fact every Republican primary -> national election has been a dissertation on how they understand it. Throughout the primary process Republicans appeal to (radical, hardline, extremist, call them what you like) far right voters who are dissatisfied with Democrats soft approach to things like equal treatment for all. Then during the national election with a wink and a nudge they shed off the "Build the wall" rhetoric and alter themselves to a more moderate stance. They promise the racist one thing and the black another.
And it works. They don't go too far as to upset their far right constituents and they don't say anything so definitive that they turn all minority voters against them. Then once elected it's business as usual.
This is the great shake up for 2016. Trump, instead of backing off his rhetoric and donning a mask of moderate inclusiveness, has doubled down. Hell, that's why he blew the other candidates the fuck out in the primary. Rather than just saying to the man that wants to remove illegal immigrants "I think the rule of law should be respected and people should come here legally" he screams "BUILD THAT WALL". How can another Republican compete when someone is going 100% full steam ahead for Republican voters?
In 2 days we're gonna see exactly what that means for getting the majority of Americans to vote for him. The news says he's toast. They're at the point where they're using increasingly esoteric polling methods because the story was told weeks ago - Trumps gonna get dumped.
What will the Republicans learn from this? Probably not much except to try and block out anyone that actually believes in the crazy shit they say for votes. Cause when a moderate Republican stands next to a hard line true believer Republican, holy hell. Poor old Jeb never stood a chance.
On November 08 2016 04:11 BisuDagger wrote:With a day left and based on the way people lean here, I'd like to know: + Show Spoiler +Poll: Voting for Hillarybecause I like Hillary as a candidate (13) 45% because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary (0) 0% because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary (1) 3% because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives (11) 38% other (explain) (4) 14% 29 total votes Your vote: Voting for Hillary (Vote): because I like Hillary as a candidate
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary
(Vote): because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives
(Vote): other (explain)
I'm fine with conservatives. I often disagree with the GOP nationally since they're backwards and appeal to people I wouldn't share a coffee with. But holy hell I'd vote for a trash can before Trump.
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On November 08 2016 04:21 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 04:17 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were: a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up. b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way) A) Maybe Hillary supporters have better things to do with their time than show up to a dog and pony show? B) I was unaware that Jay-z was running for president and not in fact an artist.
Also hearing a real TV star saying stuff like "We're going to win so much, you're going to be so sick and tired of winning" is more likely to attract crowds than a government nerd talking about stuff that matter.
Actually this sentence about winning is one of the most puzzling of the whole campaign to me. Who on earth hears something like that and don't think "Oh come on, stop the BS." I mean at that level, it's just a question of self respect, the guy is talking his supporters for a bunch of absolute morons.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 08 2016 04:11 BisuDagger wrote:With a day left and based on the way people lean here, I'd like to know: Poll: Voting for Hillarybecause I like Hillary as a candidate (13) 45% because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary (0) 0% because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary (1) 3% because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives (11) 38% other (explain) (4) 14% 29 total votes Your vote: Voting for Hillary (Vote): because I like Hillary as a candidate
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary
(Vote): because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives
(Vote): other (explain)
Other because I both dislike Trump/GOP and think Hillary is qualified. But I don't necessarily "like" her per se.
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On November 08 2016 04:11 BisuDagger wrote:With a day left and based on the way people lean here, I'd like to know: Poll: Voting for Hillarybecause I like Hillary as a candidate (13) 45% because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary (0) 0% because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary (1) 3% because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives (11) 38% other (explain) (4) 14% 29 total votes Your vote: Voting for Hillary (Vote): because I like Hillary as a candidate
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, and like Hillary
(Vote): because I always vote democrat, but dislike Hillary
(Vote): because I dislike Trump/GOP/Conservatives
(Vote): other (explain)
Your poll won't work if you don't include "Not voting for Hillary", because you can be absolutely certain that the Trump supporters of the thread will vote "Dislike Clinton / only voting against Trump".
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It's gonna be a super easy post mortem for them though.
"It looks like we did poorly with women voters. I think in 2020 we should go with a candidate who doesn't publicly brag about his history of sexual assault".
"Noted".
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On November 08 2016 04:20 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2016 04:17 GoTuNk! wrote:On November 08 2016 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Trump is actually jealous of Clinton that celebrities are shunning him lol...it's like he's not a "star" anymore. And he just can't help but comment on it... Sarasota, Florida (CNN) — Donald Trump on Monday mocked hip-hop music as he once again criticized the performance Jay Z and Beyonce delivered at a rally for Hillary Clinton, asking whether it was "talking or singing."
"The language is so bad and as they were singing -- singing right? Was it talking or singing? Right? But the language was so bad," Trump said Monday during his first of five rallies the day before Election Day.
Trump's apparent criticism of rap and hip-hop comes in spite of the GOP nominee's repeated attempts to appeal to African-American voters during the final months of his campaign. It also comes as Clinton has ramped up get out the vote efforts in recent days by targeting young and African-American voters in particular. CNN CNN is ridiculous, what that article says (or what you are implying) has nothing to do with what he actually convey in the rally. I watched a bit of the rally online and his points were: a) Look this huge stadium is full of people, and more are crowding outside. Hillary has to bring Jay-z for free and even then no one shows up. b) Whenever Trump says bad things he gets berated from everywhere, but Jay-z can say all sorts of bads words with no problem (this was in a half joke/half serious way) If Trump had described his habit of sexually assaulting women as "grabbing them by their no-no parts" it wouldn't be any better. The outrage isn't over the word pussy, it was over "I don't even ask".
I was simply saying CNN was misrepresenting his words, on purpose, and instead presented what Trump did say.
I was not expressing any opinions on Trump's actual points.
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