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RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
November 07 2016 04:13 GMT
#119061
On November 07 2016 12:48 ChristianS wrote:
Hey how about we talk about the election?

Has anyone watched Frontline's "The Choice" on the two candidates? I know PBS is thought to be kinda liberal but Frontline has always done pretty in-depth and thorough reporting. If you've seen it, worth a watch?


At this point, I don't even care about the election anymore.

I've already made plans if either of our buffoons gets elected.

Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 07 2016 04:17 GMT
#119062
I don't know how old the average poster in the thread is, but how do you guys perceive this election in your work/personal environment? I personally can't remember such a crazy US elections. Any marriages destroyed/neighbours murdered/jobs lost, etc?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 04:22:09
November 07 2016 04:21 GMT
#119063
How it took a top tier presidential campaign team this long to get a hold of Trump's twitter account is baffling. You'd think after the first 3 PR disasters it would have been something of a priority to get under control. Maybe it just took them this many months to make him realize that when he talks it makes him look bad.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 07 2016 04:28 GMT
#119064
When is the appropriate time to start placing official predictions? Mine:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 07 2016 04:36 GMT
#119065


User was warned for this post
Question.?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 04:52:20
November 07 2016 04:50 GMT
#119066
On November 07 2016 13:17 Nyxisto wrote:
I don't know how old the average poster in the thread is, but how do you guys perceive this election in your work/personal environment? I personally can't remember such a crazy US elections. Any marriages destroyed/neighbours murdered/jobs lost, etc?


lets put it this way: the ceo of company made a max donation to clinton and my boss used to be roommates with donna brazile

On November 07 2016 13:21 Tachion wrote:
How it took a top tier presidential campaign team this long to get a hold of Trump's twitter account is baffling. You'd think after the first 3 PR disasters it would have been something of a priority to get under control. Maybe it just took them this many months to make him realize that when he talks it makes him look bad.


"top tier"

On November 07 2016 13:28 Mohdoo wrote:
When is the appropriate time to start placing official predictions? Mine:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


my guess

clinton is holding her election night rally in NC... so i bet their internals look good. OH GA AZ are the next 3 to go blue if so.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 04:55:25
November 07 2016 04:54 GMT
#119067
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I'll go with this
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
November 07 2016 05:05 GMT
#119068
On November 07 2016 13:17 Nyxisto wrote:
I don't know how old the average poster in the thread is, but how do you guys perceive this election in your work/personal environment? I personally can't remember such a crazy US elections. Any marriages destroyed/neighbours murdered/jobs lost, etc?


I have dumped one of my friends for voting Stein. Me and him talked politics for years. To see him abandon any pretense of responsibility in the face of white nationalism and fascism made me realize he isn't worth maintaining in my life.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 05:09:02
November 07 2016 05:08 GMT
#119069
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 07 2016 05:08 GMT
#119070
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 07 2016 05:13 GMT
#119071
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

We could play the "which currency will come out ahead" game until morning. Looking forward to the stock market crash would be the best part.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
November 07 2016 05:21 GMT
#119072
On November 07 2016 13:21 Tachion wrote:
How it took a top tier presidential campaign team this long to get a hold of Trump's twitter account is baffling. You'd think after the first 3 PR disasters it would have been something of a priority to get under control. Maybe it just took them this many months to make him realize that when he talks it makes him look bad.

My guess is Trump's ego was way too big to listen to advice about handing off his twitter account. Can't stop the man from tweeting his thoughts about the world.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 07 2016 05:36 GMT
#119073
On November 07 2016 13:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 13:21 Tachion wrote:
How it took a top tier presidential campaign team this long to get a hold of Trump's twitter account is baffling. You'd think after the first 3 PR disasters it would have been something of a priority to get under control. Maybe it just took them this many months to make him realize that when he talks it makes him look bad.


"top tier"

I mean, it's not wrong to assume that someone running for the highest political position in the country, if not the world, would be backed by some of the best people possible right? ...right?

i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5774 Posts
November 07 2016 05:39 GMT
#119074
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43303 Posts
November 07 2016 05:47 GMT
#119075
On November 07 2016 13:28 Mohdoo wrote:
When is the appropriate time to start placing official predictions? Mine:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I like this one.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23495 Posts
November 07 2016 05:52 GMT
#119076
On November 07 2016 14:39 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.


Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 07 2016 05:57 GMT
#119077
On November 07 2016 14:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 14:39 oBlade wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.


Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.


That is pretty shitty of him. Selfish.
Never Knows Best.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43303 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 06:00:18
November 07 2016 05:58 GMT
#119078
On November 07 2016 14:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 14:39 oBlade wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.


Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.

That's not how the electoral system works. If he does that then the Supreme Court will shit all over him and force him to. The Electoral College is no longer a real representative system, they are not empowered to override the will of the people. In a parliamentary system the MPs are empowered to use their best judgement to decide which government to support and how to represent their voters, in the American presidential system there is no such freedom, they are empowered only directly represent the stated will of the people.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23495 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 06:11:36
November 07 2016 06:09 GMT
#119079
On November 07 2016 14:57 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 14:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:39 oBlade wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.


Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.


That is pretty shitty of him. Selfish.


Not really, he told us this before we elected him.

On November 07 2016 14:58 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 14:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:39 oBlade wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.


Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.

That's not how the electoral system works. If he does that then the Supreme Court will shit all over him and force him to. The Electoral College is no longer a real representative system, they are not empowered to override the will of the people. In a parliamentary system the MPs are empowered to use their best judgement to decide which government to support and how to represent their voters, in the American presidential system there is no such freedom, they are empowered only directly represent the stated will of the people.


Pretty sure the lawyers have said it's $1,000 fine (didn't talk at length to him) and the moniker of a "faithless elector" (this is also what the pamphlet on it said at the convention). Don't think there's much more they could to do him. If you got something else I'd love to see it (sure he would too).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 07 2016 06:14 GMT
#119080
On November 07 2016 14:58 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 14:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:39 oBlade wrote:
On November 07 2016 14:08 plasmidghost wrote:
Imagine the devastation if this actually happened
[image loading]

This map is one that gets worked out a lot and one point is he doesn't need the extra delegate from ME because he seems to "win" at 269. Here's another 269 case:
http://www.270towin.com/maps/G6WEl
Or this: http://www.270towin.com/maps/JNX6z
But these are getting less likely so I'll leave it there.


Clinton will have 1, maybe 2 less electoral vote than anyone maps up though.

Probably wont make a difference, but if it's the 269-269 scenario she'll actually only get 268.

That's not how the electoral system works. If he does that then the Supreme Court will shit all over him and force him to. The Electoral College is no longer a real representative system, they are not empowered to override the will of the people. In a parliamentary system the MPs are empowered to use their best judgement to decide which government to support and how to represent their voters, in the American presidential system there is no such freedom, they are empowered only directly represent the stated will of the people.

That's how it should be, you are elected to represent the will of your constituents, not do your own thing
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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