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On October 19 2016 12:52 plasmidghost wrote: Maybe I just hold politicians to unrealistic standards. I'm a very idealist person (which explains why I'm currently backing Jill Stein) and always think about things in the way I think they should be and not in the way they are. Needless to say, I would not be a good politician
...lol Jill Stein.
If you want to change the political process, get involved, all politics starts with the grassroots.
Yeah, I'm a super idealist and even I know what she wants to do is crazy, to be honest the only reason I'm supporting her is because she seems the least bad choice. She says she will completely eliminate student debt, which I don't even know if it is legal for the president to do (most likely Congress) and is just not a right policy (the people who took the loans knew what they were getting into) and there's no way in hell that the US will go to a 100% clean energy country by 2030 under I think any possible scenario, but I do like that she emphasizes doing something about climate change and quick before it's too late, since it's the issue I most care about. Trump says global warming is a myth, Johnson would get rid of environmental regulations, Clinton has sold fracking to nations and while she does support renewable energies, isn't enough in my opinion
If you like Stein's policies you need to vote for Clinton because voting for Jill is a vote for Trump, you are acting as a spoiler.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Did you interview all recipients or something? lol
Oh, i shoukd have said "publicly supports" not to get one of you pretend he doesn't understand. Actually the hypothesis that not a single laureate would vote for Trump is plausible, which says a lot about the kind of people your orange demagogue appeals to.
The fact is, an enormous amount if scientists, intellectuals, diplomats, writers and artists have backed Clinton and urged americans to stop Trump. I can't really think of any intellectual world class thinker or scientist who backs Trump.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
Those are still worthwhile but the nobel peace prize has been bastardized in recent years. At least the bloke who gave the award to Obama now states he regrets doing so. US boots back on the ground in Iraq btw
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Did you interview all recipients or something? lol
Oh, i shoukd have said "publicly supports" not to get one of you pretend he doesn't understand.
The fact is, an enormous amount if scientists, intellectuals, diplomats, writers and artists have backed Clinton and urged americans to stop Trump. I can't really think of any intellectual world class thinker or scientist who backs Trump.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
Those are still worthwhile but the nobel peace prize has been bastardized in recent years. At least the bloke who gave the award to Obama now states he regrets doing so. US boots back on the ground in Iraq btw
Now ask yourself why no one with a brain supports DJT. Might it be because intellectual integrity and Trumpism don't go well together, i let you decide (but the answer is yes).
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
Those are still worthwhile but the nobel peace prize has been bastardized in recent years. At least the bloke who gave the award to Obama now states he regrets doing so. US boots back on the ground in Iraq btw
Now ask yourself why no one with a brain supports DJT. Might it be because intellectual integrity and Trumpism don't go well together, i let you decide (but the answer is yes).
Considering the disregard for reality and the lack of care about Trumps constant factual lies I would say the regard for intellectuals among Trump voters is rather low.
As someone said during the Brexit campaign "The people have had enough of experts"
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
Those are still worthwhile but the nobel peace prize has been bastardized in recent years. At least the bloke who gave the award to Obama now states he regrets doing so. US boots back on the ground in Iraq btw
Now ask yourself why no one with a brain supports DJT. Might it be because intellectual integrity and Trumpism don't go well together, i let you decide (but the answer is yes).
Considering the disregard for reality and the lack of care about Trumps constant factual lies I would say the regard for intellectuals among Trump voters is rather low.
As someone said during the Brexit campaign "The people have had enough of experts"
Still fun to see Danglar struggle with the fact no one remotely smart support his candidate while an overwhelming amount of intellectual giants, world famous scientists, ranging from Hawking to Noam Chomsky not only condemn Trump but call to vote for Clinton.
The thing is, Danglar and IPN are arguing on the side of Ben Carson, while we are arguing on the side of most of the prominent minds on the planet.
I am shallow, but it just makes me happy to remind them.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
Those are still worthwhile but the nobel peace prize has been bastardized in recent years. At least the bloke who gave the award to Obama now states he regrets doing so. US boots back on the ground in Iraq btw
Now ask yourself why no one with a brain supports DJT. Might it be because intellectual integrity and Trumpism don't go well together, i let you decide (but the answer is yes).
Intellectual integrity? More like worried about being blackballed. You'll find Piers Corbyn, Jeremy Corbyns brother was a strong and vocal supporter of Brexit and he has a masters in astrophysics.The difference is he owns his own company.
We saw Trumps campaign office get firebombed in North Carolina a couple of days ago, bricks thrown through a Trump campaign office in Indiana just yesterday, videos of Scott Foval admitting on camera that democrats are inciting violence at trump rallies and you wonder why more people don't support Trump publicly?....
We'd probably be a lot more shocked by this video if we didn't know that it comes from a source that is famous for heavily editing their videos in a dishonest fashion to make reality conform to their bias.
Does that sound like a sustainable position to you, Nettles?
I don't even see what the use is to get people to punch you. No one is going to go "Someone at some rally punched someone else, I better not support Trump".
On October 19 2016 20:49 Nebuchad wrote: We'd probably be a lot more shocked by this video if we didn't know that it comes from a source that is famous for heavily editing their videos in a dishonest fashion to make reality conform to their bias.
Does that sound like a sustainable position to you, Nettles?
Did you even watch the video? If you did you wouldn't come to that conclusion. It's legit as can be.
On October 19 2016 20:49 Nebuchad wrote: We'd probably be a lot more shocked by this video if we didn't know that it comes from a source that is famous for heavily editing their videos in a dishonest fashion to make reality conform to their bias.
Does that sound like a sustainable position to you, Nettles?
Did you even watch the video? If you did you wouldn't come to that conclusion. It's legit as can be.
On October 19 2016 20:49 Nebuchad wrote: We'd probably be a lot more shocked by this video if we didn't know that it comes from a source that is famous for heavily editing their videos in a dishonest fashion to make reality conform to their bias.
Does that sound like a sustainable position to you, Nettles?
Did you even watch the video? If you did you wouldn't come to that conclusion. It's legit as can be.
No, I didn't watch the video.
What makes you think it's as legit as can be?
Very little editing. I advise you to watch the video before commenting further on it.
On October 19 2016 20:51 Gorsameth wrote: I don't even see what the use is to get people to punch you. No one is going to go "Someone at some rally punched someone else, I better not support Trump".
It makes no sense
Spreading the idea that Trumps rallies and supporters are violent. Negative media attention, get the media to focus attention on the violence instead of what Trump is saying.
On October 19 2016 20:49 Nebuchad wrote: We'd probably be a lot more shocked by this video if we didn't know that it comes from a source that is famous for heavily editing their videos in a dishonest fashion to make reality conform to their bias.
Does that sound like a sustainable position to you, Nettles?
Did you even watch the video? If you did you wouldn't come to that conclusion. It's legit as can be.
No, I didn't watch the video.
What makes you think it's as legit as can be?
Very little editing. I advise you to watch the video before commenting further on it.
I won't follow your advice in this particular situation. Thanks anyway.
You know what's more legit than "very little editing"? No editing.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Did you interview all recipients or something? lol
Oh, i shoukd have said "publicly supports" not to get one of you pretend he doesn't understand.
The fact is, an enormous amount if scientists, intellectuals, diplomats, writers and artists have backed Clinton and urged americans to stop Trump. I can't really think of any intellectual world class thinker or scientist who backs Trump.
But keep arguing
Ben Carson!
Does not fit into this category. Yes, he is a neurosurgeon, and that means he is a talented craftsman with a steady hand, but that does not mean he made any scientific advances. He is nowhere near nobel prize level.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Is the eminent Bob Dylan represented?
Nobel prize is clearly worth nothing, u right bro. Especially stuff like chemistry, economics or physics.
70 nobel laureates from all fields wrote an open letter saying they support strongly Hillary Clinton and that in the interest of science and the safeguard of our freedom she must become president of the united states.
Clearly a rigged election, no nobel supports Trump. Very unfair.
Did you interview all recipients or something? lol
Oh, i shoukd have said "publicly supports" not to get one of you pretend he doesn't understand.
The fact is, an enormous amount if scientists, intellectuals, diplomats, writers and artists have backed Clinton and urged americans to stop Trump. I can't really think of any intellectual world class thinker or scientist who backs Trump.
But keep arguing
Ben Carson!
Does not fit into this category. Yes, he is a neurosurgeon, and that means he is a talented craftsman with a steady hand, but that does not mean he made any scientific advances. He is nowhere near nobel prize level.
Based on my observations, I'd say he has clearly reached the limit of his full intellectual capacity. There is literally not a single additional thought or bit of knowledge that could fit into his brain beyond what he knows as a neurosurgeon.
Honestly, Carson is a good reason to suggest that maybe the "moderate rebels" in Syria that Clinton has described as doctors and so forth are perhaps not the most well-informed or reasonable people that you'd expect from those kinds of titles.
On October 19 2016 20:51 Gorsameth wrote: I don't even see what the use is to get people to punch you. No one is going to go "Someone at some rally punched someone else, I better not support Trump".
It makes no sense
Spreading the idea that Trumps rallies and supporters are violent. Negative media attention, get the media to focus attention on the violence instead of what Trump is saying.
Thats a good thing considering the dumb shit that Trump says is much better at turning people away from him then any report of violence.
Not to mention tho whole bit about someone wearing an "offensive" t-shirt not being an acceptable reason to punch them.
On October 19 2016 20:23 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:... You'll find Piers Corbyn, Jeremy Corbyns brother was a strong and vocal supporter of Brexit and he has a masters in astrophysics.The difference is he owns his own company. ...
I don't see what this has to do with the intellectuals (or lack thereof) supporting Trump.
EPT
