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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
It definitely doesn't help her image. However thr silver lining may be with her sidelined for health reasons that we may see more peoplelike Biden and Michelle going forward. Regardless of this health issue I still believe this ultimately come down to the debates. If Hillary can hold serve or force a mistake from Trump that gets him in trouble then she should be fine. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16169 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
he's thinking of something scientific but pragmatic. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4398 Posts
Shocking footage out of NYC yesterday. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On September 12 2016 06:49 xDaunt wrote: The more interesting question is whether the pneumonia is secondary to anything. I'm not sure that I buy the allergy story. Oh shit the lawyer asking good questions. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:00 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Whatever Clintons health issues are we can all agree they are worsening. Shocking footage out of NYC yesterday. No, I think only you and other infowars readers can. Pneumonia is not a worsening health condition, and it is not something serious. But it doesn't matter because you're one of the people trump mentioned when he said his supporters would still support him even if he went and murdered someone in broad daylight in front of everyone. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:15 xDaunt wrote: I don't get this "pneumonia isn't serious" line. It is a very bad infection and a major killer of old people. And it is also very commonly a secondary illness to other serious health problems. Why would she hug that kid in front of Chelsea's apartment if she knew she had pneumonia? | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
EDIT: If she's on antibiotics she very likely isn't contagious. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:20 zeo wrote: Why would she hug that kid in front of Chelsea's apartment if she knew she had pneumonia? It may not have been contagious depending upon where she was in her antibiotic regimen and the type of pneumonia. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:15 xDaunt wrote: I don't get this "pneumonia isn't serious" line. It is a very bad infection and a major killer of old people. And it is also very commonly a secondary illness to other serious health problems. Indeed. Even if doesn't end up being fatal or causing permanent harm it is not a trivial disease like the common cold. I've had plenty of relatives contract pneumonia and to put it lightly it is never a pleasant experience. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28779 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:15 xDaunt wrote: I don't get this "pneumonia isn't serious" line. It is a very bad infection and a major killer of old people. And it is also very commonly a secondary illness to other serious health problems. come on dude, I understand that you think it's wise of Trump to harp on her health or whatever, but you're really sounding more and more conspiratorical when talking about her health issues. Pneumonia isn't something that disqualifies one from office, it's something you rest until you've recovered while taking antibiotics. Then when you get it during campaign trails and 911 memorial which she obviously couldn't stay home from because that would maybe look even worse than her fainting like this, that is a case of shitty timing, but it doesn't mean anything. I get when you're arguing that Trump should engage her with full robert stone conspiracy mode, I can accept that being strategically wise, but I don't get why you are suddenly trying to argue with a straight face in this thread that getting pneumonia (and I think that's a very legit-sounding reason for fainting myself) disqualifies someone from being president. I had pneumonia last year myself. I was really sick and coughing like crazy and I stayed home from work for a week, but once it was over it was over. Of course I'm a 32 year old man so my recovery is swifter and easier, but it's just.. This isn't a relevant line of attack, especially not for a person whose VP you and pretty much everyone else would prefer. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
An otherwise healthy person takes antibiotics (if it's bacterial) and gets bed rest. Influenza is quite a serious disease as well, but since we live in a 1st world country, we can deal with it. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:28 Liquid`Drone wrote: come on dude, I understand that you think it's wise of Trump to harp on her health or whatever, but you're really sounding more and more conspiratorical when talking about her health issues. Pneumonia isn't something that disqualifies one from office, it's something you rest until you've recovered while taking antibiotics. Then when you get it during campaign trails and 911 memorial which she obviously couldn't stay home from because that would maybe look even worse than her fainting like this, that is a case of shitty timing, but it doesn't mean anything. I get when you're arguing that Trump should engage her with full robert stone conspiracy mode, I can accept that being strategically wise, but I don't get why you are suddenly trying to argue with a straight face in this thread that getting pneumonia (and I think that's a very legit-sounding reason for fainting myself) disqualifies someone from being president. Either she takes a day off and empowers the conspirtards or she tries to power through it. Kind of a Hobson's Choice there. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:29 Stratos_speAr wrote: Pneumonia is serious as an infection secondary to another medical condition. It's not anything that's incredibly alarming on its own. True - but it's not something to trivialize either, as some have tried to do in this thread. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:29 Stratos_speAr wrote: Pneumonia is serious as an infection secondary to another medical condition. It's not anything that's incredibly alarming on its own. Another medical condition here includes old age. Heck, even for young people it can be lethal depending on the pathogen. Pneumonia is by it's incidence relatively trivial, but it is NOT a trivial disease. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:28 Liquid`Drone wrote: come on dude, I understand that you think it's wise of Trump to harp on her health or whatever, but you're really sounding more and more conspiratorical when talking about her health issues. Pneumonia isn't something that disqualifies one from office, it's something you rest until you've recovered while taking antibiotics. Then when you get it during campaign trails and 911 memorial which she obviously couldn't stay home from because that would maybe look even worse than her fainting like this, that is a case of shitty timing, but it doesn't mean anything. I get when you're arguing that Trump should engage her with full robert stone conspiracy mode, I can accept that being strategically wise, but I don't get why you are suddenly trying to argue with a straight face in this thread that getting pneumonia (and I think that's a very legit-sounding reason for fainting myself) disqualifies someone from being president. I'm not being conspiratorial at all. I am just stating the facts and highlighting the obvious questions to be asked because I understand the medical issues. And I haven't said once that Hillary's health problems are disqualifying. In fact, I have repeatedly said "I don't know" on that point. But I find it hilarious that the Hillary defense force takes my points so seriously (and so out of context), so I am kinda inclined to keep poking the bear. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On September 12 2016 07:32 Ghostcom wrote: Another medical condition here includes old age. Heck, even for young people it can be lethal depending on the pathogen. Pneumonia is by it's incidence relatively trivial, but it is NOT a trivial disease. No, it doesn't. Old age is an easy but not always accurate correlation with things like heart disease, COPD, diabetes, etc. The reason pneumonia is worse for old people is because old people are almost always already ill. As a medical professional that works in an emergency room, I can tell you that a diagnosis of primary pneumonia isn't incredibly concerning. Treatment, bed rest, keeping an eye out and it should resolve in a week. | ||
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