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Acrofales
Spain18488 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:44 xDaunt wrote: That second paragraph isn't clear enough to you? I can't remember how often I used a pencil sharpener in the last 8 years. I think I received training in how to use a pencil sharpener at some point in my life, but most of the time I just rely on the official supply of fresh pencils. Does this make me unqualified to use a pencil sharpener? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:47 LegalLord wrote: It always takes a great deal of cognitive dissonance to look past the many flaws Hillary has while barely acknowledging them, if at all. Why would this be any different? Well, this is a simple exercise in reading comprehension, so I'd hope people would figure it out easily enough. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:49 xDaunt wrote: Well, this is a simple exercise in reading comprehension, so I'd hope people would figure it out easily enough. I mean, when people try to spin obvious cronyism into "she knows how to get things done cuz she knows how to trade favors for power" I think the chances of that are pretty much nil. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
@ xdaunt when an officer pulls you over for speeding and says "do you know why i pulled you over?" what do you say? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:53 IgnE wrote: Her answers are a non-issue though. Anyone who said anything beyond "I don't remember" would be a moron. Well, normally this would be a simple question of "stupid or liar," but but in Hillary's case, we can also throw in neurological disorder from her head injury. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22702 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:54 xDaunt wrote: Well, normally this would be a simple question of "stupid or liar," but but in Hillary's case, we can also throw in neurological disorder from her head injury. As a lawyer I would expect you to know that 'I don't remember' is the default answer to any question. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:56 Gorsameth wrote: As a lawyer I would expect you to know that 'I don't remember' is the default answer to any question. "I don't know" is a really bad answer to give to questions that you should know the answer to for very obvious reasons. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:56 IgnE wrote: you cant defend trump for exercising his legal rights while excoriating hillary for exercising hers I'm not criticizing her exercise of a right. I'm just pointing out the obvious problems with the answers that she gave. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:56 Gorsameth wrote: As a lawyer I would expect you to know that 'I don't remember' is the default answer to any question. While I don't necessarily agree with xDaunt, I'd point out there's a big difference between a statement made semi-privately to cover your own ass in a legal setting, and one thats going to be public due to the scrutiny you're under as a public official and candidate for the highest office. What is legally the safest thing to say and what makes you look the least bad to the public are two different things. Most people don't have to worry about the latter, but for Hillary Clinton that isn't the case. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:59 xDaunt wrote: I'm not criticizing her exercise of a right. I'm just pointing out the obvious problems with the answers that she gave. OK. you cant ignore the obvious problems with Trumps refusal to do certain things and excoriate Hillary for hers. Especially when the nature of the action is worlds apart in terms of the impact. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:59 xDaunt wrote: I'm not criticizing her exercise of a right. I'm just pointing out the obvious problems with the answers that she gave. there are problems with any answer she could have given but we already knew that so what do you say to officers who pull you over? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:08 IgnE wrote: there are problems with any answer she could have given but we already knew that so what do you say to officers who pull you over? In that case, I'd very clearly say something to the effect of "I don't know." No point guessing why the officer pulled me over when it could be for any number of things -- even if I knew I was speeding. EDIT: And before you say it, yes, I do know better than to admit to a crime. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22702 Posts
On September 04 2016 08:58 xDaunt wrote: "I don't know" is a really bad answer to give to questions that you should know the answer to for very obvious reasons. What is the obvious question she should have answered directly out of those listed in the picture? Pretty much all of them look vague or distant (8 years or more ago) enough to not be obvious. The most standout (and only one to me) is probably not a giving a basic example of a classified document. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:04 Rebs wrote: OK. you cant ignore the obvious problems with Trumps refusal to do certain things and excoriate Hillary for hers. Especially when the nature of the action is worlds apart in terms of the impact. What exactly have I given Trump a pass on when I have excoriated Hillary for doing the same thing? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:13 Gorsameth wrote: What is the obvious question she should have answered directly out of those listed in the picture? Pretty much all of them look vague or distant (8 years or more ago) enough to not be obvious. The most standout (and only one to me) is probably not a giving a basic example of a classified document. You can't tell what was asked from looking at those notes, so I can't tell you what she should have said differently in response to any specific question. However, those notes very clearly demonstrate that Hillary was so ignorant of how the confidentiality system worked that she was entirely reliant upon others for her own compliance. That is a very troubling discovery. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:14 xDaunt wrote: What exactly have I given Trump a pass on when I have excoriated Hillary for doing the same thing? I didnt say it was for the same thing. Basic reading comprehension ? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:23 Rebs wrote: I didnt say it was for the same thing. Basic reading comprehension ? If it's not for the same thing, then your point is idiotic. Excuse me for giving you the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:24 xDaunt wrote: If it's not for the same thing, then your point is idiotic. Excuse me for giving you the benefit of the doubt. Oh so thats the kind of argument we have devolved to now. Very well. xDaunt with the double down. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22702 Posts
On September 04 2016 09:17 xDaunt wrote: You can't tell what was asked from looking at those notes, so I can't tell you what she should have said differently in response to any specific question. However, those notes very clearly demonstrate that Hillary was so ignorant of how the confidentiality system worked that she was entirely reliant upon others for her own compliance. That is a very troubling discovery. I can see where your coming from with that yeah. For me tho considering the amount of documents that will be passing through the State department it makes sense to primarily leave it to others to sort it out. | ||
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