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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote: We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple. I like guillotines and let's make them public. Create jobs, sell tickets and help pay off that debt. Maybe bring back the gladiator games well. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
On June 17 2016 01:14 Plansix wrote: Trail by combat would make the whole justice process way more interesting. Though I doubt it would be as exciting as GoT. A lot of one sided matches. Fan duel and draft kings open up their gladiator section for betting and setting up fantasy teams | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote: We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple. I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 17 2016 01:16 LegalLord wrote: I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level. Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
The problem is 1) discovering those cocktails and 2) actually having an adequate supply of specialist ingredients for them, because the death penalty market alone can't sustain R+D or production of them. I'm somewhat surprised we don't just use surgical anesthesia and then kill people mechanically (gunshot to temple, whatever), though. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22667 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
That is the entire problem, that you need to find people willing to take part in the execution and do it in a way where they don’t end up with PTSD because it was botched or simply took a long time. On June 17 2016 01:19 xDaunt wrote: Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude. There is a reason we stopped using those. People miss. The guilt/PTSD was a problem after the execution. Some shots were not lethal. Its seems simply until we get to the point there humans need to pull the trigger. And before someone suggests a bullet robot thing, people need to build that and take care of it. At some point we have to ask ourselves the question if the execution is worth all this effort when there is no upside or benefit. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
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TMagpie
265 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 17 2016 01:19 xDaunt wrote: Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude. If we're using quick, this is in the context of waiting the average 15 years a sclerotic justice system gets around to the act. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
On June 17 2016 02:08 Mohdoo wrote: Isn't the government able to just use an insane amount of morphine? You don't need the companies to make you a new drug, we already have it. Hell, you could hook them up to a nitrogen tank and they would just slowly pass out and eventually die. There are some extremely humane ways to do it that don't require any amount of involvement from drug companies. If you can buy a tank of nitrogen, you have all you need. What nitrogen company do you suggest who are willing to comply? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Or just not execute people. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On June 17 2016 02:11 SolaR- wrote: What nitrogen company do you suggest who are willing to comply? I am willing to bet our government has enough stored up nitrogen to last a hundred years of death penalties. Are companies going to just stop supplying nitrogen to the government? Oh well, fortunately it is extremely easy to purify and store nitrogen. Step 1: Shoot someone with tranquilizer dart Step 2: Load them up with a nitrogen mask Kapow, all done. On June 17 2016 02:14 Plansix wrote: Or just not execute people. This is of course preferred lol. I am by no means saying this is a good thing to do. Just saying that we have no reason to poison people when they could just take a nap and never wake up. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8210 Posts
On June 17 2016 01:43 Danglars wrote: If we're using quick, this is in the context of waiting the average 15 years a sclerotic justice system gets around to the act. And a dysfunctional system that is completely unfair and send innocent people to the slaughter. Especially when they are black and poor. Death penalty is a disgrace, and death penalty in the US is the one biggest shame of that country (even though the list is long). But some people want blood I guess. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2686 Posts
On June 17 2016 02:23 Biff The Understudy wrote: And a dysfunctional system that is completely unfair and send innocent people to the slaughter. Especially when they are black and poor. Death penalty is a disgrace, and death penalty in the US is the one biggest shame of that country (even though the list is long). But some people want blood I guess. Eh, if you murdered or raped someone you should just be killed off swiftly. People like that don't deserve to live. This world already has a huge overpopulation problem that shows no signs of slowing down. What is the point in keeping those awful people around? | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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