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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 16:14:47
June 16 2016 16:12 GMT
#81341
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.


I like guillotines and let's make them public. Create jobs, sell tickets and help pay off that debt. Maybe bring back the gladiator games well.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2016 16:14 GMT
#81342
Trail by combat would make the whole justice process way more interesting. Though I doubt it would be as exciting as GoT. A lot of one sided matches.
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 16 2016 16:16 GMT
#81343
On June 17 2016 01:14 Plansix wrote:
Trail by combat would make the whole justice process way more interesting. Though I doubt it would be as exciting as GoT. A lot of one sided matches.


Fan duel and draft kings open up their gladiator section for betting and setting up fantasy teams
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 16:17:00
June 16 2016 16:16 GMT
#81344
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.

I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 16 2016 16:19 GMT
#81345
On June 17 2016 01:16 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.

I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level.

Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 16:27:27
June 16 2016 16:25 GMT
#81346
At least in theory the point of lethal injection is to kill someone as humanely as possible (admittedly that's a bizarre concept). If it's executed properly there are probably tons of drug cocktails that result in far less pain, mess, and are far more effective at killing quicker than a firing squad.

The problem is 1) discovering those cocktails and 2) actually having an adequate supply of specialist ingredients for them, because the death penalty market alone can't sustain R+D or production of them. I'm somewhat surprised we don't just use surgical anesthesia and then kill people mechanically (gunshot to temple, whatever), though.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 16 2016 16:25 GMT
#81347
Why not just load them up with morphine and then shoot them. I think the anxiety of waiting to be shot would be the worst part, but with the morphine you would just be lying there unaware. Makes it easier for both parties.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 16 2016 16:29 GMT
#81348
another problem is finding the physicians to administer the injection
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22062 Posts
June 16 2016 16:29 GMT
#81349
Yeah you would think an anesthetic + hard stopper would be pretty easy. But mostly its that companies want nothing to do with the entire procedure.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 16:35:22
June 16 2016 16:31 GMT
#81350
That is the entire problem, that you need to find people willing to take part in the execution and do it in a way where they don’t end up with PTSD because it was botched or simply took a long time.

That is the entire problem, that you need to find people willing to take part in the execution and do it in a way where they don’t end up with PTSD because it was botched or simply took a long time.

On June 17 2016 01:19 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:16 LegalLord wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.

I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level.

Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude.

There is a reason we stopped using those. People miss. The guilt/PTSD was a problem after the execution. Some shots were not lethal. Its seems simply until we get to the point there humans need to pull the trigger.

And before someone suggests a bullet robot thing, people need to build that and take care of it. At some point we have to ask ourselves the question if the execution is worth all this effort when there is no upside or benefit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 16 2016 16:35 GMT
#81351
I'll gladly take the position for a three figure salary
TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
June 16 2016 16:40 GMT
#81352
It's primarily a lack of commitment. If we believe we must "punish" people, then we should actually punish them. If we believe we must "rehabilitate" people, then let's actually rehabilitate people. Putting them in boxes for decades at a time is simply inhumane and hurts everyone for the sake of cowardice.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 16 2016 16:43 GMT
#81353
On June 17 2016 01:19 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:16 LegalLord wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.

I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level.

Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude.

If we're using quick, this is in the context of waiting the average 15 years a sclerotic justice system gets around to the act.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15729 Posts
June 16 2016 17:08 GMT
#81354
Isn't the government able to just use an insane amount of morphine? You don't need the companies to make you a new drug, we already have it. Hell, you could hook them up to a nitrogen tank and they would just slowly pass out and eventually die. There are some extremely humane ways to do it that don't require any amount of involvement from drug companies. If you can buy a tank of nitrogen, you have all you need.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 16 2016 17:11 GMT
#81355
On June 17 2016 02:08 Mohdoo wrote:
Isn't the government able to just use an insane amount of morphine? You don't need the companies to make you a new drug, we already have it. Hell, you could hook them up to a nitrogen tank and they would just slowly pass out and eventually die. There are some extremely humane ways to do it that don't require any amount of involvement from drug companies. If you can buy a tank of nitrogen, you have all you need.


What nitrogen company do you suggest who are willing to comply?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 16 2016 17:14 GMT
#81356
Ok, so if it was that easy they would have done it. And once again, the state goverment needs to buy the morphine from some place. And then they need to find someone to administer it and up the dosage until the person dies, which is not an exact art. And make sure they don't suffer.

Or just not execute people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15729 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 17:16:32
June 16 2016 17:15 GMT
#81357
On June 17 2016 02:11 SolaR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 02:08 Mohdoo wrote:
Isn't the government able to just use an insane amount of morphine? You don't need the companies to make you a new drug, we already have it. Hell, you could hook them up to a nitrogen tank and they would just slowly pass out and eventually die. There are some extremely humane ways to do it that don't require any amount of involvement from drug companies. If you can buy a tank of nitrogen, you have all you need.


What nitrogen company do you suggest who are willing to comply?


I am willing to bet our government has enough stored up nitrogen to last a hundred years of death penalties. Are companies going to just stop supplying nitrogen to the government? Oh well, fortunately it is extremely easy to purify and store nitrogen.

Step 1: Shoot someone with tranquilizer dart
Step 2: Load them up with a nitrogen mask

Kapow, all done.

On June 17 2016 02:14 Plansix wrote:
Or just not execute people.


This is of course preferred lol. I am by no means saying this is a good thing to do. Just saying that we have no reason to poison people when they could just take a nap and never wake up.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 17:24:14
June 16 2016 17:23 GMT
#81358
On June 17 2016 01:43 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:19 xDaunt wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:16 LegalLord wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.

I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level.

Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude.

If we're using quick, this is in the context of waiting the average 15 years a sclerotic justice system gets around to the act.

And a dysfunctional system that is completely unfair and send innocent people to the slaughter. Especially when they are black and poor.

Death penalty is a disgrace, and death penalty in the US is the one biggest shame of that country (even though the list is long). But some people want blood I guess.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 16 2016 17:27 GMT
#81359
On June 17 2016 02:23 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:43 Danglars wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:19 xDaunt wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:16 LegalLord wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
We ought to bring back firing squads and hanging for conducting executions. Lethal injection is turning into shit show. Let's keep it simple.

I read a news article a few years back where some states either wanted to or have brought back firing squads as a more common form of execution. Argument was that lethal injections have been a shit show and that firing squads are actually more humane than they look. Not sure to what extent I believe it but it definitely is a topic that is being considered at the local/state level.

Firing squad is cheap, quick, and effective. Yes, it makes a little bit of a mess compared to lethal injection, but let's get real: we're killing a dude.

If we're using quick, this is in the context of waiting the average 15 years a sclerotic justice system gets around to the act.

And a dysfunctional system that is completely unfair and send innocent people to the slaughter. Especially when they are black and poor.

Death penalty is a disgrace, and death penalty in the US is the one biggest shame of that country (even though the list is long). But some people want blood I guess.


Eh, if you murdered or raped someone you should just be killed off swiftly. People like that don't deserve to live. This world already has a huge overpopulation problem that shows no signs of slowing down. What is the point in keeping those awful people around?
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
June 16 2016 17:45 GMT
#81360
Solar- population is estimated to stop going up this century, killing off a few prisoners won't change or can't change that. Fixing poverty throughout the world would be the best way to actually make population peak sooner if that is your goal.
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