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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 24 2016 18:07 GMT
#69001
why would bernie be more affected? hispanics voting for sanders?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 24 2016 18:11 GMT
#69002
On March 25 2016 03:07 oneofthem wrote:
why would bernie be more affected? hispanics voting for sanders?

That's the problem with Sanders, he's too liberal that minorities are actually scared of him.

Minorities in America are very socially conservative, and while a large part of their population is poor, and benefit from liberal domestic economic policies (welfare, foodstamps, healthcare, etc), they also become a lot more economically conservative once they've risen out of poverty.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 24 2016 18:13 GMT
#69003
I don't think minorities are scared of him at all. He is just some dude from VT they have never heard of and says he is a socialist.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Naracs_Duc
Profile Joined August 2015
746 Posts
March 24 2016 18:20 GMT
#69004
On March 25 2016 01:20 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 01:15 Plansix wrote:
On March 25 2016 01:10 parkufarku wrote:
On March 25 2016 00:37 Plansix wrote:
“I have a feeling Clinton was behind it” pretty much sums up a lot of the acquisitions of election manipulation leveled against her. Gut feelings. Lets not forget that it’s a GOP controlled state with GOP written voter laws. But lets level the conspiracy theories against Clinton.


Early votes, which were predominately older voters, were not hampered with, while the later votes were given a lot of difficulty. And it's known that older voters favor Clinton.

A ton of people were still waiting in line near midnight. People waited close to 5 hours in line, where many people had to go home b/c it was just too much, especially without water / food / bathroom.

A lot of the video footage shows these places giving provisional ballots for those switching from independent to democrat, which, by statistics, lean toward Bernie.

The list goes on and on.


Correlation is not causation.


No, but when correlation often point toward a certain direction, it often is the case.

Obviously I can't prove it happened, but as they say, 'if it smells like X & looks like X, it probably is X.'


This is so adorable! Its like watching a puppy try to climb down a set of stairs. You can't help but watch him struggle with each step in the process
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23949 Posts
March 24 2016 18:26 GMT
#69005
So sad to see people defend obvious media manipulation to help their candidate.

Maybe Ticklish is right about them just being grossly incompetent and using an obviously stupid turnout estimate. But then why did they just try to hide it and never mention it and then removed their graphics earlier than they have after any previous primary day?

They know they screwed up and rather than admit it and explain what happened they are just hoping Hillary supporters carry their water and sure enough here they are doing just that.

People have avoided the meat of the complaints because it's easier to just call it a conspiracy and make shitty x-files jokes. It's pathetic, and just like black voters in the south which are finding out the Clintons are happy to throw Obama under the bus once they got enough black voters, you all will realize you're just as disposable as she moves to the center (where she really is and has been the whole time). Unless of course you're also a centrist and not a liberal or progressive.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 24 2016 18:28 GMT
#69006
GH is salty because we had a discussion about Clinton where he could throw in his barbs and claim that she is stealing the election from Sanders.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23949 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 18:40:53
March 24 2016 18:29 GMT
#69007
On March 25 2016 03:28 Plansix wrote:
GH is salty because we had a discussion about Clinton where he could throw in his barbs and claim that she is stealing the election from Sanders.


Show me where I said she stole this election in Arizona? Or is it just easier to make something up and argue against that?

EDIT: Also I saw I was credited by someone for posting that Huffpo article, it wasn't me or the argument I was making. I've noticed you all like to take the most absurd reddit comments (often from non-Bernie supporters) and try to place them all on me rather than argue the points I myself am making.

EDIT2: I do hope they can count more than 62 votes today though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 24 2016 18:40 GMT
#69008
On March 25 2016 03:29 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 03:28 Plansix wrote:
GH is salty because we had a discussion about Clinton where he could throw in his barbs and claim that she is stealing the election from Sanders.


Show me where I said she stole this election in Arizona? Or is it just easier to make something up and argue against that?

EDIT: Also I saw I was credited by someone for posting that Huffpo article, it wasn't me or the argument I was making. I've noticed you all like to take the most absurd reddit comments (often from non-Bernie supporters) and try to place them all on me rather than argue the points I myself am making.


You should ask yourself why that is. Self-reflection is good for the soul. As is known.

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23949 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 18:50:29
March 24 2016 18:45 GMT
#69009
On March 25 2016 03:40 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 03:29 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 25 2016 03:28 Plansix wrote:
GH is salty because we had a discussion about Clinton where he could throw in his barbs and claim that she is stealing the election from Sanders.


Show me where I said she stole this election in Arizona? Or is it just easier to make something up and argue against that?

EDIT: Also I saw I was credited by someone for posting that Huffpo article, it wasn't me or the argument I was making. I've noticed you all like to take the most absurd reddit comments (often from non-Bernie supporters) and try to place them all on me rather than argue the points I myself am making.


You should ask yourself why that is. Self-reflection is good for the soul. As is known.



I know why it is. Because they don't get satisfaction arguing on reddit so they bring it here and paint it on top of what I'm saying. Instead of addressing what I'm talking about, they take whatever stupid reddit comment pissed them off and say "Of course GH is making the same "the truth is out there argument" instead of addressing the obvious problems with the vote and reporting of the vote in AZ (beyond the lines).

They give a piss poor explanation for the media and expect it to be enough. It's not and it's obvious. We currently have outlets saying anywhere between 79% and 100% of the vote has already been counted and Maricopa County is saying only ~32k people voted on the 22nd. Anyone with eyes can see the problem with that, yet here are the hillbots acting blind to the whole thing.

Though I have to say Ticklish claiming Hillary's silence on the issue is because she really cares takes the cake for ridiculously dumb excuses.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 24 2016 18:52 GMT
#69010
The classic “They won’t argument against my points” when we long ago did so but he kept saying the same thing over and over. At some point you become a broken record and we are only left with the mocking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23949 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 18:59:38
March 24 2016 18:58 GMT
#69011
On March 25 2016 03:52 Plansix wrote:
The classic “They won’t argument against my points” when we long ago did so but he kept saying the same thing over and over. At some point you become a broken record and we are only left with the mocking.


No you really didn't.

The explanations attempted didn't even get basic facts right. But tell yourselves you already refuted them and that I'm the one who doesn't get it...

I'll take the absence of an example of me claiming what you said I claimed as admission it was bullshit, and an example of what I'm talking about.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
March 24 2016 19:00 GMT
#69012
Man, Republicans just don't get this whole Trump thing. How could they think it's a good idea to run an add featuring his naked (super-hot) wife, and expect it to hurt him?

Anyone who already supports Trump would absolutely not give a flying fuck that his wife posed nude. I would assume they basically would expect it....
I await the reminiscent nerd chills I will get when I hear a Korean broadcaster yell "WEEAAAAVVVVVUUUHHH" while watching Dota
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 24 2016 19:05 GMT
#69013
On March 25 2016 04:00 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Man, Republicans just don't get this whole Trump thing. How could they think it's a good idea to run an add featuring his naked (super-hot) wife, and expect it to hurt him?

Anyone who already supports Trump would absolutely not give a flying fuck that his wife posed nude. I would assume they basically would expect it....


That's one reason to support Trump ^^
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23949 Posts
March 24 2016 19:05 GMT
#69014
On March 25 2016 04:00 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Man, Republicans just don't get this whole Trump thing. How could they think it's a good idea to run an add featuring his naked (super-hot) wife, and expect it to hurt him?

Anyone who already supports Trump would absolutely not give a flying fuck that his wife posed nude. I would assume they basically would expect it....


I'm guessing they were trying to appeal to the crowd that made an uproar about Michelle Obama's sleeveless dresses. Still not willing to admit that it wasn't about "class" or "formality" at all.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
March 24 2016 19:29 GMT
#69015
Why would Trump try to stop this?

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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 24 2016 19:45 GMT
#69016
On March 25 2016 04:29 DickMcFanny wrote:
Why would Trump try to stop this?

[image loading]


Welp, this is completely and totally amazing.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 24 2016 19:46 GMT
#69017
On March 25 2016 04:29 DickMcFanny wrote:
Why would Trump try to stop this?

[image loading]


Clearly a member of the known radical organization Ollie Qaeda.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 24 2016 20:00 GMT
#69018
Atlantic City is wondering when its losing streak will finally end.

The mayor says his town, known for its huge casinos on the boardwalk, will run out of money in a few weeks. State lawmakers have a plan to get the city's finances under control. Atlantic City leaders don't like the state's takeover plan. But residents are hoping for anything that will change their luck.

"A lot of people are walking away from their homes," says Al Bailey, a local real estate agent who was born and raised in Atlantic City.

"We have an old saying: We got sand in our shoes," says Bailey, meaning he has no plans to leave this faded beachside resort town. But he knows plenty of people who can't afford to stay.

"Just getting and leaving," Bailey says. "They just can't make ends meet."

Last year, the Atlantic City area had the highest foreclosure rate in the country, according to RealtyTrac. That's partly because of lost casino jobs. And it's partly because of rising property taxes. That's been hard on people like 86-year-old William Cheatham, who used to own a house on North Maryland Avenue.

"We had been there for 50 years," Cheatham says. "The taxes just got to begin to get too high for us. We was on a limited income. We was just taxed out of our home, basically."

"The big problem is the continuing decline in the casino industry," says Oliver Cooke, associate professor of economics at Stockton University. "Now I think that has spiraled into a housing crisis. And of course, the fiscal crisis that the actual city of Atlantic City currently faces."

The casinos used to account for much of Atlantic City's tax revenue. But four of the city's casinos closed, leaving only eight in business. Two-thirds of the city's tax base has disappeared since 2010. To make up for the shortfall, Atlantic City raised taxes on its residents, by a lot. But the city is still coming up short.


Source
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 24 2016 20:22 GMT
#69019
They could, you know, stop treating AC as a piggybank for the local governments and Trenton. That would be a good start.
Freeeeeeedom
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 20:37:57
March 24 2016 20:37 GMT
#69020
http://www.anonews.co/hillary-clintons-election-fraud-exposed/

She stole Iowa, Nevada and Massachusetts – but Arizona is Hillary Clinton’s election fraud masterpiece.

Desperate to prevent another “Michigan upset”, Hillary found an ingenious way to guarantee victory in Arizona.


Completely insane. GOP governor cut funding for polling sites? FUCKING SHILLARY!! The shit I have to look at being liked on Facebook. holy cow. For those of you annoyed by Bernie stuff on FB, be glad you're not from the pacific northwest. It's complete chaos over here.
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