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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
February 14 2016 02:41 GMT
#58361
On February 14 2016 11:37 xDaunt wrote:
I don't like Trump harping on 9/11.


Of course not, Republicans spent years spinning that lie. Suddenly his "straight talk" isn't so liked when it matches up with reality.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 14 2016 02:42 GMT
#58362
On February 14 2016 11:41 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

The article you linked is from 1987.....


We were talking about when he was nominated. I'm confused. I believe the moderator said Kennedy was nominated in 88, which is wrong.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
February 14 2016 02:42 GMT
#58363
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

Your link says nov 87 as well for the nomination.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
February 14 2016 02:43 GMT
#58364
On February 14 2016 11:42 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:41 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

The article you linked is from 1987.....


We were talking about when he was nominated. I'm confused. I believe the moderator said Kennedy was nominated in 88, which is wrong.

He was nominated for ninth circuit in 75. Was nominated for supreme court in nov 87 and took office in feb 88
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 02:44:54
February 14 2016 02:44 GMT
#58365
On February 14 2016 11:42 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

Your link says nov 87 as well for the nomination.



OHHH, you guys took a typo and ran with it. I meant 87. Obviously Reagan wasn't president in 77. lmao.

I'll fix them right now lol.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 14 2016 02:44 GMT
#58366
I love how Trump doesn't get away with his crap in this debate. How often does he want to repeat that he's a great businessman lol
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 14 2016 02:46 GMT
#58367
On February 14 2016 11:44 Nyxisto wrote:
I love how Trump doesn't get away with his crap in this debate. How often does he want to repeat that he's a great businessman lol


Many of Trumps supporters literally don't care that his numbers never add up or that half of the words out of his mouth are half truths or flat out lies, or that his plans are illegal/nonsensical.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 14 2016 02:46 GMT
#58368
On February 14 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:42 Jormundr wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

Your link says nov 87 as well for the nomination.



OHHH, you guys took a typo and ran with it. I meant 87. Obviously Reagan wasn't president in 77. lmao.

Yes, that was 5 months before the primary. His comfimation took place during an election year. Cruz was wrong because he said it has never happened. People looked it up and it's happened like 16 to times.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
February 14 2016 02:47 GMT
#58369
On February 14 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:42 Jormundr wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

Your link says nov 87 as well for the nomination.



OHHH, you guys took a typo and ran with it. I meant 87. Obviously Reagan wasn't president in 77. lmao.

Yes, that was 5 months before the primary. His comfimation took place during an election year. Cruz was wrong because he said it has never happened. People looked it up and it's happened like 16 to times.


It happens when you try to reference previous election years without accounting for how the process has changed over the years.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 14 2016 02:49 GMT
#58370
On February 14 2016 11:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:42 Jormundr wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

Your link says nov 87 as well for the nomination.



OHHH, you guys took a typo and ran with it. I meant 87. Obviously Reagan wasn't president in 77. lmao.

Yes, that was 5 months before the primary. His comfimation took place during an election year. Cruz was wrong because he said it has never happened. People looked it up and it's happened like 16 to times.


It happens when you try to reference previous election years without accounting for how the process has changed over the years.

It's was shorter back then. Less of this death march.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 02:52:31
February 14 2016 02:51 GMT
#58371
i think i underestimated kasich, he's gonna be able to hang on longer than i thought

i hate bush's outfit. his collar looks awful.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 14 2016 02:54 GMT
#58372
On February 14 2016 11:46 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:44 Nyxisto wrote:
I love how Trump doesn't get away with his crap in this debate. How often does he want to repeat that he's a great businessman lol


Many of Trumps supporters literally don't care that his numbers never add up or that half of the words out of his mouth are half truths or flat out lies, or that his plans are illegal/nonsensical.


"How do you try to save social security and explain the huge gap in your tax plan?"
"China; Vietnam; Mexico; America; Great; Jerbs"

It's literally just noise with those words thrown in in varying order
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 14 2016 02:55 GMT
#58373
On February 14 2016 11:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 11:44 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:42 Jormundr wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:37 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:35 Plansix wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:30 Introvert wrote:
On February 14 2016 11:27 Plansix wrote:
The crowd literally booed when the moderator correct Cruz. No facts needed, only pandering.


Except I believe Cruz was right. Kennedy was nominated in 77.

Edit: made the same mistake as moderator (kind of). LOL

He was nominated on 87, not 77. His confirmation took place right before primary.


A quick google search says he was nominated in Nov 77. He took his seat in 78.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/12/us/reagan-nominates-anthony-kennedy-to-supreme-court.html?pagewanted=all

Your link says nov 87 as well for the nomination.



OHHH, you guys took a typo and ran with it. I meant 87. Obviously Reagan wasn't president in 77. lmao.

Yes, that was 5 months before the primary. His comfimation took place during an election year. Cruz was wrong because he said it has never happened. People looked it up and it's happened like 16 to times.


I don't know about the 16 others but you are right about Kennedy's confirmation.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 14 2016 02:56 GMT
#58374
Florida also is one of the leaders in batshit crazy shit that the rest of the country laughs at.
Never Knows Best.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 14 2016 02:57 GMT
#58375
"shut up ben we have commercials to air"

lol
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 14 2016 02:58 GMT
#58376
It's already an hour in? This thing is so crazy.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
February 14 2016 03:00 GMT
#58377
Anyone confused by Bush's anti wall street talk allow me to give a brief explanation.

Bush is old O&G money, they don't get along with wall street money, something about being resentful of how they don't actually have to create real products. O&G invests heavily in local governments (they have to because they make most of the decisions about what they can and can't do to make money) so they want the decisions made there.

Basically, Wall street only needing to buy NY and the Feds is outperforming O&G despite nearly collapsing their own industry. What you see happening is different billionaire puppets arguing over who's billionaire should get a better deal.

it's remarkably naked right now.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 14 2016 03:00 GMT
#58378
Did Carson just say "tax the poor" and the audience applauded?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 14 2016 03:03 GMT
#58379
Trump is literally just getting away with saying the same 5 things with maybe 1 new debate specific thing.
Never Knows Best.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
February 14 2016 03:06 GMT
#58380
I dislike blatant question dodging.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
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