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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
January 29 2016 02:52 GMT
#56021
Well we know Cruz has no plan to help people with pre-existing conditions and want's millions to only have catastrophic insurance that would be useless for treating most common issues.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 02:57:26
January 29 2016 02:54 GMT
#56022
I don't like Trump, but I think as a general rule, it's rather unfair to hold a candidate accountable for people endorsing them when they weren't actively seeking that crowd. And that's simply because it is impossible to control that endorsement- you can insult the one giving the endorsement, you can repudiate the person who endorsed you, but you can't force them to take back the endorsement because the other person freely gave it outside of your control. That's a hard standard: holding candidates accountable to everyone that decides to endorse them.

That said, it seems clear to me that as the white supremacists are often concerned about the destruction of white culture and the low birth rate of white people, then a candidate is very appealing that is advocating a ban on immigration from people of a religion that tends to have a lot of brown people. So to, building big walls to prevent more brown people from sneaking in. But that's also where you get the Venn diagram overlap between different interest groups. I suspect Trump's policies have the biggest overlap in the Venn diagram.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 29 2016 02:55 GMT
#56023
On January 29 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Well we know Cruz has no plan to help people with pre-existing conditions and want's millions to only have catastrophic insurance that would be useless for treating most common issues.

Then stop calling it insurance and call it what it is: Free healthcare using government mandates to obfuscate taxes.
Freeeeeeedom
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:00:59
January 29 2016 02:59 GMT
#56024
Cruz is getting nailed by the moderator over immigration. Literally everyone hates him, I guess.

....and he ducks.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
January 29 2016 03:00 GMT
#56025
He's the front runner on the stage, standard fare.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:02:52
January 29 2016 03:02 GMT
#56026
On January 29 2016 11:55 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Well we know Cruz has no plan to help people with pre-existing conditions and want's millions to only have catastrophic insurance that would be useless for treating most common issues.

Then stop calling it insurance and call it what it is: Free healthcare using government mandates to obfuscate taxes.

I'm pretty sure free health care is tantamount to murdering people and genocide. I mean, there's that mandate and we know that if you're not willing to kill somebody for not following a law, paying a fine, or paying taxes, then it's not a real law. I'm sure historians will look back on Obamacare and rename it "Obamagenocide."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
January 29 2016 03:03 GMT
#56027
Why can't politicians admit that they either made a mistake, or that with changing time their opinion changed? They seem pathological in insisting that when they said A and then not A a bit later that they are not contradictions.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:04:28
January 29 2016 03:04 GMT
#56028
Why is the moderator so angry, she's scaring me and I'm not even on the stage.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
January 29 2016 03:08 GMT
#56029
I'm consistently surprised how many smart people don't understand this poison pill idea. Is this not a tactic people have seen in their own lives? Have parents not done this to their children? Pretty amazing.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 29 2016 03:08 GMT
#56030
On January 29 2016 12:04 acker wrote:
Why is the moderator so angry, she's scaring me and I'm not even on the stage.

Because they are weak and she senses weakness.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 29 2016 03:10 GMT
#56031
That was pretty good from Christie, strangely enough.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:12:32
January 29 2016 03:11 GMT
#56032
On January 29 2016 12:10 acker wrote:
That was pretty good from Christie, strangely enough.


Should help him in NH this is not going well for Cruz or Rubio though.

How did that turn into an answer about terrorism?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
January 29 2016 03:12 GMT
#56033
I like dulce candy. I don't have a clue what she said, though. Carson and I were both mesmerized by her eyes and slight lisp, because he also has no idea what she said.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 29 2016 03:13 GMT
#56034
On January 29 2016 12:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:10 acker wrote:
That was pretty good from Christie, strangely enough.


Should help him in NH this is not going well for Cruz or Rubio though.

How did that turn into an answer about terrorism?

Ben Carson
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5583 Posts
January 29 2016 03:14 GMT
#56035
On January 29 2016 12:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:10 acker wrote:
That was pretty good from Christie, strangely enough.


Should help him in NH this is not going well for Cruz or Rubio though.

How did that turn into an answer about terrorism?

Do you mean the one when Rubio was talking about amnesty, or the one when Carson was talking about immigration?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 29 2016 03:14 GMT
#56036
On January 29 2016 12:12 Acrofales wrote:
I like dulce candy. I don't have a clue what she said, though. Carson and I were both mesmerized by her eyes and slight lisp, because he also has no idea what she said.

Can politifact fact check that name?
Freeeeeeedom
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
January 29 2016 03:17 GMT
#56037
I trust Bush 100% when he says he has no control at all over his super PAC. Yup. Totally.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:18:45
January 29 2016 03:17 GMT
#56038
Pretty sure if "Not Hillary" was an option it would win the nomination and possibly the general.

On January 29 2016 12:17 Acrofales wrote:
I trust Bush 100% when he says he has no control at all over his super PAC. Yup. Totally.

That was pretty pathetic.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 03:19:31
January 29 2016 03:18 GMT
#56039
Jesus, emails, Benghazi!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2016 03:20 GMT
#56040
That sound you heard was Rubio's campaign imploding...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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