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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
March 05 2015 06:23 GMT
#33961
Those are fun tests.
I did the Age one "Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between Young and Old."
For the Race one: "Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Black people compared to White people."

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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 07:08:44
March 05 2015 07:00 GMT
#33962
On March 05 2015 15:23 Falling wrote:
Those are fun tests.
I did the Age one "Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between Young and Old."
For the Race one: "Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Black people compared to White people."



Thanks for taking some and posting your results. Did either of them surprise you?



Another step toward rational cannabis laws.

On Monday, Representative David Simpson of Longview filed House Bill 2165, in favor of removing the prohibition of marijuana in the state of Texas. Simpson says marijuana should be regulated like tomatoes and jalapenos, among other comments.

The information released by Simpson's office is as follows:

Today Representative David Simpson (R-Longview) filed House Bill 2165 to strike all references to marijuana offenses from the Texas statutes. This represents a comprehensive repeal of marijuana prohibition in Texas.

“We can't fix all of the past wrongs caused by prohibition, but at least we can stop perpetuating them,” said Representative Simpson.

This is perhaps the first bill of its kind in the nation that proposes to simply undo prohibition and avoid the big government approach taken in other states that basically re-regulate the plant.

“I am proposing that this plant be regulated like tomatoes, jalapeños or coffee.” Rep. Simpson continued, “Current marijuana policies are not based on science or sound evidence, but rather misinformation and fear. All that God created is good, including marijuana. God did not make a mistake when he made marijuana that the government needs to fix. Let's allow the plant to be utilized for good—helping people with seizures, treating warriors with PTSD, producing fiber and other products—or simply for beauty and enjoyment. Government prohibition should be for violent actions that harm your neighbor—not of the possession, cultivation, and responsible use of plants.”


Source

I won't look a gift horse in the mouth. That's a Texas-R
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 07:36:50
March 05 2015 07:34 GMT
#33963
"Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American."

I feel like playing StarCraft for a long time prepared me for this kind of game of choosing the correct button response.

EDIT: Oh, I think I did a different test. The link did bug out on me a little.

But I got the same result:

"Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between Black people compared to White people."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 05 2015 12:39 GMT
#33964
On March 05 2015 11:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 10:51 zlefin wrote:
I'm going to sleep soon, so not really, I was expressing support for jonny, and don't want to get into an explanation jonny himself has done, and can do, better.



I'm skeptical that it should of taken you much more time to quickly sum up the point and the relevance than to write that post but I'll take your word for it I guess.


I find your behavior rude, continually badgering someone who's not a main party to the argument.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 05 2015 12:43 GMT
#33965
On March 05 2015 21:39 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 11:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 05 2015 10:51 zlefin wrote:
I'm going to sleep soon, so not really, I was expressing support for jonny, and don't want to get into an explanation jonny himself has done, and can do, better.



I'm skeptical that it should of taken you much more time to quickly sum up the point and the relevance than to write that post but I'll take your word for it I guess.


I find your behavior rude, continually badgering someone who's not a main party to the argument.

I don't find his behavior rude. All he's doing is asking you to clarify a point after you joined the argument by expressing your support for Johnny.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 12:51:49
March 05 2015 12:51 GMT
#33966
There's poetic justice in the fact that a self-proclaimed fan of Jonny refuses to explain why he agrees or how. It makes perfect sense
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 05 2015 12:59 GMT
#33967
On March 05 2015 21:43 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 21:39 zlefin wrote:
On March 05 2015 11:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 05 2015 10:51 zlefin wrote:
I'm going to sleep soon, so not really, I was expressing support for jonny, and don't want to get into an explanation jonny himself has done, and can do, better.



I'm skeptical that it should of taken you much more time to quickly sum up the point and the relevance than to write that post but I'll take your word for it I guess.


I find your behavior rude, continually badgering someone who's not a main party to the argument.

I don't find his behavior rude. All he's doing is asking you to clarify a point after you joined the argument by expressing your support for Johnny.

If he doesn't understand jonny's arguments, he should ask jonny, instead of badgering someone else.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 13:13:21
March 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#33968
On March 05 2015 21:59 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 21:43 kwizach wrote:
On March 05 2015 21:39 zlefin wrote:
On March 05 2015 11:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 05 2015 10:51 zlefin wrote:
I'm going to sleep soon, so not really, I was expressing support for jonny, and don't want to get into an explanation jonny himself has done, and can do, better.



I'm skeptical that it should of taken you much more time to quickly sum up the point and the relevance than to write that post but I'll take your word for it I guess.


I find your behavior rude, continually badgering someone who's not a main party to the argument.

I don't find his behavior rude. All he's doing is asking you to clarify a point after you joined the argument by expressing your support for Johnny.

If he doesn't understand jonny's arguments, he should ask jonny, instead of badgering someone else.

You and GH have differing positions on the clarity of Jonny's point. Since you have explicitly declared that you disagreed with GH on that, he's asking you what your understanding of Jonny's point is. It's pretty straightforward, really, and not rude in the slightest - especially since he took the time to explain to you thoroughly on the previous page what he thinks the issue is with Jonny's argument.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17979 Posts
March 05 2015 13:17 GMT
#33969
Yeah, so I am a racist young supremacist!

Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for Young compared to Old.
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for White people compared to Black people.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
March 05 2015 13:25 GMT
#33970
Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for Black people compared to White people.


lol, I guess this makes a certain sort of sense.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 05 2015 13:35 GMT
#33971
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for White people compared to Black people.


oh no

idk how accurate this is since i'm watching dream destroy life while doing this
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 13:58:57
March 05 2015 13:57 GMT
#33972
If anyone is interested there was a great story done by This American Life on the topic of police and race.

Part 1
EDIT:
There are so many cops who look at the killing of Eric Garner or Mike Brown and say race didn't play a factor. And there are tons of black people who say that's insane. There's a division between people who distrust the police — even fear them — and people who see cops as a force for good. Stories of people living on both sides of that divide, and people trying to bridge it.

Part 2
EDIT:
Our second hour of stories about policing and race. We hear about one city where relations between police and black residents went terribly, and another city where they seem to be improving remarkably. And one of our producers asks: Why aren't police chiefs talking about race after incidents where unarmed black men are wrongly killed by officers?

Be warned they are 2 separate 1 hour audio reports in case you are unfamiliar with the format.

EDIT: included synopsis
I am, therefore I pee
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
March 05 2015 15:13 GMT
#33973
Moderate for white, Moderate for straight.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 16:27:36
March 05 2015 16:26 GMT
#33974
strong preference for whites, strong preference for homosexuals.. well shit I'm going to have trouble finding an organisation for that
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10696 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 16:37:56
March 05 2015 16:31 GMT
#33975
On March 05 2015 22:17 Acrofales wrote:
Yeah, so I am a racist young supremacist!

Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for Young compared to Old.
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for White people compared to Black people.


Same here.

For people whiteout much contact with black people. This test is most likely completly useless. How should I ever have learned to "read" these faces? My whole experience when it comes to black people is being robbed (by force) twice while i was in france...
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 16:52:43
March 05 2015 16:35 GMT
#33976
I'm pretty sure I screwed up the 2nd one:
slight preference for black people
strong preference for straight people

So I did the 2nd one and went through it "yaya, I already know this shit, don't need to read just gogo". Literally got like 3 red X in a row, even with just one word on each side... like I'd press hetero when I see the sign with 2 guys on it. When the first thing with 2 words on each side started I didn't even know what was on what side... I literally had to look up in the corners to read up what was on what side, every time. So when I was told to redo that but with new groups I was like "okay this time I'll stare at the groups for 60 seconds and get that in my head!!!" and owned the crap out of it. That seems to make it swing one way

I'll try that one more time
Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Straight People compared to Gay People.

turns out forgetting about the idiot tests before the actual test is bad as well. But seriously, what's with the "how warm do you feel towards other people?" ..... uuuuum I guess 5 for everyone except like 6 or 7 towards straight females because, duh straight myself? I don't even know what they want to know with that lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11819 Posts
March 05 2015 17:17 GMT
#33977
I think the worst part of the racial test is that you have to learn that a certain emotion or state is good or bad. I got an error on the first one when I chose evil is good. I then selected that three times in a row before realising that you needed to memorize the list at the start since they assigned values there.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
March 05 2015 17:28 GMT
#33978
On March 06 2015 02:17 Yurie wrote:
I I got an error on the first one when I chose evil is good

are... are you a supervillian?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 05 2015 17:30 GMT
#33979
On March 06 2015 02:28 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 02:17 Yurie wrote:
I I got an error on the first one when I chose evil is good

are... are you a supervillian?


That, or he's a programmer.
Yargh
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 05 2015 17:58 GMT
#33980
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for White people compared to Black people.


O noes, a Harvard test told me I'm racist. I wonder how they calibrate the test, like do I fall in the 90th percentile or what?
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