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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-20 02:26:39
October 20 2005 00:33 GMT
#1
I'm reading Poe at the moment, and I can't find what these sentences mean:

Dicebant mihi sodales, si sepulchrum amicae visitarem,
curas meas aliquantulum fore levatas.

= My companions told me, if I would visit my friend's grave, it might alleviate my worries a bit.

Sub conservatione formae specificae salva anima.

= the soul is saved through preservation of a specific form

agressi sunt mare tenebrarum, quid in eo esset exploraturi.

=They ventured into the sea of darkness, to explore what it might contain.

Mortuus est Dei filius; credibile est quia ineptum est; et sepultus resurrexit; et sepultus resurrexit; certum est quia impossible est.

It'd be nice if someone could translate it.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Socke
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany451 Posts
October 20 2005 00:39 GMT
#2
sie sagten mir .. , wenn die freundinnen besuchen, werden meine sorgen gelöst sein.




unter unter besonderer aufbewahrung (irgendwas positives) das herz




übelst falsch, aber egal, musste mal wieder latein amchen ;D
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-20 00:45:45
October 20 2005 00:43 GMT
#3
I think "salva anima"="save the soul"

And my idea of the first one is
"They said I were ..., if I visited my friend's grave, ..."
This is my truth, tell me yours!
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
October 20 2005 00:45 GMT
#4
geh mal lieber wieder zu giga socke
jeremy clarkson = god
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
October 20 2005 01:28 GMT
#5
first sentence means something like

My companions told me, if I would visit my friend's grave, it might alleviate my worries a bit.

might not be entirely correct, my latin is a tad rusty and I used some crappy online dictionary to figure some of the words I didn't know out.. He's talking about a female friend by the way ("amica"), maybe a mistress..

Not really sure about the second sentence, something like "the soul is saved through preservation of a specific form", I could be way off here though.
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distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
October 20 2005 02:01 GMT
#6
thx cow! that makes sense.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
October 20 2005 02:10 GMT
#7
agressi sunt mare tenebrarum, quid in eo esset exploraturi.

They ventured into the sea of darkness, to explore what it might contain.
Capt. Moroni
Profile Joined December 2003
United States533 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-20 02:19:43
October 20 2005 02:14 GMT
#8
Dicebant mihi sodales, si sepulchrum amicae visitarem,
curas meas aliquantulum fore levatas.
Sub conservatione formae specificae salva anima.
agressi sunt mare tenebrarum, quid in eo esset exploraturi.

(My) friends told me, if I should visit my friend's tomb
my cares/concerns would be alleviated a bit.
(My) soul is safe under the preservation of a certain beauty.
They entered (in) the sea of shadows/darkness, about to explore what might be in it.

Hope this helps.
Oderint dum metuant
Capt. Moroni
Profile Joined December 2003
United States533 Posts
October 20 2005 02:18 GMT
#9
On October 20 2005 09:43 distant_voice wrote:
I think "salva anima"="save the soul"

And my idea of the first one is
"They said I were ..., if I visited my friend's grave, ..."


Salvere is to save. The imperative form is salve, for "save the soul" as a command. Salva is feminine, singular, nominative, the same as anima here. So it's saying that the anima is salva, the soul is safe.
Oderint dum metuant
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
October 20 2005 02:19 GMT
#10
thx to all.

@capt.moroni, are you sure about the beauty part? It'd make sense, but where is it in the latin sentence? formae != beauty afaik...
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Capt. Moroni
Profile Joined December 2003
United States533 Posts
October 20 2005 02:21 GMT
#11
Yeah, forma means form, shape, and beauty. It was mentioned that Poe was talking about a woman, so I thought he meant beauty, but the others could work also.
Oderint dum metuant
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
October 20 2005 02:27 GMT
#12
awesome. I found another one:

Mortuus est Dei filius; credibile est quia ineptum est; et sepultus resurrexit; et sepultus resurrexit; certum est quia impossible est.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Capt. Moroni
Profile Joined December 2003
United States533 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-10-20 02:37:09
October 20 2005 02:36 GMT
#13
The son of God has died; it is believable that he is inept; and buried he rose again; and buried he rose again; it is certain that it is impossible.

Wow Poe actually wrote that...
Oderint dum metuant
Capt. Moroni
Profile Joined December 2003
United States533 Posts
October 20 2005 02:38 GMT
#14
Oh nm, he quoted Tertullian there
Oderint dum metuant
UT-atma
Profile Joined October 2005
54 Posts
October 20 2005 18:33 GMT
#15
On October 20 2005 11:36 Capt. Moroni wrote:
The son of God has died; it is believable that he is inept; and buried he rose again; and buried he rose again; it is certain that it is impossible.

Wow Poe actually wrote that...


".. certum est quia impossible est."

Tertullian is saying: "... it is certain because it is impossible."
mirajade
Profile Joined July 2013
United States1 Post
July 22 2013 07:31 GMT
#16
I found this at http://www.eapoe.org/works/tales/bernicee.htm

Poe’s translation for the motto, “Dicebant mihi sodales si sepulchrum amicae visitarem, curas meas aliquantulum fore levatas,” quoted again in the text above, was printed only in the first version. There, Poe gave it as, “My companions told me I might find some little alleviation of my misery, in visiting the grave of my beloved.”

In case anyone was still wondering or comes across this page like I did and was still curious. You can also read thd story at that link.
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